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      schrieb am 12.11.07 15:58:57
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.394.253 von aloevera2750 am 12.11.07 15:45:00wow was für ein rasanter und fulliminanter auftakt :D
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      schrieb am 12.11.07 16:00:48
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      aber nochmal neue News:eek::eek:

      GS Energy Releases Summary Impact of Restructuring
      11/12/2007

      NEW YORK, Nov 12, 2007 (BUSINESS WIRE) --
      Kevin Kreisler, chairman and chief executive officer of GreenShift Corporation, issued a letter to the shareholders of GreenShift and its subsidiaries on November 9, 2007 that provided an update on GreenShift's restructuring and recent growth.

      This announcement is to provide an outline of the specific impact of the steps taken to accelerate the completion of GreenShift's restructuring on the shareholders of GS ENERGY CORPORATION (OTC Bulletin Board: GSEG).

      Additional detailed background and other information pertaining to the disclosures that follow are provided in GreenShift's November 9, 2007 shareholder letter, which was filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission on a Form 8K by GreenShift and its subsidiaries and will be available on the SEC's EDGAR website the morning of November 13, 2007. The letter is currently available on GreenShift's website at www.greenshift.com.

      IMPACT ON GS ENERGY SHAREHOLDERS

      -- Cancellation of Pending Merger

      The previously announced GS AgriFuels - GS Energy merger was canceled as of November 9, 2007.

      -- Transfer of GS Energy to GS CleanTech

      On November 9, 2007, GreenShift transferred its 80% stake in GS Energy to GreenShift's 80% owned GS CleanTech. GreenShift received no consideration in return for this transfer to GS CleanTech.

      -- Transfer of Bioreactor Technology and Assets and Contracts to GS Energy

      On November 9, 2007, GS CleanTech transferred its bioreactor technologies and its 10% stake in Sterling Planet, Inc., to GS Energy in return for an additional 5% of GS Energy.

      -- Distribution of GS Energy Shares to GreenShift Shareholders

      GreenShift will distribute 1,000,000,000 shares of common stock in GS Energy to the minority shareholders of GreenShift as soon as possible but in any event within the next 45-60 days. This distribution can be expected to increase the amount of shareholders holding GS Energy common stock and to enhance GS Energy's liquidity.

      -- Design and Manufacturing

      GS Energy's Warnecke Design Services ("WDS") subsidiary is a specialty manufacturing company that provides custom equipment manufacturing services for its clients including machine design, machine building, control system electronics and programming, and installation and maintenance support services. WDS currently services clients in the biofuels, automotive, electronics, lighting, plastics, rubber and food products industries and provides all of the custom equipment manufacturing needs of GreenShift.

      This operation has played, and will continue to play, a critical role in the prototyping and fabrication of GreenShift's technologies. We plan to invest in the growth of this group's third party business while adding to its capability to support our ongoing development of technology. GS Energy's revenues for the nine months ended September 30, 2007 were about $4,570,000.

      -- Bioreactor Technology

      This patented bioreactor technology was developed at Ohio University's Ohio Coal Research Center with funding from the U.S. Department of Energy. The bioreactor uses algae to consume exhaust carbon dioxide emissions, sunlight and water to grow new algae, giving off pure oxygen and water vapor in the process. If properly cultivated, the algae doubles in mass daily and are harvested for conversion into clean fuels as they grow to maturity. The resultant algal biomass can either be routed for biodiesel production (for high fat strains) or gasification (for either high starch or high cellulose strains).

      Just as GS AgriFuels is GreenShift's platform company for its fat and oil extraction, biodiesel and gasification technologies, GS Energy is now GreenShift's platform company for the development of commercially viable bioreactor technology.

      While additional disclosures on GS Energy's plans here will be provided over the coming weeks and months, two key goals involving this technology are for GS Energy to have its pilot bioreactor operational during Q2 2008 and for GS Energy to raise the funds required to further refine its bioreactor technologies to construct a commercial scale bioreactor facility within two years.

      GS Energy's early-stage commercialization plan for this technology involves the synergistic, balanced integration of targeted chemical, mechanical and biological processes with selected ethanol facilities that are host to GS AgriFuels' oil extraction, biodiesel and gasification technologies.

      -- Sterling Planet

      Sterling Planet, Inc. has established a strong reputation as the premier market maker for renewable energy certificates. Sterling has sold over 4 billion kilowatt hours of renewable energy certificates since its inception. The energy underlying those certificates represents enough energy to power 350,000 homes for a full year and offset 2.6 million tons of carbon dioxide. Sterling Planet currently services an impressive array of clients including Alcoa, The Coca-Cola Company, DuPont, Delphi Corporation, Duke University, University of Utah, Nike, Pitney Bowes, U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, the U.S. General Services Administration, the Homeland Security Department, Western Area Power Administration, New York State Energy Research and Development Authority (NYSERDA), the U.S. Army, Staples, Whirlpool Corporation, the World Resources Institute and over 150 other companies.

      Note that specific current financial data and other relevant disclosures for each of GS CleanTech, GS AgriFuels, GS EnviroServices and GS Energy are available in each company's periodic securities filings, which can be found online on the SEC website.

      Additional disclosures regarding each of GS CleanTech, GS AgriFuels, GS Energy and GS EnviroServices and the specific impact of GreenShift's restructuring on the shareholders of each company are available on separate shareholder disclosures made by each company today, which additional disclosures are available online at www.greenshift.com.

      About GreenShift Corporation

      GreenShift Corporation develops and supports clean technologies and companies that facilitate the efficient use of natural resources. GreenShift's ambition is to catalyze the rapid realization of disruptive environmental gains by creating valuable opportunities for a great many people and companies to use resources more efficiently and to be more profitable. Additional information on GreenShift is available online at www.greenshift.com.

      GreenShift currently owns 80% of GS CleanTech Corporation, which company now holds majority stakes in each of GS AgriFuels Corporation, GS Energy Corporation and GS EnviroServices, Inc.

      Safe Harbor Statement

      This press release contains statements that may constitute "forward-looking statements" within the meaning of the Securities Act of 1933 and the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended by the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Those statements include statements regarding the intent, belief or current expectations of GreenShift Corporation, GS CleanTech Corporation, GS AgriFuels Corporation, GS Energy Corporation and GS EnviroServices, Inc., and members of their management as well as the assumptions on which such statements are based. Prospective investors are cautioned that any such forward-looking statements are not guarantees of future performance and involve risks and uncertainties, and that actual results may differ materially from those contemplated by such forward-looking statements. Important factors currently known to management that could cause actual results to differ materially from those in forward-statements include fluctuation of operating results, the ability to compete successfully and the ability to complete before-mentioned transactions. The company undertakes no obligation to update or revise forward-looking statements to reflect changed assumptions, the occurrence of unanticipated events or changes to future operating results.

      SOURCE: GS Energy Corporation
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      schrieb am 12.11.07 16:04:29
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.394.558 von schrommi am 12.11.07 16:00:48totales chaos... man man man
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      schrieb am 12.11.07 16:20:40
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.394.627 von dahool23 am 12.11.07 16:04:29gsct fällt weiter..
      wenn meine gshf jetzt in wertlose gsct getauscht werden.. dann verklag ich Kevin :D
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      schrieb am 12.11.07 16:25:27
      Beitrag Nr. 8.505 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.394.877 von dahool23 am 12.11.07 16:20:40was geht nun ab:eek::eek::eek::eek:

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      schrieb am 12.11.07 16:34:10
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.394.957 von aloevera2750 am 12.11.07 16:25:27usa 0,028
      in ffm bekommt mann noch zu 0,018:eek::eek::eek:
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      schrieb am 12.11.07 16:37:34
      Beitrag Nr. 8.507 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.395.116 von aloevera2750 am 12.11.07 16:34:10:D Bin ja aus Cleantech heute raus um wieder in Greenshift umzusatteln. Danke an die Spender. ;)
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      schrieb am 12.11.07 16:39:32
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.395.166 von long-view-invest am 12.11.07 16:37:34:lick::lick::lick:
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      schrieb am 12.11.07 16:41:03
      Beitrag Nr. 8.509 ()
      ...man seid ihr alle nervös, die news sind das gleiche was wir eh schon wissen, GSCT wird normal gehandelt (ist halt ein bisschen kurz, weil offensichtlich mehrere nicht wissen was ein Reverssplit ist). GSHF ist logischerweise (siehe posting von vorher)
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      schrieb am 12.11.07 16:45:49
      Beitrag Nr. 8.510 ()
      long fehlt noch
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      schrieb am 12.11.07 17:00:06
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.395.302 von gutrix am 12.11.07 16:45:49geht doch gut ab
      :lick::lick::lick::lick:
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      schrieb am 12.11.07 17:04:19
      Beitrag Nr. 8.512 ()
      usa bid 0,03 ask 0,032:lick::lick:
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      schrieb am 12.11.07 17:10:34
      Beitrag Nr. 8.513 ()
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      schrieb am 12.11.07 17:16:47
      Beitrag Nr. 8.514 ()
      ich verstehe die Deutschen nicht, Pari ist doch 22 momentan warum kaufen Sie nicht ?
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      schrieb am 12.11.07 17:18:14
      Beitrag Nr. 8.515 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.395.752 von ania.d am 12.11.07 17:10:340,032 USD=0,022. EUR
      ffm ist ask 0,02:laugh::laugh::laugh:
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      schrieb am 12.11.07 17:19:14
      Beitrag Nr. 8.516 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.395.851 von maverick0279 am 12.11.07 17:16:47und heute morgen über pari zu 0,019 gekaauft:laugh::laugh:
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      schrieb am 12.11.07 17:19:50
      Beitrag Nr. 8.517 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.395.851 von maverick0279 am 12.11.07 17:16:47habe mir 100k zu 18 gegönnt, die ich Heute wieder abstoße :D
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      schrieb am 12.11.07 19:00:11
      Beitrag Nr. 8.518 ()
      :lick::lick:
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      schrieb am 12.11.07 19:23:28
      Beitrag Nr. 8.519 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.395.903 von maverick0279 am 12.11.07 17:19:50kann einer mal ffm wecken :D:D:D
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      schrieb am 12.11.07 21:48:31
      Beitrag Nr. 8.520 ()
      Tja, so allzuviel war heute gar nicht los am Ende, der Kurs nähernt sich gegenüber GSCT nur dem 1:5 Verhältnis an. Ich denke aber, dass die shareholderletter alles in allem positiv aufgenommen wurde, sonst wäre alles nach unten gerauscht. Da ist jetzt wieder ein wenig Zukunftsmusik drinnen.

      Dass Seaway demnächst GSCT übernimmt, wie bei Ihub im Seaway-Thread spekuliert wird (poster: crooked) halte ich übrigens gar nicht für so unwahrscheinlich. Das wäre vielleicht auch die Möglichkeit, um aus dem ganzen Finanzierungsschlamassel rauszukommen.

      So ruhig geblieben ist es wohl auch, weil man KK nicht mehr so recht über den Weg traut. Die in Aussicht gestellten Zahlen müssen die Anleger jetzt erst einmal schwarz-weiß vorgelegt bekommen, um Vertrauen zu gewinnen.
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      schrieb am 12.11.07 22:03:46
      Beitrag Nr. 8.521 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.399.623 von weissnichtbescheid am 12.11.07 21:48:31SK ist auch oki
      0,031;);)
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      schrieb am 13.11.07 06:58:06
      Beitrag Nr. 8.522 ()
      Guten morgen zusammen
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      schrieb am 13.11.07 08:47:59
      Beitrag Nr. 8.523 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.401.578 von joergstgt am 13.11.07 06:58:06Moin:):):)
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      schrieb am 13.11.07 09:17:12
      Beitrag Nr. 8.524 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.401.578 von joergstgt am 13.11.07 06:58:060,031 USD = 0,021EUR;);)
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      schrieb am 13.11.07 09:25:15
      Beitrag Nr. 8.525 ()
      GSCT 0,007 * 5 = 0,035 USD
      GSCT 0,005 * 5 = 0,025 EUR

      Aber es gibt ja noch mehr Aktien dazu.

      GS ENVIROSERVICES, INC hats gefreut... -30,91 % :rolleyes:

      Was sind eigentlich die 5 GS Energy Aktien wert?
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      schrieb am 13.11.07 09:46:06
      Beitrag Nr. 8.526 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.402.280 von aloevera2750 am 13.11.07 09:17:12SK war ja 0,032:D:D:D
      € 0,0219:D:D
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      schrieb am 13.11.07 09:48:54
      Beitrag Nr. 8.527 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.402.413 von long-view-invest am 13.11.07 09:25:15würd ich auch gern ma wissen..
      kann nix zu diesem wert finden..
      werden die grad neu zusammengeschustert???
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      schrieb am 13.11.07 10:04:59
      Beitrag Nr. 8.528 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.402.413 von long-view-invest am 13.11.07 09:25:15http://aktien.wallstreet-online.de/180953.html
      :confused::confused::confused::confused:
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      schrieb am 13.11.07 10:48:52
      Beitrag Nr. 8.529 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.403.051 von aloevera2750 am 13.11.07 10:04:59(GSCT 0,007 * 5 = 0,035 USD)
      +
      (5 GS Energy * 0,0007 = 0,0035 USD)
      +
      (1/100 GSEN * 0,075 = 0,00075 USD)
      =
      Greenshift = 0,03925 USD

      In Euro wären das dann: 0,0269 Euro

      :D:laugh::D...aber die deutschen Deppen verkaufen mal wieder unter Wert. :rolleyes:
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      schrieb am 13.11.07 10:53:16
      Beitrag Nr. 8.530 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.403.736 von long-view-invest am 13.11.07 10:48:52der markler pennt doch in ffm
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      schrieb am 13.11.07 13:15:52
      Beitrag Nr. 8.531 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.403.805 von aloevera2750 am 13.11.07 10:53:16hammer das die leute so unter pari schmeißen:laugh::laugh:
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      schrieb am 13.11.07 14:46:34
      Beitrag Nr. 8.532 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.406.431 von aloevera2750 am 13.11.07 13:15:52Da hat wohl jemand "bestens" ausgeführt. Schade das es nicht in Berlin war. ;)

      Glaubst du eworld steigt heut weiter??
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      schrieb am 13.11.07 15:14:54
      Beitrag Nr. 8.533 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.407.799 von long-view-invest am 13.11.07 14:46:34usa sieht doch ganz gut aus :D:D
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      schrieb am 13.11.07 18:12:29
      Beitrag Nr. 8.534 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.408.250 von aloevera2750 am 13.11.07 15:14:54ja wenn man auf sadomaso steht...lol

      man man man.. immer das selbe spiel.
      und schwubs is es auf einma wieda gaaaanzzz still hier
      bis der nächste superschwachsinn ausgebrütet wird..
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      schrieb am 13.11.07 18:12:32
      Beitrag Nr. 8.535 ()
      nochmal News:

      November 13, 2007 12:10 PM Eastern Time
      GS EnviroServices Announces Second Quarter Profit

      SANDWICH, Mass.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--GS EnviroServices Corporation (OTC Bulletin Board: GSEN) announced a profit for its third quarter of 2007. This is the second reporting quarter for the Company under the symbol GSEN. The Company consists of two operating groups named Enviro-Safe Corporation and Enviro-Safe Corporation (NE). GS EnviroServices has five strategic locations located throughout New England specializing in Environmental Management Services. These services include transportation and disposal of waste materials, consulting and engineering services and a broad range of remedial services.

      Third Quarter revenues were up 14.7% on a year over year basis ($4.0 million versus $3.5 million for the prior year), and pretax profits were $184,591 versus a profit of $96,870 for the prior year. On a nine month year to date basis revenues are up 10.8% ($11.2 million versus $10.1 million), and pretax profits were $459,638 versus a loss of $17,176.

      “We are extremely pleased with our year to date results as revenues and profits are showing strong growth and we expect this trend to continue for the balance of 2007. We anticipate revenue growth for the year to exceed 12% from $14 million to $15.5 million and EBIT growth in excess of 30% from $450,000 to greater than $600,000 on an annualized basis,” noted James Green, President and CEO.

      To date, the Company has added two field services offices this year in Plainville, CT and Smithfield, RI. The Company has also received a license to respond to spills of hazardous materials in the state of CT, and has received a contract from the state to respond to state managed spills. The Company has also received OSRO certification to respond to spills on navigable waters. “We expect significant growth in these areas as we continue to add offices and capabilities to this group,” noted Ross Hartman, Vice President of Remediation Services.

      The Company intended to announce the formation of an additional operating group in the third quarter of 2007. Due to delays resulting from the need for regulatory of approval, this group will be formed in the fourth quarter of 2007. This group will be called Enviro-Energy Corporation and will focus on the recycling and reuse of carbonaceous wastes. This operating group will be involved in managing various carbon bearing by-products for energy utilization and recycling. It is anticipated that a series of joint ventures and acquisitions will be accomplished in the coming months and at a minimum one transaction will be completed in the fourth quarter.
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      schrieb am 13.11.07 18:13:39
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.412.101 von AMDlong am 13.11.07 18:12:32Na schön, von denen hab' ich ja bald ein paar Aktien! ;)
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      schrieb am 13.11.07 18:19:29
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      Press Release Source: GS AgriFuels Corporation


      NextGen Fuel Provides Feedstock Advantage to Biodiesel Developers
      Tuesday November 13, 11:56 am ET
      Qualified NextGen Clients Granted Access to GS CleanTech's Corn Oil Inventories and Other Extraction Processes


      NEW YORK--(BUSINESS WIRE)--NextGen Fuel, Inc., a wholly owned subsidiary of GS AgriFuels Corporation (OTC Bulletin Board: GSGF - News) today announced the expansion of its sales offering to include additional process capabilities and access to low-cost feedstocks that are hedged to the diesel markets.
      ADVERTISEMENT


      Given the realities of the biodiesel markets, a successful biodiesel business plan begins with an effective feedstock strategy from which process design flows. NextGen partners with its clients to assist in the development of their business and to structure NextGen’s offering to ensure its clients’ long term success in the young but rapidly evolving renewable fuels industry. NextGen has systematically assembled the resources necessary to facilitate this and to deliver turn-key business solutions.

      Backwards Integration

      NextGen has the process engineering and operational expertise to design, deploy and commission vegetable oil refining, feedstock treatment and other associated processing equipment necessary to process all known conventional animal fats and vegetable oils in their natively available forms.

      These additional process capabilities include vegetable oil refining, pretreatment water washing, feedstock drying, pre-treatment bleaching, post-treatment winterization, methanol distillation, methyl ester distillation, wastewater recirculation and other custom process equipment. Each process is modular and designed to plug-and-play with NextGen’s patent-pending modular transesterification and direct esterification systems.

      These additional capabilities are designed to help purchasers of NextGen biodiesel production equipment to craft a feedstock acquisition strategy that will stimulate increased cash flows out of their businesses as compared to conventionally refined vegetable oils. The increased capabilities will allow developers to process crude vegetable oils, choice white grease, yellow grease, and waste oils into fuels that meet and exceed ASTM specifications.

      Feedstock Advantage

      NextGen’s affiliated process engineering partner, GS CleanTech Corporation (OTC Bulletin Board: GSCT - News) has developed patent-pending technology to extract fats and oils out of co-product and waste streams of targeted agriproducts facilities.

      NextGen has partnered with GS CleanTech to provide qualified purchasers of NextGen equipment with the opportunity to purchase extracted fats and crude corn oil at rates that help to increase NextGen client cash flows, increase their ability to service debt, and effectively hedge their cash flows to the biodiesel markets.

      -- Crude Corn Oil


      GS CleanTech's patent-pending corn oil extraction system is designed to extract crude corn oil out of the distillers dried grain co-product of the dry mill ethanol production process. This crude corn oil has been proven to be an excellent biodiesel feedstock with the proper processing. GS CleanTech currently has more than 50 million gallons of crude corn oil under contract and expects to continue to increase this volume.
      GS AgriFuels has designed its own biodiesel production facilities to use NextGen technology and selected additional process capability to cost-effectively convert GS CleanTech's crude corn oil into biodiesel. The timing of the development and onset of operations of GS AgriFuels' biodiesel facilities is such that surplus supplies of corn oil are expected to be available as the associated extraction systems are installed.

      Qualified NextGen clients in selected geographies will be granted access to these surplus crude corn oil supplies at an annual rate equal 30% of purchased NextGen biodiesel production capacity for three years at prices that are indexed off of diesel spot and that are set at levels sufficient to service debt and other costs of capital.

      -- Fat Extraction From Dissolved Air Flotation Sludge


      About 100 million pigs, 35 million cattle, 1.6 billion turkeys and 8 billion chickens are slaughtered and processed each year in the United States. The USDA requires facilities that process these meats to use large volumes of clean water to continuously rinse the meats as they are cut and packaged. These large volumes of water contain extremely high levels of protein and fat that are later removed by using conventional but highly efficient wastewater processing methods. The result of these processes is a cleansed wastewater and a concentrated sludge, which is called Dissolved Air Floatation ("DAF") sludge.

      The conventional practice among the more than 500 livestock and poultry processing facilities in the industry is to transport and dispose DAF Sludge through land application. The poultry industry alone produces 2.5 billion pounds or 63,000 tanker loads per year of DAF Sludge. GS CleanTech's DAF Fat Extraction System enables meat and poultry processors to reduce disposal volumes of DAF Sludge by more than 80% by removing fat contained in the DAF Sludge. With proper pretreatment, this fat is a good raw material for the production of biodiesel.

      Qualified NextGen clients in selected geographies have the opportunity to purchase turn-key DAF Fat Extraction Systems which are then installed off-site at facilities that GS CleanTech will help place in return for the long term (10 years or more) right to purchase the fat extracted by the system for a price based on a discount to prevailing diesel fuel prices - and at levels that are substantially lower than the price of conventionally available meat fats.


      NextGen Fuel’s Technological Capabilities

      -- Process Intensified Esterification


      Traditional esterification processes typically require several hours to complete the conversion of qualified vegetable oils and animal fats into biodiesel; we intensify and idealize the conditions under which esterification occurs and we are consequently able to complete the conversion in less than 6 minutes instead of hours under true plug (continuous) flow conditions - at a much smaller scale than traditional processes, and at reduced capital and operating costs as compared to traditional processes.

      With the NextGen technology, fats and oils simply move through the process with no need to linger at any particular stage while a reaction is allowed to complete; targeted fats and oils are reacted as they pass through the system. This has several compelling implications for developers and operators of biodiesel production facilities:

      -- Reduced Equipment and Related Infrastructure Needs - reacting the fats and oils as they move through the system versus at several stops along the away simply reduces the amount of tanks, pumps, controls, pipes, utilities, and square feet of floor space required to produce biodiesel.


      -- Process Time - intensifying the chemical reactions involved in biodiesel production accelerates reaction rates. Increased reaction rates correspond to less time required to complete the process, less equipment to manage raw materials as reactions are completed, and overall less labor and other operating and maintenance expenses.


      -- Greater Native Feedstock Tolerances - standard biodiesel processing will require feedstocks to comply with a range of relevant material specifications - the chemical reactions involved in a conventional process will not produce the desired product quality if feedstocks are out of specification. Intensifying the relevant chemical reactions increases the tolerance of the process to a wider array of feedstocks and enables more liberal material specification requirements.



      These benefits translate to reduced capital and operating expenses and a broader feedstock market for the client and equate to reduced financial, operational and market risk for the client and its stakeholders.

      The modular aspect of the NextGen technology allows developers and their financing sources to incur less financial and operating risk as they initiate production at, for example, a 10 or a 20 million gallon per year production facility, and then leverage their cash flows to scale plant sizes up into their desired markets. An additional 10 million gallon system can simply be plugged into an existing plant with reduced balance of plant costs.

      Most standard technologies, regardless of size, are designed to process a specific feedstock at any given time. The modular aspect of the NextGen systems allows operators to dedicate process lines to specific feedstocks or blends of feedstocks (for example, the first 10 million gallon line would process fat based feeds while the second processes oil based feeds).

      When a standard processing facility needs to be shut-down for maintenance or has a process upset, the operator’s whole business stops. Modularity enables operators to keep their business operating as lines are iteratively shut-down for maintenance or the like. Standardization with a modular process technology also has compelling regulatory permitting and other operating benefits.

      NextGen is able to deliver fully designed and engineered, turn-key biodiesel processing systems at a capital and operational cost advantage.

      -- Operating NextGen Plants


      -- South East Asia: a 5MMgpy system processes crude palm oil with high FFA; this client is developing additional production capacity based on NextGen technology.


      -- Adrian, Michigan: this client has a 40MMgpy production facility, 10 MMgpy of which is currently operating. The feedstock is a rendered animal fat and refined vegetable oil. This client has plans to add crude vegetable oil to their feedstock list.


      -- Middletown, Indiana: this client has a 25MMgpy production facility, 5 MMgpy of which is currently operating. Another 10MMgpy of capacity is scheduled for commissioning in December 2007 and the balance in February 2008. The feedstock is partially rendered pork lard with high FFA. The client plans to open additional facilities within the region.


      -- GS AgriFuels: NextGen's parent company, GS AgriFuels Corporation, is currently developing a 10MMgpy corn oil biodiesel facility co-located at an ethanol plant in Fulton, New York, another at an ethanol plant in Iowa, and a third at another ethanol plant in Indiana. The New York and Iowa plants are being designed to scale up to 20MMgpy and 30MMgpy, respectively, and are scheduled for commissioning in late 2008. All of these facilities are based on NextGen technology.



      About GS AgriFuels Corporation

      GS AgriFuels was founded to produce and sell clean fuels from agriproducts in innovative ways. GS AgriFuels’ business model is based on the manufacturing and sales of proprietary biodiesel equipment and the use of new technologies to produce biodiesel and ethanol from non-traditional feedstocks such as corn oil and cellulosic biomass through the utilization of several new proprietary technologies, including innovative desiccation, process intensification, gasification, and catalytic technologies, synergistically at small-scales to enable the refining of many forms of biomass into clean fuels at Integrated Multi-Fuel (“IMF”) production facilities.

      GS AgriFuels is majority owned by GS CleanTech Corporation (OTC Bulletin Board: GSCT - News). GS CleanTech provides applied engineering and technology transfer services based on clean technologies and process innovations that make it cost-effective and easy to recycle and reuse resources. Additional information on GS CleanTech’s corn oil extraction and other technologies is available online at www.gs-cleantech.com.

      Safe Harbor Statement

      This press release contains statements that may constitute "forward-looking statements" within the meaning of the Securities Act of 1933 and the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended by the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Those statements include statements regarding the intent, belief or current expectations of GreenShift Corporation, GS CleanTech Corporation, GS AgriFuels Corporation, GS Energy Corporation and GS EnviroServices, Inc., and members of their management as well as the assumptions on which such statements are based. Prospective investors are cautioned that any such forward-looking statements are not guarantees of future performance and involve risks and uncertainties, and that actual results may differ materially from those contemplated by such forward-looking statements. Important factors currently known to management that could cause actual results to differ materially from those in forward-statements include fluctuation of operating results, the ability to compete successfully and the ability to complete before-mentioned transactions. The company undertakes no obligation to update or revise forward-looking statements to reflect changed assumptions, the occurrence of unanticipated events or changes to future operating results.



      Contact:
      GreenShift Corporation
      Phone: 212-994-5374
      Fax: 646-572-6336 fax
      Email: investorrelations@greenshift.com
      Web: www.greenshift.com
      or
      Investor Relations:
      CEOcast, Inc.
      Andrew Hellman, 212-732-4300

      --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Source: GS AgriFuels Corporation
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      schrieb am 13.11.07 18:21:02
      Beitrag Nr. 8.538 ()
      Auszug daraus:

      -- Operating NextGen Plants


      -- South East Asia: a 5MMgpy system processes crude palm oil with high FFA; this client is developing additional production capacity based on NextGen technology.


      -- Adrian, Michigan: this client has a 40MMgpy production facility, 10 MMgpy of which is currently operating. The feedstock is a rendered animal fat and refined vegetable oil. This client has plans to add crude vegetable oil to their feedstock list.


      -- Middletown, Indiana: this client has a 25MMgpy production facility, 5 MMgpy of which is currently operating. Another 10MMgpy of capacity is scheduled for commissioning in December 2007 and the balance in February 2008. The feedstock is partially rendered pork lard with high FFA. The client plans to open additional facilities within the region.


      -- GS AgriFuels: NextGen's parent company, GS AgriFuels Corporation, is currently developing a 10MMgpy corn oil biodiesel facility co-located at an ethanol plant in Fulton, New York, another at an ethanol plant in Iowa, and a third at another ethanol plant in Indiana. The New York and Iowa plants are being designed to scale up to 20MMgpy and 30MMgpy, respectively, and are scheduled for commissioning in late 2008. All of these facilities are based on NextGen technology.

      :)
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      schrieb am 13.11.07 18:40:26
      Beitrag Nr. 8.539 ()
      auf den Kurs scheint das ja keinen Einfluß zu haben... :confused:
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      schrieb am 13.11.07 18:42:45
      Beitrag Nr. 8.540 ()
      Ich denke, das sind alles News die eine gute Zukunft verheißen, aber keinen unmittelbar bezifferbaren Erfolg aufzeigen, und um wieder glaubwürdig zu werden, brauchen die Anleger jetzt facts about cash coming in! Es bleibt aber ne gute News!
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      schrieb am 13.11.07 19:11:08
      Beitrag Nr. 8.541 ()
      die bankrotte Bude fliegt ja wie von euch allen vorhergesagt nur so davon gegen Süden:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
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      schrieb am 14.11.07 13:29:54
      Beitrag Nr. 8.542 ()
      News !! :)

      NextGen Fuel Provides Feedstock Advantage to Biodiesel Developers
      Tuesday November 13, 11:56 AM EST

      NEW YORK, Nov 13, 2007 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- NextGen Fuel, Inc., a wholly owned subsidiary of GS AgriFuels Corporation (GSGF) today announced the expansion of its sales offering to include additional process capabilities and access to low-cost feedstocks that are hedged to the diesel markets.

      Given the realities of the biodiesel markets, a successful biodiesel business plan begins with an effective feedstock strategy from which process design flows. NextGen partners with its clients to assist in the development of their business and to structure NextGen's offering to ensure its clients' long term success in the young but rapidly evolving renewable fuels industry. NextGen has systematically assembled the resources necessary to facilitate this and to deliver turn-key business solutions.

      Backwards Integration

      NextGen has the process engineering and operational expertise to design, deploy and commission vegetable oil refining, feedstock treatment and other associated processing equipment necessary to process all known conventional animal fats and vegetable oils in their natively available forms.

      These additional process capabilities include vegetable oil refining, pretreatment water washing, feedstock drying, pre-treatment bleaching, post-treatment winterization, methanol distillation, methyl ester distillation, wastewater recirculation and other custom process equipment. Each process is modular and designed to plug-and-play with NextGen's patent-pending modular transesterification and direct esterification systems.

      These additional capabilities are designed to help purchasers of NextGen biodiesel production equipment to craft a feedstock acquisition strategy that will stimulate increased cash flows out of their businesses as compared to conventionally refined vegetable oils. The increased capabilities will allow developers to process crude vegetable oils, choice white grease, yellow grease, and waste oils into fuels that meet and exceed ASTM specifications.

      Feedstock Advantage

      NextGen's affiliated process engineering partner, GS CleanTech Corporation (OTC Bulletin Board: GSCT) has developed patent-pending technology to extract fats and oils out of co-product and waste streams of targeted agriproducts facilities.

      NextGen has partnered with GS CleanTech to provide qualified purchasers of NextGen equipment with the opportunity to purchase extracted fats and crude corn oil at rates that help to increase NextGen client cash flows, increase their ability to service debt, and effectively hedge their cash flows to the biodiesel markets.


      -- Crude Corn Oil
      GS CleanTech's patent-pending corn oil extraction system is
      designed to extract crude corn oil out of the distillers dried
      grain co-product of the dry mill ethanol production process. This
      crude corn oil has been proven to be an excellent biodiesel
      feedstock with the proper processing. GS CleanTech currently has
      more than 50 million gallons of crude corn oil under contract and
      expects to continue to increase this volume.
      GS AgriFuels has designed its own biodiesel production facilities
      to use NextGen technology and selected additional process
      capability to cost-effectively convert GS CleanTech's crude corn
      oil into biodiesel. The timing of the development and onset of
      operations of GS AgriFuels' biodiesel facilities is such that
      surplus supplies of corn oil are expected to be available as the
      associated extraction systems are installed.
      Qualified NextGen clients in selected geographies will be granted
      access to these surplus crude corn oil supplies at an annual rate
      equal 30% of purchased NextGen biodiesel production capacity for
      three years at prices that are indexed off of diesel spot and
      that are set at levels sufficient to service debt and other costs
      of capital.
      -- Fat Extraction From Dissolved Air Flotation Sludge
      About 100 million pigs, 35 million cattle, 1.6 billion turkeys and
      8 billion chickens are slaughtered and processed each year in the
      United States. The USDA requires facilities that process these
      meats to use large volumes of clean water to continuously rinse
      the meats as they are cut and packaged. These large volumes of
      water contain extremely high levels of protein and fat that are
      later removed by using conventional but highly efficient
      wastewater processing methods. The result of these processes is a
      cleansed wastewater and a concentrated sludge, which is called
      Dissolved Air Floatation ("DAF") sludge.
      The conventional practice among the more than 500 livestock and
      poultry processing facilities in the industry is to transport and
      dispose DAF Sludge through land application. The poultry industry
      alone produces 2.5 billion pounds or 63,000 tanker loads per year
      of DAF Sludge. GS CleanTech's DAF Fat Extraction System enables
      meat and poultry processors to reduce disposal volumes of DAF
      Sludge by more than 80% by removing fat contained in the DAF
      Sludge. With proper pretreatment, this fat is a good raw material
      for the production of biodiesel.
      Qualified NextGen clients in selected geographies have the
      opportunity to purchase turn-key DAF Fat Extraction Systems which
      are then installed off-site at facilities that GS CleanTech will
      help place in return for the long term (10 years or more) right
      to purchase the fat extracted by the system for a price based on
      a discount to prevailing diesel fuel prices - and at levels that
      are substantially lower than the price of conventionally
      available meat fats.

      NextGen Fuel's Technological Capabilities


      -- Process Intensified Esterification
      Traditional esterification processes typically require several
      hours to complete the conversion of qualified vegetable oils and
      animal fats into biodiesel; we intensify and idealize the
      conditions under which esterification occurs and we are
      consequently able to complete the conversion in less than 6
      minutes instead of hours under true plug (continuous) flow
      conditions - at a much smaller scale than traditional processes,
      and at reduced capital and operating costs as compared to
      traditional processes.
      With the NextGen technology, fats and oils simply move through the
      process with no need to linger at any particular stage while a
      reaction is allowed to complete; targeted fats and oils are
      reacted as they pass through the system. This has several
      compelling implications for developers and operators of biodiesel
      production facilities:
      -- Reduced Equipment and Related Infrastructure Needs -
      reacting the fats and oils as they move through the system
      versus at several stops along the away simply reduces the
      amount of tanks, pumps, controls, pipes, utilities, and
      square feet of floor space required to produce biodiesel.
      -- Process Time - intensifying the chemical reactions involved
      in biodiesel production accelerates reaction rates. Increased
      reaction rates correspond to less time required to complete
      the process, less equipment to manage raw materials as
      reactions are completed, and overall less labor and other
      operating and maintenance expenses.
      -- Greater Native Feedstock Tolerances - standard biodiesel
      processing will require feedstocks to comply with a range of
      relevant material specifications - the chemical reactions
      involved in a conventional process will not produce the
      desired product quality if feedstocks are out of
      specification. Intensifying the relevant chemical reactions
      increases the tolerance of the process to a wider array of
      feedstocks and enables more liberal material specification
      requirements.

      These benefits translate to reduced capital and operating expenses and a broader feedstock market for the client and equate to reduced financial, operational and market risk for the client and its stakeholders.

      The modular aspect of the NextGen technology allows developers and their financing sources to incur less financial and operating risk as they initiate production at, for example, a 10 or a 20 million gallon per year production facility, and then leverage their cash flows to scale plant sizes up into their desired markets. An additional 10 million gallon system can simply be plugged into an existing plant with reduced balance of plant costs.

      Most standard technologies, regardless of size, are designed to process a specific feedstock at any given time. The modular aspect of the NextGen systems allows operators to dedicate process lines to specific feedstocks or blends of feedstocks (for example, the first 10 million gallon line would process fat based feeds while the second processes oil based feeds).

      When a standard processing facility needs to be shut-down for maintenance or has a process upset, the operator's whole business stops. Modularity enables operators to keep their business operating as lines are iteratively shut-down for maintenance or the like. Standardization with a modular process technology also has compelling regulatory permitting and other operating benefits.

      NextGen is able to deliver fully designed and engineered, turn-key biodiesel processing systems at a capital and operational cost advantage.


      -- Operating NextGen Plants
      -- South East Asia: a 5MMgpy system processes crude palm oil with
      high FFA; this client is developing additional production
      capacity based on NextGen technology.
      -- Adrian, Michigan: this client has a 40MMgpy production
      facility, 10 MMgpy of which is currently operating. The feedstock
      is a rendered animal fat and refined vegetable oil. This client
      has plans to add crude vegetable oil to their feedstock list.
      -- Middletown, Indiana: this client has a 25MMgpy production
      facility, 5 MMgpy of which is currently operating. Another
      10MMgpy of capacity is scheduled for commissioning in December
      2007 and the balance in February 2008. The feedstock is partially
      rendered pork lard with high FFA. The client plans to open
      additional facilities within the region.
      -- GS AgriFuels: NextGen's parent company, GS AgriFuels
      Corporation, is currently developing a 10MMgpy corn oil biodiesel
      facility co-located at an ethanol plant in Fulton, New York,
      another at an ethanol plant in Iowa, and a third at another
      ethanol plant in Indiana. The New York and Iowa plants are being
      designed to scale up to 20MMgpy and 30MMgpy, respectively, and
      are scheduled for commissioning in late 2008. All of these
      facilities are based on NextGen technology.


      http://www.greenshift.com/news.php?id=233
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      schrieb am 14.11.07 17:42:07
      Beitrag Nr. 8.543 ()
      :confused:Ist das auch so eine D.I.R. Empfehlung. Wenn ja schnell schnell raus. Dann seit ihr noch mal glimpflig davon. Manchmal muss man Fehler eingestehen.:look:
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      schrieb am 14.11.07 20:21:06
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.427.034 von midi-p13 am 14.11.07 17:42:07Was ist D.I.R Empfehlung und was meinst du? :confused:
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      schrieb am 15.11.07 05:32:42
      Beitrag Nr. 8.545 ()
      Press Release Source: GreenShift Agrifuels


      GreenShift Agrifuels and Global Ethanol Form Corn Oil Biodiesel Joint Venture
      Wednesday November 14, 2:42 pm ET
      Companies to Build 30 Million Gallon Per Year Corn Oil Biodiesel Facility at Global Ethanol's 100 Million Gallon Ethanol Facility in Lakota, Iowa


      NEW YORK--(BUSINESS WIRE)--GreenShift Agrifuels (OTCBB: GSGF - News) and Global Ethanol, LLC today announced the execution of agreements to extract about 10 million gallons per year of crude corn oil from the distillers grain co-product of Global Ethanol’s 100 million gallon per year ethanol facility in Lakota, Iowa and 57 million gallon per year ethanol facility in Riga, Michigan, and to convert the extracted corn oil into biodiesel at Global Ethanol’s Lakota facility.
      ADVERTISEMENT


      Under the terms of the agreements, GS AgriFuels Corporation and Global Ethanol formed a jointly owned company called GS Global Biodiesel, LLC to build, own and operate the Lakota, Iowa-based biodiesel facility. The GS Global Biodiesel facility will be initially sized for 10 million gallons of biodiesel production per year but will be designed to scale up to 30 million gallons per year in coordination with the onset of production of nearby corn oil extraction systems that are installed by GS AgriFuels’ parent company, GS CleanTech Corporation.

      GS CleanTech’s patent-pending corn oil extraction system is designed to extract crude corn oil out of the distillers dried grain co-product of the dry mill ethanol production process. This crude corn oil has been proven to be an excellent biodiesel feedstock with the proper processing. GS CleanTech executed a development agreement with Global Ethanol and GS Global Biodiesel to build and install corn oil extraction systems at Global Ethanol’s Lakota and Riga ethanol facilities and to design and build the GS Global Biodiesel facility.

      GS AgriFuels will raise and provide the financing for the construction of the corn oil extraction systems at Global Ethanol’s Lakota and Riga ethanol facilities, as well as the financing for the construction and operation of the GS Global Biodiesel facility. Global Ethanol will manage and operate the GS Global Biodiesel facility and market all of the biodiesel produced. GS AgriFuels has recently engaged an investment banker to raise the estimated $35 million needed for the project. The parties expect that the first tranche of financing, which will support the construction and installation of two extraction systems in Lakota and one extraction system in Riga, will close in December 2007. The GS Global Biodiesel facility is expected to be commissioned beginning during the fourth quarter of 2008.

      Trevor Bourne, the chief executive officer of Global Ethanol, said that “We are very excited by the formation of GS Global Biodiesel. Global Ethanol is a leading producer of renewable fuels and is committed to increased production efficiencies and diversifying our commodities mix. GreenShift’s corn oil extraction and biodiesel production technologies have proven themselves to be the best solution available to achieve this. We are looking forward with great anticipation to the construction of GS Global Biodiesel and to exploring expanded opportunities to work with GreenShift in the future.”

      “Global Ethanol is clearly committed to technology-driven production improvements and is a key strategic partner for GreenShift,” added Kevin Kreisler, GreenShift’s chief executive officer. “In addition to converting the 10 million gallons of corn oil that we extract from Lakota and Riga into biodiesel, we plan to ship an additional 20 million gallons of corn oil as we bring extraction systems online at nearby ethanol facilities to GS Global Biodiesel for conversion as well. Global Ethanol’s team will run the facility and market the biodiesel and their expertise in commodities management and operations will make a facility of this scale an exciting and successful project.”
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      schrieb am 15.11.07 05:39:42
      Beitrag Nr. 8.546 ()
      NEW YORK--(BUSINESS WIRE)--GS AgriFuels Corporation (OTC Bulletin Board: GSGF - News) today announced that it has engaged the investment banking firm Fieldstone Private Capital Group (www.fpcg.com) for strategic advisory and to assist GS AgriFuels in its efforts to raise additional capital.
      ADVERTISEMENT


      “The first three quarters of 2007 have demonstrated strong market acceptance of GS AgriFuels products, and GS AgriFuels intends to raise significant additional capital to meet market demand and to execute on existing contracts,” said Ed Carroll, GS AgriFuels’ chief financial officer. “We are pleased to have engaged an investment bank of this caliber and with this much related experience to assist us in moving forward. Fieldstone was a natural choice for us given their global energy industry focus.”

      GS AgriFuels manufactures and markets biodiesel equipment and is developing multiple sites for its own biodiesel production based primarily on partnering with and locating at host ethanol facilities. Additionally, GS AgriFuels owns and operates a food-grade vegetable oil production and refinery facility.

      Fieldstone is an independent, employee owned global boutique investment banking firm providing financial advisory services to the energy and infrastructure industries. Founded in 1990, Fieldstone advises energy entrepreneurs and corporations on raising capital, leveraged buyouts and mergers and acquisitions globally. In the renewable energy and biofuels industry, Fieldstone’s experience includes buy and sell-side M&A transactions for projects, developers, asset portfolios and corporations, as well as raising senior and subordinated non-recourse debt, strategic equity and tax equity. Fieldstone’s investment banking business operates from offices in New York, London, Johannesburg, Berlin and Hyderabad.

      During 2006 Fieldstone closed a California transaction, CalPeak Power, which received Project Finance Magazine's “North America Portfolio Finance Deal of the Year” award for 2006. On that transaction, Fieldstone acted as exclusive financial advisor and placement agent to Starwood Energy Investor II, L.P. and Tyr Capital, LLC in connection with their May 2006 acquisition of CalPeak, a portfolio of gas-fired peakers in San Diego and San Francisco.
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      schrieb am 15.11.07 05:41:07
      Beitrag Nr. 8.547 ()
      Form 10QSB for GREENSHIFT CORP

      14-Nov-2007

      Quarterly Report




      http://biz.yahoo.com/e/071114/gshf.ob10qsb.html
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      schrieb am 15.11.07 07:34:16
      Beitrag Nr. 8.548 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.432.305 von weissnichtbescheid am 15.11.07 05:41:07kam der quartalsreport nachbörslich raus???

      was meinst du wie die amis drauf reagieren???
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      schrieb am 15.11.07 08:53:29
      Beitrag Nr. 8.549 ()
      :eek::rolleyes:
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      schrieb am 15.11.07 10:18:40
      Beitrag Nr. 8.550 ()
      Installation and Start-up of Corn Oil Extraction Systems. We have installed three corn oil extraction systems to date, one of which is our 100% owned Oshkosh system, which is located at Utica Energy, LLC's 50 million gallon per year Delta-T dry mill corn ethanol facility. This system is producing oil today at yields that correspond to more than 1.5 million gallons per year and about $1.125 million per year in contribution margin. We have completed engineering and purchased the long-lead time and other components for 7 additional systems corresponding to more than another 10.5 million gallons per year of extracted corn oil. These systems are scheduled for installation at a number of different ethanol facilities during the first 6 months of 2008. We are financing these deployments with our cash flows and a form of mezzanine project financing (not equity) that we expect to close in the near term.

      Net income from continuing operations for the three months ended September 30, 2007, was $1,046,968 as compared to a loss from continuing operations of $967,413 from the same period in 2006. The Company sold its interest in Seaway Valley Capital Corporation during the three months ended September 30, 2007 resulting in a gain on disposal of discontinued operations of $9,765,281. This resulted in a net gain from discontinued operations of $9,762,212 for three months ended September 30, 2007 and loss of $30,708 for the same period in 2006 were excluded from the above figures. Net income of $10,719,674 for the three months ended September 30, 2007 was due primarily to increased revenues from new business initiatives, a reduction in amortization charges associated with financing and issuance of stock based compensation as well as a reduction in selling, general and administrative expenses.

      Heute sollte sich der Kurs nach oben an Cleantech anpassen.
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      schrieb am 15.11.07 12:39:32
      Beitrag Nr. 8.551 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.434.145 von long-view-invest am 15.11.07 10:18:40na dann mal los :D

      ich denke das das mal ein paar gute nachrichten sind ;)
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      schrieb am 15.11.07 18:06:32
      Beitrag Nr. 8.552 ()
      Press Release Source: GS AgriFuels Corporation


      CORRECTING and REPLACING GS AgriFuels and Global Ethanol Form Corn Oil Biodiesel Joint Venture
      Thursday November 15, 11:44 am ET
      Companies to Build 30 Million Gallon Per Year Corn Oil Biodiesel Facility at Global Ethanol's 100 Million Gallon Ethanol Facility in Lakota, Iowa


      NEW YORK--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Headline of release dated Nov. 14, 2007 should read: GS AgriFuels and Global Ethanol Form Corn Oil Biodiesel Joint Venture (sted GreenShift Agrifuels and Global Ethanol Form Corn Oil Biodiesel Joint Venture). First graph, first sentence of release should read: GS AgriFuels (sted GreenShift Agrifuels).
      ADVERTISEMENT


      The corrected release reads:


      GS AGRIFUELS AND GLOBAL ETHANOL FORM CORN OIL BIODIESEL JOINT VENTURE


      Companies to Build 30 Million Gallon Per Year Corn Oil Biodiesel Facility at Global Ethanol’s 100 Million Gallon Ethanol Facility in Lakota, Iowa

      GS AgriFuels (OTCBB: GSGF - News) and Global Ethanol, LLC today announced the execution of agreements to extract about 10 million gallons per year of crude corn oil from the distillers grain co-product of Global Ethanol’s 100 million gallon per year ethanol facility in Lakota, Iowa and 57 million gallon per year ethanol facility in Riga, Michigan, and to convert the extracted corn oil into biodiesel at Global Ethanol’s Lakota facility.

      Under the terms of the agreements, GS AgriFuels Corporation and Global Ethanol formed a jointly owned company called GS Global Biodiesel, LLC to build, own and operate the Lakota, Iowa-based biodiesel facility. The GS Global Biodiesel facility will be initially sized for 10 million gallons of biodiesel production per year but will be designed to scale up to 30 million gallons per year in coordination with the onset of production of nearby corn oil extraction systems that are installed by GS AgriFuels’ parent company, GS CleanTech Corporation.

      GS CleanTech’s patent-pending corn oil extraction system is designed to extract crude corn oil out of the distillers dried grain co-product of the dry mill ethanol production process. This crude corn oil has been proven to be an excellent biodiesel feedstock with the proper processing. GS CleanTech executed a development agreement with Global Ethanol and GS Global Biodiesel to build and install corn oil extraction systems at Global Ethanol’s Lakota and Riga ethanol facilities and to design and build the GS Global Biodiesel facility.

      GS AgriFuels will raise and provide the financing for the construction of the corn oil extraction systems at Global Ethanol’s Lakota and Riga ethanol facilities, as well as the financing for the construction and operation of the GS Global Biodiesel facility. Global Ethanol will manage and operate the GS Global Biodiesel facility and market all of the biodiesel produced. GS AgriFuels has recently engaged an investment banker to raise the estimated $35 million needed for the project. The parties expect that the first tranche of financing, which will support the construction and installation of two extraction systems in Lakota and one extraction system in Riga, will close in December 2007. The GS Global Biodiesel facility is expected to be commissioned beginning during the fourth quarter of 2008.

      Trevor Bourne, the chief executive officer of Global Ethanol, said that “We are very excited by the formation of GS Global Biodiesel. Global Ethanol is a leading producer of renewable fuels and is committed to increased production efficiencies and diversifying our commodities mix. GreenShift’s corn oil extraction and biodiesel production technologies have proven themselves to be the best solution available to achieve this. We are looking forward with great anticipation to the construction of GS Global Biodiesel and to exploring expanded opportunities to work with GreenShift in the future.”

      “Global Ethanol is clearly committed to technology-driven production improvements and is a key strategic partner for GreenShift,” added Kevin Kreisler, GreenShift’s chief executive officer. “In addition to converting the 10 million gallons of corn oil that we extract from Lakota and Riga into biodiesel, we plan to ship an additional 20 million gallons of corn oil as we bring extraction systems online at nearby ethanol facilities to GS Global Biodiesel for conversion as well. Global Ethanol’s team will run the facility and market the biodiesel and their expertise in commodities management and operations will make a facility of this scale an exciting and successful project.”

      About Global Ethanol, LLC

      Global Ethanol, a Minneapolis based company was established in 2006 and currently employs 140 employees in three locations. With operating plants located in Lakota, Iowa and Riga Michigan, Global Ethanol is turning fields of corn into clean-burning ethanol. In Lakota we produce 34 million bushels of corn into 100 million gallons of ethanol annually. Another 57 million gallons are produced in Riga from 19.9 million bushels of corn.

      At Global Ethanol, an unrelenting pursuit of excellence will help us achieve our goal to be a leader in the worldwide renewable fuels industry. Excellence is both our operational mandate and the promise we make to our customers, suppliers, shareholders and the rural communities we serve.

      About GS CleanTech Corporation

      GS CleanTech Corporation (OTC Bulletin Board: GSCT - News) provides applied engineering and technology transfer services based on clean technologies and process innovations that make the use of natural resources more efficient. Additional information on GS CleanTech’s Corn Oil Extraction System and GS CleanTech’s ethanol efficiency program is available online at www.gs-cleantech.com.

      Additional information regarding GS CleanTech’s corn oil extraction technology and GS AgriFuels’ NextGen biodiesel technology is available online at www.gs-cleantech.com and www.nextgenfuel.com.

      Pictures of a recent GS CleanTech corn oil extraction system installation can be found at http://www.gs-cleantech.com in the Multimedia & Downloads section of the Products & Services section for GS CleanTech’s Corn Oil Extraction Systems (http://www.gs-cleantech.com/product_desc.php?mode=1&media=true).

      About GS AgriFuels Corporation

      GS AgriFuels (OTC Bulletin Board: GSGF - News) was founded to produce and sell clean fuels from agriproducts in innovative ways. GS AgriFuels’ business model is based on the manufacturing and sales of proprietary biodiesel equipment and the use of new technologies to produce biodiesel and ethanol from non-traditional feedstocks such as corn oil and cellulosic biomass through the utilization of several new proprietary technologies, including innovative desiccation, process intensification, gasification, and catalytic technologies, synergistically at small-scales to enable the refining of many forms of biomass into clean fuels at Integrated Multi-Fuel (“IMF”) production facilities. Additional information on GS AgriFuels is available online at www.gs-agrifuels.com.

      Safe Harbor Statement

      This press release contains statements that may constitute "forward-looking statements" within the meaning of the Securities Act of 1933 and the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended by the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Those statements include statements regarding the intent, belief or current expectations of GreenShift Corporation, GS CleanTech Corporation and GS AgriFuels Corporation and members of their management as well as the assumptions on which such statements are based. Prospective investors are cautioned that any such forward-looking statements are not guarantees of future performance and involve risks and uncertainties, and that actual results may differ materially from those contemplated by such forward-looking statements. Important factors currently known to management that could cause actual results to differ materially from those in forward-statements include fluctuation of operating results, the ability to compete successfully and the ability to complete before-mentioned transactions. The company undertakes no obligation to update or revise forward-looking statements to reflect changed assumptions, the occurrence of unanticipated events or changes to future operating results.



      Contact:
      GreenShift Corporation
      212-994-5374
      Fax: 646-572-6336
      investorrelations@greenshift.com
      www.greenshift.com
      OR
      Investor Relations:
      CEOcast, Inc.
      Andrew Hellman, 212-732-4300

      --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Source: GS AgriFuels Corporation
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      schrieb am 15.11.07 19:56:43
      Beitrag Nr. 8.553 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.441.727 von minadon am 15.11.07 18:06:32KK kommt mit seinem Gestrüpp von Firmen selber schon nicht mehr zurecht! ;)
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      schrieb am 16.11.07 12:14:07
      Beitrag Nr. 8.554 ()
      wann soll das aktiengemauschel eigentlich über die bühne gehn?
      also wann werden unsere Aktien in noch weitaus wertlosere umgetauscht?
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      schrieb am 16.11.07 12:56:54
      Beitrag Nr. 8.555 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.450.080 von dahool23 am 16.11.07 12:14:07Sie werden in wesentlich wertvollere getauscht.
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      schrieb am 16.11.07 13:20:21
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.450.733 von long-view-invest am 16.11.07 12:56:54ja genau.. und wann?
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      schrieb am 16.11.07 14:02:59
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.451.151 von dahool23 am 16.11.07 13:20:21Steht in da News ;) Aktuell sind ist das Packet ungefähr 2,9 cent wert bei einem Kurs von 1,8 :laugh:
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      schrieb am 16.11.07 14:59:05
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.452.025 von long-view-invest am 16.11.07 14:02:59News
      GreenShift Announces Third Quarter Results

      GreenShift Corporation (OTC Bulletin Board: GSHF) today announced its financial results for the third quarter of 2007.

      Three Months Ended September 30, 2007

      Revenues for the three months ended September 30, 2007 were $14,519,000, corresponding to an increase of about $8,567,000 or 144% over the revenues of about $5,952,000 generated during the three months ended September 30, 2006, and an increase of about $7,938,000 or 121% over the revenues of about $6,581,000 generated during the three months ended June 30, 2007. These increases were primarily the result of the growth of GreenShift’s subsidiaries, GS CleanTech, GS AgriFuels, GS Energy and GS EnviroServices.

      Net income from continuing operations for the three months ended September 30, 2007, was $1,047,000 as compared to a loss from continuing operations of $967,000 from the same period in 2006. Net income of $10,719,000 for the three months ended September 30, 2007 was due to increased revenues from new business initiatives, a reduction in selling, general and administrative expenses, and a reduction in amortization charges associated with financing and issuance of stock based compensation. These amounts were offset by additional expenses incurred during the third quarter relative to the Company’s various technology development activities.

      The magnitude of certain of these items is expected to be non-recurring and linked to the future effect of adjusting derivatives to market value will depend on future changes in the stock prices of GreenShift and its subsidiaries. To clarify the effect of these items on GreenShift’s results, the following table reconciles the reported net income/(loss) of GreenShift and its subsidiaries on an unconsolidated basis with adjusted EBITDA (a non-GAAP measure of performance) for the three months ended September 30, 2007:
      3 Months Ended 9/30/07 GreenShift GS CleanTech

      GS EnviroServices
      GS AgriFuels GS Energy Total
      Income (Loss) $ 9,775,820 $ (855,933) $ 123,842 $ 1,214,489 $ 461,456 $ 10,719,674
      Interest 64,750 342,692 33,423 1,065,356 8,238 1,514,459
      Depreciation & Amortization 1,475,754 613,540 69,967 758,509 -- 2,917,770
      Unrealized Gains/Losses
      on Derivatives (2,473,251) (186,909) -- -- -- (2,660,160)
      Realized Gains/Losses on Sale
      of Discontinued Operations (9,765,281) 3,069 -- -- -- (9,762,212)
      Stock-based Compensation 13,123 -- 28,999 -- -- 42,122
      Other Non-recurring Items -- 540,025 -- -- -- 540,025
      Taxes 25,144 1,079 25,961 253,331 -- 305,515
      Adjusted EBITDA $ (883,941) $ 457,563 $ 282,192 $ 3,291,685 $ 469,694 $ 3,617,193

      Nine Months Ended September 30, 2007

      During the nine months ended September 30, 2007 the activities of GreenShift’s subsidiaries generated about $25,120,000 million in revenue, representing an increase of $7,860,569 or 46% over the revenues of $17,260,000 million reported for the nine months ended September 30, 2006.

      Operating expenses for the nine months ended September 30, 2007 were about $15,982,000 or 64% of revenue compared to about $10,155,000, or 59% of revenue for the same period in 2006. The expenses for 2007 included about $6,092,000 in non-recurring stock based expenses. The increase in operating expenses is due primarily to increases in personnel and other overhead related to the Company’s process engineering, feedstock production, oilseed crush and equipment manufacturing operations.

      Despite the 46% increase in revenues, net loss during the nine months ended September 30, 2007 was about $12,700,000, an increase from the $9,660,000 loss recorded in the same period of 2006. The two primary reasons for the magnitude of the nine month loss were expenses attributable to the transition from technology development to mature market execution and expenses attributable to past financing activities. Specifically, during the recent nine month period GreenShift incurred substantial expenses attributable to:

      * Technology development activities;
      * One-time equity grants to employees and consultants in lieu of cash compensation; and
      * Adjustments to the book value of derivatives associated with financing activities in 2005 and 2006.

      Management expects the magnitude of those three items of expense to be non-recurring, although the future effect of adjusting derivatives to market value will depend on future changes in the stock prices of GreenShift and its subsidiaries. To clarify the effect of these one-time charges and financing charges on GreenShift’s results, the following table reconciles the reported net income/(loss) of GreenShift and its subsidiaries on an unconsolidated basis with adjusted EBITDA (a non-GAAP measure of performance):
      9 Months Ended 9/30/07 GreenShift GS CleanTech GS EnviroServices GS AgriFuels GS Energy Total
      Income (Loss) $ (8,486,596) $ 252,195 $ 289,992 $ (5,184,394) $ 394,260 $ (12,734,543)
      Interest 897,043 855,059 77,702 3,025,503 54,646 4,909,953
      Depreciation & Amortization 1,135,136 2,920,612 209,902 2,240,851 -- 6.506,501
      Unrealized Gains/Losses
      on Derivatives (669,173) (3,405,607) -- -- -- (4,074,780)
      Realized Gains/Losses on Sale
      of Discontinued Operations (323,077) (2,491,877) -- -- -- (2,814,954)
      Stock-based Compensation 3,715,594 416,751 62,267 1,897,904 -- 6,092,516
      Other Non-recurring Items -- 540,025 -- -- -- 540,025
      Taxes 25,144 1,079 112,190 253,331 -- 391,744
      Adjusted EBITDA $ (3,705,929) $ (911,763) $ 752,053 $ 2,233,195 $ 448,906$ (1,183,538)

      Discussion and Analysis

      “Our sales and net income from continuing operations during the third quarter were more than twice those of the third quarter of last year,” said Jacqueline Flynn, GreenShift’s Chief Financial Officer. “These increases were attributable to increased sales in our environmental services and manufacturing operations and, importantly, our recent transition from investing in emerging technology development in several technologies to market execution for our corn oil extraction and biodiesel production technologies.”

      Ed Carroll, GreenShift’s Chief Operating Officer, added that “The adjusted EBITDA data are particularly telling of what has been going on with GreenShift as it relates to its structure and other administrative inefficiencies. Each of our operations produced positive EBITDA during the third quarter – $3.6 million in total. To the extent that we are still burning cash, it is happening at the corporate level. We have already taken steps to reduce these expenses and we are implementing still more steps to bring our administrative expenses under control and to increase cash flows from operations.”

      “A key area of focus is finding rapid and cost-effective ways to further streamline our corporate structure,” continued Carroll. “We have cash flow producing assets today based on technologies that were not in the field a year ago. We have established that we can move clean technologies from the bench into a cash flowing business, and our growth rates of sales and earnings show that we can build an extremely exciting and profitable company.”

      “In an ideal world, GreenShift would be one company – not five different companies sharing the same mission and differing only in their operational focus. Getting to less GS entities or even one GS entity is achievable but it would require diverting significant funds and focus away from growth. For the time being, we are going to content ourselves with keeping our corporate costs down as much as possible while we continue to focus on execution and raising the capital we need to build out our extraction, biodiesel, crush and environmental service assets,” said Carroll.

      “Another important goal is the continued reduction of our debt,” added Flynn. “We have raised a great deal of capital from YA Global Investments and they have played a vital role in our development, but the time has come to accelerate repayment. We intend to do so with cash and stock at valuations much higher than our current market prices. We hope to have YA Global paid off at all GS companies in 2008 through a combination of cash flows and proceeds from GS AgriFuels’ planned $100 million capital raise.”

      GreenShift reduced its debt during the nine months ended September 30, 2007 by about $9.6 million, or by about 16% – $2.6 million of this debt was forgiven and contributed to the Company’s capital by related parties for no additional consideration. If GreenShift can replace all convertible, derivative-laden debt on its balance sheet with more conventional financing, the burden of expenses attributable to those derivatives on GreenShift’s operating results can be alleviated.

      Fourth Quarter Outlook

      GreenShift expects its financial results for the fourth quarter of 2007 to be consistent with the trend set during the third quarter and that it will continue to increase sales and improve earnings.

      GreenShift’s operating plan for the foreseeable future is to remain focused on sales and earnings growth through the deployment and commissioning of its corn oil extraction systems, the sales of biodiesel equipment, the financing, construction and operation of our co-located corn oil biodiesel production facilities, the expansion and operation of our oilseed crush plant, the growth of our environmental services group, and the growth of our design and manufacturing group. GreenShift currently expects fourth quarter sales to exceed $7 million as a result of these activities.

      About GreenShift Corporation

      GreenShift Corporation develops and supports clean technologies and companies that facilitate the efficient use of natural resources. GreenShift's ambition is to catalyze the rapid realization of disruptive environmental gains by creating valuable opportunities for a great many people and companies to use resources more efficiently and to be more profitable. Additional information on GreenShift is available online at www.greenshift.com.

      GreenShift currently owns 80% of GS CleanTech Corporation (OTC Bulletin Board: GSCT), which company now holds majority stakes in each of GS AgriFuels Corporation (OTC Bulletin Board: GSGF), GS Energy Corporation (OTC Bulletin Board: GSEG) and GS EnviroServices, Inc. (OTC Bulletin Board: GSEN).

      About Non-GAAP Financial Measures

      To supplement our consolidated financial statements, which statements are prepared and presented in accordance with GAAP, we use an adjusted EBITDA calculation, which is a non-GAAP financial measure. The presentation of this financial information is not intended to be considered in isolation or as a substitute for, or superior to, the financial information prepared and presented in accordance with GAAP. For more information on this non-GAAP financial measure, please see the reconciliation of Net Income (loss) (GAAP) to Adjusted EBITDA (non-GAAP) presented in the body of this release.

      We use this adjusted EBITDA (non-GAAP) for financial and operational decision-making and as a means to evaluate period-to-period comparisons. Our management believes that adjusted EBITDA (non-GAAP) provides meaningful supplemental information regarding our performance by excluding certain expenses and other non-recurring items that may not be indicative of our "recurring core business operating results," meaning our operating performance excluding not only non-cash charges, such as stock-based compensation and unrealized gains (losses) on derivatives, but also charges that are infrequent in nature. We believe that both management and investors benefit from referring to adjusted EBITDA (non-GAAP) in assessing our performance and when planning, forecasting and analyzing future periods. Adjusted EBITDA (non-GAAP) also facilitates management's internal comparisons to our historical performance as well as comparisons to our competitors' operating results. We believe adjusted EBITDA (non-GAAP) is useful to investors because it allows for greater transparency with respect to key metrics used by management in its financial and operational decision-making.

      Safe Harbor Statement

      This press release contains statements that may constitute "forward-looking statements" within the meaning of the Securities Act of 1933 and the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended by the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Those statements include statements regarding the intent, belief or current expectations of GreenShift Corporation, GS CleanTech Corporation, GS AgriFuels Corporation, GS Energy Corporation and GS EnviroServices, Inc., and members of their management as well as the assumptions on which such statements are based. Prospective investors are cautioned that any such forward-looking statements are not guarantees of future performance and involve risks and uncertainties, and that actual results may differ materially from those contemplated by such forward-looking statements. Important factors currently known to management that could cause actual results to differ materially from those in forward-statements include fluctuation of operating results, the ability to compete successfully and the ability to complete before-mentioned transactions. The company undertakes no obligation to update or revise forward-looking statements to reflect changed assumptions, the occurrence of unanticipated events or changes to future operating results.

      GreenShift Corporation, 212-994-5374
      Fax: 646-572-6336
      Email: investorrelations@greenshift.com
      Web: www.greenshift.com
      or
      Investor Relations:
      CEOcast, Inc.
      Andrew Hellman, 212-732-4300
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      schrieb am 16.11.07 15:06:14
      Beitrag Nr. 8.559 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.452.977 von aloevera2750 am 16.11.07 14:59:05Revenues for the three months ended September 30, 2007 were $14,519,000 , corresponding to an increase of about:eek: $8,567,000 or 144%:eek: over the revenues of about $5,952,000 generated during the three months ended September 30, 2006
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      schrieb am 16.11.07 15:12:45
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      Besonders bemerkenswert finde ich folgende Aussage, die gefällt mir wirklich:

      "We hope to have YA Global paid off at all GS companies in 2008 through a combination of cash flows and proceeds from GS AgriFuels’ planned $100 million capital raise.”
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      schrieb am 16.11.07 15:18:53
      Beitrag Nr. 8.561 ()
      Wie ist die Taxe in USA, tut sich da schon was :rolleyes:
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      schrieb am 16.11.07 15:20:24
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.453.294 von Boersenfuchs69 am 16.11.07 15:18:53nein noch nicht viel
      usa 28 zu 29:):)
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      schrieb am 16.11.07 15:23:27
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      Bin auch schon am überlegen:rolleyes: Wenn sich vor halb was ändert, wärst Du so lieb und stellst es rein :kiss::kiss:
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      schrieb am 16.11.07 15:25:59
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.453.366 von Boersenfuchs69 am 16.11.07 15:23:27
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      schrieb am 16.11.07 15:31:18
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.453.410 von aloevera2750 am 16.11.07 15:25:59RT 0,034:eek::eek:
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      schrieb am 16.11.07 15:41:15
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      :eek::eek::eek:

      die rockt heute :cool:
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      schrieb am 16.11.07 15:56:49
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      Was fürn Dreck. Ich hab heute Greenshift geschmissen, um einen OTC-Zock zu reiten und meine Bank hat dieses Ding vom Handel ausgeschlossen. Scheisse und nun steigt Greenshift auch noch. :mad:
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      schrieb am 16.11.07 16:02:09
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.454.024 von long-view-invest am 16.11.07 15:56:49geht mir auch meistens so, wenn ich verkaufe, steigt die Aktie.
      Bei Greenshift scheint aber in den letzten Tagen das volumen zu zunehmen, so das es jetzt nächste Woche wohl weiter bergauf gehen könnte. :cool:
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      schrieb am 16.11.07 16:07:46
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.454.117 von i2fan am 16.11.07 16:02:09Bin für OTC Spiele extra bei der DAB. Welchen Broker sollt man nehmen. Ich wechsel jetzt.
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      schrieb am 16.11.07 16:22:37
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.454.233 von long-view-invest am 16.11.07 16:07:46o siet gut aus
      aber GSC ist BESCHISSEN:mad::mad:
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      schrieb am 16.11.07 16:38:57
      Beitrag Nr. 8.571 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.454.024 von long-view-invest am 16.11.07 15:56:49mach Dir nix draus. Der Vorteil greenshift zu kaufen ist eh bald dahin. Dann lohnt es nicht mehr in greenshift zu investieren um clean tech zu bekommen.
      Gruß pfiffie
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      schrieb am 16.11.07 17:12:32
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.454.859 von pfiffie am 16.11.07 16:38:57Ich könnt heulen. 2,3 cent und ich hab 1,9 gekriegt. Und das völlig umsonst.
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      schrieb am 16.11.07 17:17:36
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.455.489 von long-view-invest am 16.11.07 17:12:32:laugh::laugh:

      na geschieht dir ganz recht du Windrädchen:laugh: Auf 10 Cent müssten sie jetzt steigen :p
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      schrieb am 16.11.07 17:19:45
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.455.579 von zuzlhuba am 16.11.07 17:17:36war bei der letzten kleinen Hype auch so, Freitag der erste größere Anstieg, dann gings ab Montag in den Bereich von über 0,04 Euro cents :D
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      schrieb am 16.11.07 17:35:51
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      montag wieder 0,017 :D
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      schrieb am 16.11.07 17:48:20
      Beitrag Nr. 8.576 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.455.876 von occan am 16.11.07 17:35:51

      bei dem ansteigendem Volumen kann ich mir das nicht vorstellen, wird nächte Woche weiter up gehen :D
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      schrieb am 16.11.07 17:57:09
      Beitrag Nr. 8.577 ()
      Das sieht recht gut aus: Volumen!
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      schrieb am 16.11.07 18:04:57
      Beitrag Nr. 8.578 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.454.024 von long-view-invest am 16.11.07 15:56:49Normalerweise kannst Du Dich aber bei Deiner Bank für den OTC-Handel freischalten lassen. Mußt nur eine gesonderte Erklärung unterschreiben und denen zufaxen!
      Ist zumindest bei ConSors so gewesen!:cool:

      Gerade Tageshoch bei 0,038$ +35,7% :eek:;):eek:
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      schrieb am 16.11.07 18:17:28
      Beitrag Nr. 8.579 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.455.608 von i2fan am 16.11.07 17:19:45Bei den überraschend guten Zahlen, kann´s diesmal sogar noch etwas weiter aufwärts gehen!;)
      Der Ausblick auf´s 4. Quartal ist auch nicht übel.

      Aber bei einem OTC-Wert kann´s dann natürlich auch genau so schnell
      wieder in die andere Richtigung gehen.
      Zumal dieser undurchschaubare Umtausch noch vor uns liegt.:rolleyes:

      Umweltaktien werden spätestens nach der nächsten Präsi-Wahl bei den Yankees entdeckt werden.
      Wenn Greenshift oder die Töchter bis dahin nicht Pleite sind, könnten sie dann vielleicht sogar mal wieder alte Höhen erreichen?!
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      schrieb am 16.11.07 18:23:12
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      naja 52w tief war 0,016 soviel na unten ist ja keine luft mehr aber zu 0,30 noch sehr viel :cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:
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      schrieb am 16.11.07 18:29:59
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.456.674 von occan am 16.11.07 18:23:12Wird ja auch nicht von heute auf morgen passieren!:cool::D

      Nach unten war noch ca. 0,016€ Platz!:laugh:
      Inzwischen immerhin 0,023€!

      We´ll see!
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      schrieb am 16.11.07 19:54:46
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.456.385 von JamaicaJack am 16.11.07 18:04:57Ich kann alle Werte eigentlich handeln. Warum dieser eine gesperrt ist werde ich nie erfahren.
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      schrieb am 16.11.07 22:05:51
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      SK 0,038 dollar
      = 0,026 euro
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      schrieb am 16.11.07 22:09:47
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.460.121 von aloevera2750 am 16.11.07 22:05:51und ab montag gehts dann los :D
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      schrieb am 16.11.07 22:13:31
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.460.201 von i2fan am 16.11.07 22:09:47hoffe doch:D:D
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      schrieb am 17.11.07 13:21:24
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.460.263 von aloevera2750 am 16.11.07 22:13:31
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      schrieb am 19.11.07 08:14:06
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      guten morgen!!!

      ich denke wir haben eine "grasgrüne" woche vor uns :D

      bei tradegate siehts heut morgen schon sehr gut aus

      0,028 € :eek:
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      schrieb am 19.11.07 08:41:24
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      guten morgen zusammen
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      schrieb am 19.11.07 09:04:22
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.476.059 von joergstgt am 19.11.07 08:41:24Moin jungs
      auf eine grüne woche:lick::lick:
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      schrieb am 19.11.07 10:33:10
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      Guten Morgen an alle :)

      Mal sehen wie die Woche so verläuft geht ja schon mal schön grüüüüüüüüün los.
      Hoffentlich geht das so weiter, was kann man (realistisch) erwarten ? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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      schrieb am 19.11.07 10:59:37
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.477.115 von powerslave am 19.11.07 10:33:10RT 0,026€ +13,04% in Stuttgart 200.000 Volumen:cool:

      Das ist doch schon mal was!;)
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      schrieb am 19.11.07 11:09:33
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.477.391 von JamaicaJack am 19.11.07 10:59:37naja hauptsache die amis machen heute dort weiter wo sie am freitag aufgehört haben ;)
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      schrieb am 19.11.07 11:11:42
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      Am Freitag kamen doch die Zahlen für das 3. Quartal. Die Auswirkungen werden wir wohl erst heute in USA sehen.
      Der Kursanstieg am Freitag war erst der Anfang.
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      schrieb am 19.11.07 11:31:52
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.477.506 von powerslave am 19.11.07 11:11:42ich hoffe das es so sein wird
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      schrieb am 19.11.07 11:45:30
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      :) Hier nochmal die guten News vom Freitag -
      für alle die es noch nicht gelesen haben:



      Press Release Source: GreenShift Corporation

      GreenShift Announces Third Quarter Results
      Friday November 16, 8:35 am ET



      NEW YORK--(BUSINESS WIRE)--GreenShift Corporation (OTC Bulletin Board: GSHF - News) today announced its financial results for the third quarter of 2007.
      ADVERTISEMENT


      Three Months Ended September 30, 2007

      Revenues for the three months ended September 30, 2007 were $14,519,000, corresponding to an increase of about $8,567,000 or 144% over the revenues of about $5,952,000 generated during the three months ended September 30, 2006, and an increase of about $7,938,000 or 121% over the revenues of about $6,581,000 generated during the three months ended June 30, 2007. These increases were primarily the result of the growth of GreenShift’s subsidiaries, GS CleanTech, GS AgriFuels, GS Energy and GS EnviroServices.

      Net income from continuing operations for the three months ended September 30, 2007, was $1,047,000 as compared to a loss from continuing operations of $967,000 from the same period in 2006. Net income of $10,719,000 for the three months ended September 30, 2007 was due to increased revenues from new business initiatives, a reduction in selling, general and administrative expenses, and a reduction in amortization charges associated with financing and issuance of stock based compensation. These amounts were offset by additional expenses incurred during the third quarter relative to the Company’s various technology development activities.

      The magnitude of certain of these items is expected to be non-recurring and linked to the future effect of adjusting derivatives to market value will depend on future changes in the stock prices of GreenShift and its subsidiaries. To clarify the effect of these items on GreenShift’s results, the following table reconciles the reported net income/(loss) of GreenShift and its subsidiaries on an unconsolidated basis with adjusted EBITDA (a non-GAAP measure of performance) for the three months ended September 30, 2007:

      3 Months Ended 9/30/07 GreenShift GS CleanTech GS EnviroServices
      GS AgriFuels GS Energy Total
      Income (Loss) $ 9,775,820 $ (855,933) $ 123,842 $ 1,214,489 $ 461,456 $ 10,719,674
      Interest 64,750 342,692 33,423 1,065,356 8,238 1,514,459
      Depreciation & Amortization 1,475,754 613,540 69,967 758,509 -- 2,917,770
      Unrealized Gains/Losses
      on Derivatives (2,473,251) (186,909) -- -- -- (2,660,160)
      Realized Gains/Losses on Sale
      of Discontinued Operations (9,765,281) 3,069 -- -- -- (9,762,212)
      Stock-based Compensation 13,123 -- 28,999 -- -- 42,122
      Other Non-recurring Items -- 540,025 -- -- -- 540,025
      Taxes 25,144 1,079 25,961 253,331 -- 305,515
      Adjusted EBITDA $ (883,941) $ 457,563 $ 282,192 $ 3,291,685 $ 469,694 $ 3,617,193


      Nine Months Ended September 30, 2007

      During the nine months ended September 30, 2007 the activities of GreenShift’s subsidiaries generated about $25,120,000 million in revenue, representing an increase of $7,860,569 or 46% over the revenues of $17,260,000 million reported for the nine months ended September 30, 2006.

      Operating expenses for the nine months ended September 30, 2007 were about $15,982,000 or 64% of revenue compared to about $10,155,000, or 59% of revenue for the same period in 2006. The expenses for 2007 included about $6,092,000 in non-recurring stock based expenses. The increase in operating expenses is due primarily to increases in personnel and other overhead related to the Company’s process engineering, feedstock production, oilseed crush and equipment manufacturing operations.

      Despite the 46% increase in revenues, net loss during the nine months ended September 30, 2007 was about $12,700,000, an increase from the $9,660,000 loss recorded in the same period of 2006. The two primary reasons for the magnitude of the nine month loss were expenses attributable to the transition from technology development to mature market execution and expenses attributable to past financing activities. Specifically, during the recent nine month period GreenShift incurred substantial expenses attributable to:


      Technology development activities;
      One-time equity grants to employees and consultants in lieu of cash compensation; and
      Adjustments to the book value of derivatives associated with financing activities in 2005 and 2006.
      Management expects the magnitude of those three items of expense to be non-recurring, although the future effect of adjusting derivatives to market value will depend on future changes in the stock prices of GreenShift and its subsidiaries. To clarify the effect of these one-time charges and financing charges on GreenShift’s results, the following table reconciles the reported net income/(loss) of GreenShift and its subsidiaries on an unconsolidated basis with adjusted EBITDA (a non-GAAP measure of performance):

      9 Months Ended 9/30/07 GreenShift GS CleanTech GS EnviroServices GS AgriFuels GS Energy Total
      Income (Loss) $ (8,486,596) $ 252,195 $ 289,992 $ (5,184,394) $ 394,260 $ (12,734,543)
      Interest 897,043 855,059 77,702 3,025,503 54,646 4,909,953
      Depreciation & Amortization 1,135,136 2,920,612 209,902 2,240,851 -- 6.506,501
      Unrealized Gains/Losses
      on Derivatives (669,173) (3,405,607) -- -- -- (4,074,780)
      Realized Gains/Losses on Sale
      of Discontinued Operations (323,077) (2,491,877) -- -- -- (2,814,954)
      Stock-based Compensation 3,715,594 416,751 62,267 1,897,904 -- 6,092,516
      Other Non-recurring Items -- 540,025 -- -- -- 540,025
      Taxes 25,144 1,079 112,190 253,331 -- 391,744
      Adjusted EBITDA $ (3,705,929) $ (911,763) $ 752,053 $ 2,233,195 $ 448,906$ (1,183,538)


      Discussion and Analysis

      “Our sales and net income from continuing operations during the third quarter were more than twice those of the third quarter of last year,” said Jacqueline Flynn, GreenShift’s Chief Financial Officer. “These increases were attributable to increased sales in our environmental services and manufacturing operations and, importantly, our recent transition from investing in emerging technology development in several technologies to market execution for our corn oil extraction and biodiesel production technologies.”

      Ed Carroll, GreenShift’s Chief Operating Officer, added that “The adjusted EBITDA data are particularly telling of what has been going on with GreenShift as it relates to its structure and other administrative inefficiencies. Each of our operations produced positive EBITDA during the third quarter – $3.6 million in total. To the extent that we are still burning cash, it is happening at the corporate level. We have already taken steps to reduce these expenses and we are implementing still more steps to bring our administrative expenses under control and to increase cash flows from operations.”

      “A key area of focus is finding rapid and cost-effective ways to further streamline our corporate structure,” continued Carroll. “We have cash flow producing assets today based on technologies that were not in the field a year ago. We have established that we can move clean technologies from the bench into a cash flowing business, and our growth rates of sales and earnings show that we can build an extremely exciting and profitable company.”

      “In an ideal world, GreenShift would be one company – not five different companies sharing the same mission and differing only in their operational focus. Getting to less GS entities or even one GS entity is achievable but it would require diverting significant funds and focus away from growth. For the time being, we are going to content ourselves with keeping our corporate costs down as much as possible while we continue to focus on execution and raising the capital we need to build out our extraction, biodiesel, crush and environmental service assets,” said Carroll.

      “Another important goal is the continued reduction of our debt,” added Flynn. “We have raised a great deal of capital from YA Global Investments and they have played a vital role in our development, but the time has come to accelerate repayment. We intend to do so with cash and stock at valuations much higher than our current market prices. We hope to have YA Global paid off at all GS companies in 2008 through a combination of cash flows and proceeds from GS AgriFuels’ planned $100 million capital raise.”

      GreenShift reduced its debt during the nine months ended September 30, 2007 by about $9.6 million, or by about 16% – $2.6 million of this debt was forgiven and contributed to the Company’s capital by related parties for no additional consideration. If GreenShift can replace all convertible, derivative-laden debt on its balance sheet with more conventional financing, the burden of expenses attributable to those derivatives on GreenShift’s operating results can be alleviated.

      Fourth Quarter Outlook

      GreenShift expects its financial results for the fourth quarter of 2007 to be consistent with the trend set during the third quarter and that it will continue to increase sales and improve earnings.

      GreenShift’s operating plan for the foreseeable future is to remain focused on sales and earnings growth through the deployment and commissioning of its corn oil extraction systems, the sales of biodiesel equipment, the financing, construction and operation of our co-located corn oil biodiesel production facilities, the expansion and operation of our oilseed crush plant, the growth of our environmental services group, and the growth of our design and manufacturing group. GreenShift currently expects fourth quarter sales to exceed $7 million as a result of these activities.

      Quelle: http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/071116/20071116005287.html?.v=1




      Als Reaktion auf die guten Zahlen hat der Kurs unter erhöhtem Volumen drüben bereits schön angezogen.
      Denke daß der Kurs ab 15h30 weiter anzieht.
      Die Masse kommt erst heute zum einkaufen :)
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      schrieb am 19.11.07 12:03:19
      Beitrag Nr. 8.596 ()
      Haben wir denn noch Luft nach oben?:confused:
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      schrieb am 19.11.07 12:11:52
      Beitrag Nr. 8.597 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.478.084 von habnurwenig am 19.11.07 12:03:19Klar. Wir stehen erst am Anfang.
      Auf zu neuen Höchstständen :)

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      schrieb am 19.11.07 12:18:28
      Beitrag Nr. 8.598 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.478.084 von habnurwenig am 19.11.07 12:03:19Widerstand von 0,028$ wurde durchbrochen, der Weg nach oben ist frei.
      Habe ich nicht recht, gibts hier keine Charttechniker?
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      schrieb am 19.11.07 12:18:50
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.478.185 von wallyonline am 19.11.07 12:11:52Was für einen Kurs sehen wir denn heute Deiner Meinung nach noch?:confused:
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      schrieb am 19.11.07 12:40:42
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.478.265 von habnurwenig am 19.11.07 12:18:50Ich bin kein Hellseher und hab auch keine Glaskugel, leider :laugh:
      Und nach Charttechnik würde ich bei GSHF auch nicht gehen...

      Aber wenn du mich fragst was ich mir für heute erhoffe dann sag ich mal plus 20-30% :)
      Und für nächstes Jahr Kurse um 0,30-050 Dollar

      Meine Meinung...
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      schrieb am 19.11.07 12:42:31
      Beitrag Nr. 8.601 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.478.526 von wallyonline am 19.11.07 12:40:42Korrektur..es muß heißen 0,30-0,50 :)
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      schrieb am 19.11.07 13:05:41
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.478.553 von wallyonline am 19.11.07 12:42:31Na dann, danke. Hoffe Du hast recht.;)
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      schrieb am 19.11.07 13:37:20
      Beitrag Nr. 8.603 ()
      das ist auch noch passiert...

      noch ne super news bei einer anderen bio-sprit-bude

      freitag :laugh: +120% :laugh: Earth-Biofuels AHL7X EBOF
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      schrieb am 19.11.07 13:44:09
      Beitrag Nr. 8.604 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.479.226 von rungholt am 19.11.07 13:37:20gut die is aber auch von 2 dollar runtergeschmiert auf das niveau... da gibts wohl mehr tränen als glückliche gewinner
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      schrieb am 19.11.07 13:45:32
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.478.553 von wallyonline am 19.11.07 12:42:31Da die meisten, von den sehr positiven Zahlen, doch überrascht sein dürften, müßte es eigentlich weiter aufwärts gehen.
      Kam ja in der letzten Zeit nicht so oft vor, das GSHF so positiv überraschen konnte.;)

      Bei einem OTC-Wert kann es aber natürlich auch ganz anders kommen!:rolleyes:
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      schrieb am 19.11.07 14:15:10
      Beitrag Nr. 8.606 ()
      Die Erwartungen sind groß.
      Seit 2006 schmiert der Wert ab und es wird Zeit , dass wieder einmal Bewegung rein kommt.
      Der Bericht war nicht schlecht. Es sind Zahlen , die man in der Vergangenheit hätte gebrauchen können und die Akeie wäre nicht so immens gesunken.
      Ich bin heute wieder rein, nachdem ich das sinkende Schiff im Frühjahr verlassen hatte. Hoffen wir , dass es mal ein Stück aufwärts geht !
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      schrieb am 19.11.07 14:18:10
      Beitrag Nr. 8.607 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.479.226 von rungholt am 19.11.07 13:37:20sorry wkn: A0HL7X
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      schrieb am 19.11.07 15:05:05
      Beitrag Nr. 8.608 ()
      lol im XETRA schon 2 Cent.. +900%
      leute vertippt euch nich so oft beim kaufen :D:D
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      schrieb am 19.11.07 15:08:06
      Beitrag Nr. 8.609 ()
      ohh nee.. is doch richtig...
      lol Fehler von meiner seite.. sorry :kiss:
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      schrieb am 19.11.07 15:11:15
      Beitrag Nr. 8.610 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.480.398 von dahool23 am 19.11.07 15:08:06wer lesen kann ist besser dran :D
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      schrieb am 19.11.07 15:24:35
      Beitrag Nr. 8.611 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.480.450 von redbull99 am 19.11.07 15:11:15ich weiss..peinlich peinlich
      :D:D
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      schrieb am 19.11.07 15:25:39
      Beitrag Nr. 8.612 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.480.681 von dahool23 am 19.11.07 15:24:35Warum gabs da noch billige?
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      schrieb am 19.11.07 15:26:24
      Beitrag Nr. 8.613 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.480.681 von dahool23 am 19.11.07 15:24:35Mit den 900% nehmen wir dich beim Wort - gutes Omen für heute :laugh:

      :cool:
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      schrieb am 19.11.07 15:27:09
      Beitrag Nr. 8.614 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.480.450 von redbull99 am 19.11.07 15:11:15vorbörslich ask 0,039 $ ;)
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      schrieb am 19.11.07 15:36:07
      Beitrag Nr. 8.615 ()
      RT bitte. D A N K E!;)
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      schrieb am 19.11.07 15:37:01
      Beitrag Nr. 8.616 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.480.905 von habnurwenig am 19.11.07 15:36:07rt 0,038 $
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      schrieb am 19.11.07 15:39:19
      Beitrag Nr. 8.617 ()
      RT - C H A R T bitte. D A N K E!;)
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      schrieb am 19.11.07 15:41:12
      Beitrag Nr. 8.618 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.480.970 von habnurwenig am 19.11.07 15:39:19
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      schrieb am 19.11.07 15:43:23
      Beitrag Nr. 8.619 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.481.005 von dahool23 am 19.11.07 15:41:12Danke!;)
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      schrieb am 19.11.07 16:48:13
      Beitrag Nr. 8.620 ()
      hallo, was meint ihr gibts hier noch was zu holen die news und zahlen sind ja nicht schlecht ausgefallen
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      schrieb am 19.11.07 17:42:56
      Beitrag Nr. 8.621 ()
      Über 2,6 Mio. gehandelte Aktien bislang heute in D!:eek:

      So ein Volumen hatten wir ja ewig nicht mehr!
      +8,7% ... und das bei dem Börsenumfeld heute!;)
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      schrieb am 19.11.07 17:48:31
      Beitrag Nr. 8.622 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.483.179 von JamaicaJack am 19.11.07 17:42:56gugg auf den ammikurs.. dann vergeht dir die freude auch schnell wieder :D der deutsche kurs is unwichtig
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      schrieb am 19.11.07 18:06:59
      Beitrag Nr. 8.623 ()
      Der Ammikurs wird mit lächerlichen " Kleinbeträgen " runtergezogen !
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      schrieb am 19.11.07 18:14:49
      Beitrag Nr. 8.624 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.483.620 von Nuggettransfer am 19.11.07 18:06:59Korrekt! Mit läppischen 10.000er-Paketchen!
      OTC pur!:look:
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      schrieb am 19.11.07 18:35:28
      Beitrag Nr. 8.625 ()
      Das sind jetzt aber ein paar fiese Großverkäufe! :rolleyes:
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      schrieb am 19.11.07 19:48:49
      Beitrag Nr. 8.626 ()
      oh was machen denn die amis die zahlen waren doch gut , oder ist es ein schütteln :confused:
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      schrieb am 19.11.07 21:26:34
      Beitrag Nr. 8.627 ()
      Die Leute die jetzt verkaufen steigen dann bei 30 Cent gierig wieder ein, immer das gleiche Spielchen. Also alles halb so wild.
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      schrieb am 20.11.07 11:16:39
      Beitrag Nr. 8.628 ()
      Und jetzt ist wieder Stille angesagt :rolleyes:
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      schrieb am 20.11.07 15:23:42
      Beitrag Nr. 8.629 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.491.841 von holzschuh am 20.11.07 11:16:39sieht aber richtig gut aus in USA :cool:

      Bid 0,035
      Ask 0,04 :yawn:
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      schrieb am 20.11.07 15:39:12
      Beitrag Nr. 8.630 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.495.492 von zuzlhuba am 20.11.07 15:23:42heute kommt der 2. schub richtung 0,05 $
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      schrieb am 20.11.07 15:51:25
      Beitrag Nr. 8.631 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.495.757 von redbull99 am 20.11.07 15:39:12Schön wars !
      Eine Stabilisierung zwischen 0,035 - 0,045 wäre auch schon OK.
      Zur Zeit !!!
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      schrieb am 20.11.07 18:41:45
      Beitrag Nr. 8.632 ()
      Freut mich, dass nicht gleich wieder Schluss mit lustig ist hier! ;)
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      schrieb am 21.11.07 11:25:14
      Beitrag Nr. 8.633 ()
      Pari is knapp 26..
      warum also steht der kurs auf 20??
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      schrieb am 21.11.07 11:43:59
      Beitrag Nr. 8.634 ()
      Ist einfach nur runtergetaxt, ohne Umsatz, hat eigentlich keine Bedeutung
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      schrieb am 21.11.07 14:55:55
      Beitrag Nr. 8.635 ()
      Da hat doch tatsächlich jemand für 69 € ein paar Aktien verkauft. Was soll das denn ? Da ist die Gebühr ja schon fast höher
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      schrieb am 23.11.07 10:21:14
      Beitrag Nr. 8.636 ()
      Kursmanipulation ????
      Wer zieht den Kurs mit 4500 Stücken auf 0,20 € ?
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      schrieb am 23.11.07 10:24:47
      Beitrag Nr. 8.637 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.535.125 von Nuggettransfer am 23.11.07 10:21:14Sorry - 0,020 € !
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      schrieb am 23.11.07 18:39:52
      Beitrag Nr. 8.638 ()
      So, langsam könnte es auf 3 Eurocent gehen :cool:
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      schrieb am 23.11.07 18:43:47
      Beitrag Nr. 8.639 ()
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      schrieb am 26.11.07 15:50:39
      Beitrag Nr. 8.640 ()
      Wenn die GD 38 hält - könnte es ganz langsam mal aufwärts gehen.
      Warum eigentlich auch nicht - die Zeit ist reif !
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      schrieb am 26.11.07 16:06:03
      Beitrag Nr. 8.641 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.570.649 von Nuggettransfer am 26.11.07 15:50:39
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      schrieb am 27.11.07 12:25:30
      Beitrag Nr. 8.642 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.570.649 von Nuggettransfer am 26.11.07 15:50:39@hi nugget-Wer oder Was ist GD:confused:

      Danke für die Antwort.
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      schrieb am 27.11.07 12:41:52
      Beitrag Nr. 8.643 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.580.261 von Harry2005 am 27.11.07 12:25:30Gleitender Durchschnitt
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      schrieb am 28.11.07 08:53:05
      Beitrag Nr. 8.644 ()
      Alles sehr merkwürdig - zur Zeit.
      Wer kann sich das erklären.
      Der letzte Bericht war doch nicht schlecht und trotzdem geht es nicht
      vorwärts !
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      schrieb am 28.11.07 18:12:38
      Beitrag Nr. 8.645 ()
      ...OTC - Spielchen den ganzen Tag - nichts Kongretes !
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      schrieb am 28.11.07 21:11:26
      Beitrag Nr. 8.646 ()
      Bevor der Merger nicht mit klaren Zahlen und Fakten abgeschlossen ist ,geht hier nichts wesentliches ab.Außerdem hängt Cornell immer noch zum einsammeln drin.
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      schrieb am 29.11.07 18:14:04
      Beitrag Nr. 8.647 ()
      Leute - wir sind in Deutschland unter pari !
      Deutschland pennt zur Zeit ein wenig.
      Starre eingetreten ?
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      schrieb am 30.11.07 22:55:09
      Beitrag Nr. 8.648 ()
      Form 8-K for GREENSHIFT CORP


      --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

      30-Nov-2007

      Other Events



      ITEM 8.01 OTHER EVENTS
      On November 30, 2007 GreenShift's Board of Directors declared that GreenShift will make a distribution to the holders of record of its common stock on December 12, 2007. The distribution will consist, in total, of 2,000,000 shares of common stock of GS EnviroServices, Inc., 1,000,000,000 shares of common stock of GS Energy Corporation, and 20,800,000 shares of common stock of GS CleanTech Corporation (taking into account the 1-for-50 reverse split of GS CleanTech common stock scheduled for December 11, 2007). GreenShift expects to mail the securities to its shareholders on or about December 26, 2007.

      It is anticipated that on December 12, 2007 there will be 200,000,000 shares of GreenShift common stock outstanding. Based on that assumption, the distribution of the three securities will be made in the following proportions:

      Distribution to Distribution to
      Holder of One Holder of 10,000
      Total Shares GreenShift Share GreenShift Shares
      ------------ ---------------- -----------------
      GS EnviroServices, Inc. 2,000,000 0.01 shares 100 shares
      GS Energy Corporation 1,000,000,000 5.0 shares 50,000 shares
      GS CleanTech Corporation 20,800,000 0.104 shares 1,040 shares




      Any fractional shares that result from the distributions will be aggregated and sold by an independent agent through a broker-dealer chosen by the independent agent. Net cash proceeds of the sales will be distributed to the GreenShift shareholders in proportion to their interests in the pool of fractional shares.
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      schrieb am 03.12.07 16:21:10
      Beitrag Nr. 8.649 ()
      Zur Zeit ist ja hier zäher Handel.
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      schrieb am 03.12.07 18:46:15
      Beitrag Nr. 8.650 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.648.035 von Nuggettransfer am 03.12.07 16:21:10Hier könnt Ihr handeln:

      Rein in Bugs !!!! H Y P E :D:D:D
      ISIN: US9029881045
      WKN: 615212
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      schrieb am 06.12.07 10:19:58
      Beitrag Nr. 8.651 ()
      Man müßte den trade umbenennen in Abwärtstrade 2007 !!!
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      schrieb am 06.12.07 15:44:58
      Beitrag Nr. 8.652 ()
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      schrieb am 06.12.07 23:43:32
      Beitrag Nr. 8.653 ()
      It is anticipated that on December 12, 2007 there will be 200,000,000 shares of GreenShift common stock outstanding. Based on that assumption, the distribution of the three securities will be made in the following proportions:

      Distribution to Distribution to
      Holder of One Holder of 10,000
      Total Shares GreenShift Share GreenShift Shares
      ------------ ---------------- -----------------
      GS EnviroServices, Inc. 2,000,000 0.01 shares 100 shares
      GS Energy Corporation 1,000,000,000 5.0 shares 50,000 shares
      GS CleanTech Corporation 20,800,000 0.104 shares 1,040 shares
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      schrieb am 07.12.07 11:35:40
      Beitrag Nr. 8.654 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.691.785 von trader-911 am 06.12.07 23:43:32...und was bedeutet das genau ???
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      schrieb am 10.12.07 23:23:44
      Beitrag Nr. 8.655 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.694.755 von redbull99 am 07.12.07 11:35:40DILOUTION ohne ende :rolleyes:

      und -17,65% stateside:eek:


      Greenshift ist völlig unten durch & KK ist so gut wie Bankrott mit seine millionen wertlose anteile, gut gebunkert in sein New Yorker Keller.

      @KK-Weihnachten fällt 'dünn' aus 07?
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      schrieb am 11.12.07 11:45:39
      Beitrag Nr. 8.656 ()
      Hmm bin ja gespannt was jetzt morgen läuft...
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      schrieb am 11.12.07 22:25:26
      Beitrag Nr. 8.657 ()
      na es wird bestimmt verschoben auf nächstes Jahr........... würde mich nicht wundern
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      schrieb am 12.12.07 10:39:46
      Beitrag Nr. 8.658 ()
      GreenShift Corporation (PinkSheets:GSEN) Current Price (0.08) www.SmallCapStockAnalyst.com SANDWICH, Mass.--Dec 10-- GS EnviroServices Corporation (OTC Bulletin Board: GSEN - News) announced an Environmental Services and Management Agreement with Olson's Greenhouses, Inc. located in Raynham, MA. Olson's operates 225,000 square feet of greenhouses, 60 (sixty) acres of outdoor production and has a Class A Recycling Permit for the recycling of one million gallons per year of on-specification of oil and water. The Agreement calls for the management of marketing and environmental services for these materials and is part of GS EnviroServices' overall strategy to focus on the recycling and reuse of carbonaceous materials. GreenShift Corporation develops and supports clean technologies and companies that facilitate the efficient use of natural resources. GreenShift's ambition is to catalyze the rapid realization of disruptive environmental gains by creating valuable opportunities for a great many people and companies to use resources more efficiently and to be more profitable. Additional information on GreenShift is available online at www.greenshift.com.

      ;) :)
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      schrieb am 12.12.07 15:13:54
      Beitrag Nr. 8.659 ()
      Wie gehts weiter ?
      Offenbar gibt es eine allg. Ratlosigkeit !
      Wer kennt sich aus ?
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      schrieb am 12.12.07 15:53:50
      Beitrag Nr. 8.660 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.739.391 von Nuggettransfer am 12.12.07 15:13:54Depth/Level II for GS CleanTech Corp. New (GSCL)
      $ 1.05 1.0448(+20,092.31%):eek: Volume: 666 09:30 EST 12.12.2007

      na wer weiss villeicht bald so :laugh:
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      schrieb am 13.12.07 14:43:11
      Beitrag Nr. 8.661 ()
      GREENSHIFT CORP (U-GSHF) - News Release
      GreenShift Provides Restructuring Update

      2007-12-13 08:36 ET - News Release

      Also News Release (U-GSCL) GS CLEANTECH CORP NEW
      Also News Release (U-GSEG) GS ENERGY CORP
      Also News Release (U-GSEN) GS ENVIROSERVICES INC
      Also News Release (U-GSGF) GS AGRIFUELS CORP



      NEW YORK -- (Business Wire)

      GreenShift Corporation (OTC Bulletin Board: GSHF) today provided an update on the status of its ongoing restructuring and other efforts.

      Distributions to GreenShift Shareholders

      GreenShift shareholders of record as of December 12, 2007 will receive the following distributions:

      Distribution to Distribution to Total Holder of One Holder of 10,000 Distributed Shares GreenShift Share GreenShift Shares
      GS CleanTech
      Corporation
      (OTCBB: GSCL) 20,800,000 0.104 1,040

      GS Energy
      Corporation
      (OTCBB: GSEG) 1,000,000,000 5.000 50,000

      GS EnviroServices,
      Inc.
      (OTCBB: GSEN) 2,000,000 0.010 100
      The above distributions are being processed and certificates will be mailed to shareholders of record before year end. At the completion of these distributions, GreenShift will cease to have any direct ownership interest in GS CleanTech, GS Energy or GS EnviroServices.

      Impact of Restructuring on GS CleanTech’s Revenue and Earnings-

      On November 9, 2007, GreenShift transferred its majority stakes in GS AgriFuels and GS Energy to GS CleanTech for no additional consideration.

      Since GS CleanTech only conducted operations for the nine months ended September 30, 2007 through GS EnviroServices and its wholly-owned corn oil extraction and process engineering group, GS Ethanol Technologies, Inc., GS CleanTech’s revenues for the nine months ended September 30, 2007 were about $11,745,000. Given that GS CleanTech will consolidate the revenue and earnings of its new majority held subsidiaries under GAAP, GS CleanTech’s revenues for the nine months ended September 30, 2007 would have been about $25,120,000 if GS CleanTech had owned each of GS AgriFuels, GS EnviroServices and GS Energy since January 1, 2007.

      Similarly, GS CleanTech’s revenues and net income for the three months ended September 30, 2007 would have been $14,519,000 and $1,047,000, respectively, had GS CleanTech owned each of GS AgriFuels, GS EnviroServices and GS Energy during the third quarter.

      The following is an excerpt from GreenShift’s third quarter earnings announcement, which illustrates what GS CleanTech’s results of operations would have been for the third quarter of 2007 if GS CleanTech owned each of GS AgriFuels, GS EnviroServices and GS Energy since January 1, 2007:

      Three Months Ended September 30, 2007

      Revenues for the three months ended September 30, 2007 were $14,519,000, corresponding to an increase of about $8,567,000 or 144% over the revenues of about $5,952,000 generated during the three months ended September 30, 2006, and an increase of about $7,938,000 or 121% over the revenues of about $6,581,000 generated during the three months ended June 30, 2007. These increases were primarily the result of the growth of GS CleanTech, GS AgriFuels, GS Energy and GS EnviroServices.

      Net income from continuing operations for the three months ended September 30, 2007 was $1,047,000, as compared to a loss from continuing operations of $967,000 from the same period in 2006. Net income of $10,719,000 for the three months ended September 30, 2007 was due to increased revenues from new business initiatives, a reduction in selling, general and administrative expenses, and a reduction in amortization charges associated with financing and issuance of stock based compensation. These amounts were offset by additional expenses incurred during the third quarter relative to the Company’s various technology development activities.

      The magnitude of certain of these items is expected to be non-recurring and linked to the future effect of adjusting derivatives to market value will depend on future changes in the stock prices of the Company and its subsidiaries. To clarify the effect of these items on the Company’s results, the following table reconciles the reported net income/(loss) of the Company and its subsidiaries on an unconsolidated basis with adjusted EBITDA (a non-GAAP measure of performance) for the three months ended September 30, 2007:

      3 Months Ended 9/30/07 GreenShift GS CleanTech GS EnviroServices

      Income (Loss) $9,775,820 $(855,933) $123,842
      Interest 64,750 342,692 33,423
      Depreciation & Amortization 1,475,754 613,540 69,967
      Unrealized Gains/Losses
      on Derivatives (2,473,251) (186,909) --
      Realized Gains/Losses on Sale
      of Discontinued Operations (9,765,281) 3,069 --
      Stock-based Compensation 13,123 -- 28,999
      Other Non-recurring Items -- 540,025 --
      Taxes 25,144 1,079 25,961

      Adjusted EBITDA $(883,941) $457,563 $282,1923 Months Ended 9/30/07 GS AgriFuels GS Energy Total

      Income (Loss) $1,214,489 $461,456 $10,719,674
      Interest 1,065,356 8,238 1,514,459
      Depreciation & Amortization 758,509 -- 2,917,770
      Unrealized Gains/Losses
      on Derivatives -- -- (2,660,160)
      Realized Gains/Losses on Sale
      of Discontinued Operations -- -- (9,762,212)
      Stock-based Compensation -- -- 42,122
      Other Non-recurring Items -- -- 540,025
      Taxes 253,331 -- 305,515

      Adjusted EBITDA $3,291,685 $469,694 $3,617,193
      Nine Months Ended September 30, 2007

      During the nine months ended September 30, 2007 the activities of the Company’s subsidiaries generated about $25,120,000 million in revenue, representing an increase of $7,860,569 or 46% over the revenues of $17,260,000 million reported for the nine months ended September 30, 2006.

      Operating expenses for the nine months ended September 30, 2007 were about $15,982,000 or 64% of revenue compared to about $10,155,000, or 59% of revenue for the same period in 2006. The expenses for 2007 included about $6,092,000 in non-recurring stock based expenses. The increase in operating expenses is due primarily to increases in personnel and other overhead related to the Company’s process engineering, feedstock production, oilseed crush and equipment manufacturing operations.

      Despite the 46% increase in revenues, net loss during the nine months ended September 30, 2007 was about $12,700,000, an increase from the $9,660,000 loss recorded in the same period of 2006. The two primary reasons for the magnitude of the nine month loss were expenses attributable to the transition from technology development to mature market execution and expenses attributable to past financing activities. Specifically, during the recent nine month period the Company incurred substantial expenses attributable to:

      Technology development activities;
      One-time equity grants to employees and consultants in lieu of cash compensation; and
      Adjustments to the book value of derivatives associated with financing activities in 2005 and 2006.
      Management expects the magnitude of those three items of expense to be non-recurring, although the future effect of adjusting derivatives to market value will depend on future changes in the stock prices of the Company and its subsidiaries. To clarify the effect of these one-time charges and financing charges on the Company’s results, the following table reconciles the reported net income/(loss) of the Company and its subsidiaries on an unconsolidated basis with adjusted EBITDA (a non-GAAP measure of performance):

      9 Months Ended 9/30/07 GreenShift GS CleanTech GS EnviroServices

      Income (Loss) $(8,486,596) $252,195 $289,992
      Interest 897,043 855,059 77,702
      Depreciation & Amortization 1,135,136 2,920,612 209,902
      Unrealized Gains/Losses
      on Derivatives (669,173) (3,405,607) --
      Realized Gains/Losses on Sale
      of Discontinued Operations (323,077) (2,491,877) --
      Stock-based Compensation 3,715,594 416,751 62,267
      Other Non-recurring Items -- 540,025 --
      Taxes 25,144 1,079 112,190

      Adjusted EBITDA $(3,705,929) $(911,763) $752,0539 Months Ended 9/30/07 GS AgriFuels GS Energy Total

      Income (Loss) $(5,184,394) $394,260 $(12,734,543)
      Interest 3,025,503 54,646 4,909,953
      Depreciation & Amortization 2,240,851 -- 6.506,501
      Unrealized Gains/Losses
      on Derivatives -- -- (4,074,780)
      Realized Gains/Losses on Sale
      of Discontinued Operations -- -- (2,814,954)
      Stock-based Compensation 1,897,904 -- 6,092,516
      Other Non-recurring Items -- -- 540,025
      Taxes 253,331 -- 391,744

      Adjusted EBITDA $2,233,195 $448,906 $(1,183,538)
      Notably, GS CleanTech’s previous and new operations produced positive EBITDA during the three months ended September 30, 2007 – $3.6 million in total.

      Impact of Restructuring on GS CleanTech’s Share Structure

      GS CleanTech’s pro forma December 31, 2007 share structure is provided here:

      GS CleanTech Corporation:Fully-Diluted Pro FormaShare Structure Shares % of Total

      Authorized Common Shares 500,000,000 --
      Authorized Preferred Shares 1,000,000 --
      Issued and Outstanding
      Preferred Shares 0 0.00%
      Issued and Outstanding
      Common Shares (fully diluted) 140,000,000 100.00%
      Public Float 30,800,000 22.20%
      GS CleanTech’s fully-diluted pro forma share structure includes 10,000,000 shares reserved for issuance to GS CleanTech employees and 16,000,000 shares reserved for issuance upon the conversion of derivative securities.

      If all of GS CleanTech’s convertible securities were converted today under current market conditions and “as-is” conversion terms, the actual number of potentially issuable shares upon conversion of derivative securities would increase and would therefore increase the total pro forma shares outstanding on a fully diluted basis to about 160,000,000 at current market prices. GS CleanTech expects, however, that if or when these securities are converted, that they will be converted under conditions that are better for GS CleanTech. For example, GS CleanTech has executed a term sheet with its senior creditor, YA Global Investments, L.P., relative to amending the conversion parameters of their debt to provide for a fixed conversion price of $1.25 per share (as opposed to conversion at a discount to market prices). The pro forma share reserve stated above reflects the expected dilutive impact of the conversion of all of GS CleanTech’s convertible securities after taking these and other modifications into account.

      Additional Updates

      Additional updates will be provided over the course of the next week relating to the following:

      The completion of GreenShift’s accelerated restructuring plan;
      The status of the pending financings for GS CleanTech’s corn oil extraction systems; and,
      Additional information pertaining to GS CleanTech’s recently executed corn oil extraction agreements and other ongoing initiatives.
      About GS CleanTech Corporation

      GS CleanTech Corporation (OTC Bulletin Board: GSCL) develops and supports clean technologies and companies that facilitate the efficient use of natural resources. GS CleanTech's ambition is to catalyze the rapid realization of disruptive environmental gains by creating valuable opportunities for a great many people and companies to use resources more efficiently and to be more profitable.

      GS CleanTech Corporation owns majority stakes in each of GS AgriFuels Corporation (OTC Bulletin Board: GSGF), GS Energy Corporation (OTC Bulletin Board: GSEG) and GS EnviroServices, Inc. (OTC Bulletin Board: GSEN).

      Additional information on GS CleanTech is available online at www.gs-cleantech.com and www.greenshift.com.

      About Non-GAAP Financial Measures

      To supplement our consolidated financial statements, which statements are prepared and presented in accordance with GAAP, we use an adjusted EBITDA calculation, which is a non-GAAP financial measure. The presentation of this financial information is not intended to be considered in isolation or as a substitute for, or superior to, the financial information prepared and presented in accordance with GAAP. For more information on this non-GAAP financial measure, please see the reconciliation of Net Income (loss) (GAAP) to Adjusted EBITDA (non-GAAP) presented in the body of this release.

      We use this adjusted EBITDA (non-GAAP) for financial and operational decision-making and as a means to evaluate period-to-period comparisons. Our management believes that adjusted EBITDA (non-GAAP) provides meaningful supplemental information regarding our performance by excluding certain expenses and other non-recurring items that may not be indicative of our "recurring core business operating results," meaning our operating performance excluding not only non-cash charges, such as stock-based compensation and unrealized gains (losses) on derivatives, but also charges that are infrequent in nature. We believe that both management and investors benefit from referring to adjusted EBITDA (non-GAAP) in assessing our performance and when planning, forecasting and analyzing future periods. Adjusted EBITDA (non-GAAP) also facilitates management's internal comparisons to our historical performance as well as comparisons to our competitors' operating results. We believe adjusted EBITDA (non-GAAP) is useful to investors because it allows for greater transparency with respect to key metrics used by management in its financial and operational decision-making.

      Safe Harbor Statement

      This press release contains statements that may constitute "forward-looking statements" within the meaning of the Securities Act of 1933 and the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended by the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Those statements include statements regarding the intent, belief or current expectations of GreenShift Corporation and GS CleanTech Corporation, and members of their management as well as the assumptions on which such statements are based. Prospective investors are cautioned that any such forward-looking statements are not guarantees of future performance and involve risks and uncertainties, and that actual results may differ materially from those contemplated by such forward-looking statements. Important factors currently known to management that could cause actual results to differ materially from those in forward-statements include fluctuation of operating results, the ability to compete successfully, and the ability to complete before-mentioned transactions. The company undertakes no obligation to update or revise forward-looking statements to reflect changed assumptions, the occurrence of unanticipated events or changes to future operating results.



      Contacts:

      GreenShift Corporation, 212-994-5374
      Fax: 646-572-6336
      Email: investorrelations@greenshift.com
      Web: www.greenshift.com
      or
      Investor Relations:
      CEOcast, Inc.
      Andrew Hellman, 212-732-4300


      Source: GreenShift Corporation
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      schrieb am 13.12.07 14:53:09
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      ja schön, und was bedeutet das jetzt in Reinschrift :(
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      schrieb am 13.12.07 14:55:31
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.754.729 von Kaufmonster am 13.12.07 14:53:09Vor allem das: die ganze Restrukturierung ist endlich über die Bühne und man kann die Aufmersamkeit wieder auf andere Dinge richten.
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      schrieb am 13.12.07 16:33:30
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.754.758 von weissnichtbescheid am 13.12.07 14:55:31vor allem dem Kurs :laugh:

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      schrieb am 13.12.07 16:52:22
      Beitrag Nr. 8.665 ()
      ... was geht jetzt los ? Ausverkauf - oder was ???
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      schrieb am 13.12.07 16:56:35
      Beitrag Nr. 8.666 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.756.227 von Nuggettransfer am 13.12.07 16:52:22der Schrott ist nix wert, weniger als 1 euro cent jedenfalls :D
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      schrieb am 13.12.07 17:31:49
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.756.279 von i2fan am 13.12.07 16:56:35mist kürzlich 100.000 Shares für 2eurocent gekauft.
      Das Geld ist vielleicht weg
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      schrieb am 13.12.07 17:36:01
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.756.722 von Depotenergie am 13.12.07 17:31:49weg nicht, nur zur Zeit weniger als die Hälfte wert. Im Moment würdest du nur 0,008 in Frankfurt für kriegen.
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      schrieb am 13.12.07 17:37:19
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      warum stürzt der kurs denn heute so beschissen ab??? Stopp loss Welle? Gibt es irgendwelche wirklich schlechten news?
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      schrieb am 13.12.07 17:58:29
      Beitrag Nr. 8.670 ()
      Ich lese hier seit einem Jahr oder länger Durchhalteparolen. Vor Monaten habe ich geschrieben, daß dieser Wert Dreck ist. Ich habe ehrlich gesagt zu wenig Durchblick über die Hintergründe. Es ist eher Bauchgefühl. Doch das stetige Abnippeln des Kurses und das heutige Abkacken des Kurses geben mir doch wohl recht. Ich mache mir keine Illusioonen mehr. Die Kohle ist über den Jordan.

      Oettes
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      schrieb am 13.12.07 18:23:47
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.757.060 von Oettes am 13.12.07 17:58:29Auf der 9 gelongt.:cool:

      Gruß SGDfigther
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      schrieb am 13.12.07 18:58:18
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      Was´n heut los?

      10000 GSHF x 0,01 € und dafür 1004 GSCL x 0,4 USD

      ...sieht doch nicht schlecht aus, warum geht der Kurs so in Keller???

      www.finanznachrichten.de
      13.12.2007 14:40
      GreenShift Provides Restructuring Update

      GreenShift Corporation (Nachrichten) (OTC Bulletin Board: GSHF) today provided an update on the status of its ongoing restructuring and other efforts.

      Distributions to GreenShift Shareholders

      GreenShift shareholders of record as of December 12, 2007 will receive the following distributions:
      Distribution to Distribution to
      Total Holder of One Holder of 10,000
      Distributed Shares GreenShift Share GreenShift Shares
      GS CleanTech
      Corporation
      (OTCBB: GSCL) 20,800,000 0.104 1,040

      GS Energy
      Corporation
      (OTCBB: GSEG) 1,000,000,000 5.000 50,000

      GS EnviroServices,
      Inc.
      (OTCBB: GSEN) 2,000,000 0.010 100

      The above distributions are being processed and certificates will be mailed to shareholders of record before year end. At the completion of these distributions, GreenShift will cease to have any direct ownership interest in GS CleanTech, GS Energy or GS EnviroServices.

      Impact of Restructuring on GS CleanTech's Revenue and Earnings-

      On November 9, 2007, GreenShift transferred its majority stakes in GS AgriFuels and GS Energy to GS CleanTech for no additional consideration.

      Since GS CleanTech only conducted operations for the nine months ended September 30, 2007 through GS EnviroServices and its wholly-owned corn oil extraction and process engineering group, GS Ethanol Technologies, Inc., GS CleanTech's revenues for the nine months ended September 30, 2007 were about $11,745,000. Given that GS CleanTech will consolidate the revenue and earnings of its new majority held subsidiaries under GAAP, GS CleanTech's revenues for the nine months ended September 30, 2007 would have been about $25,120,000 if GS CleanTech had owned each of GS AgriFuels, GS EnviroServices and GS Energy since January 1, 2007.

      Similarly, GS CleanTech's revenues and net income for the three months ended September 30, 2007 would have been $14,519,000 and $1,047,000, respectively, had GS CleanTech owned each of GS AgriFuels, GS EnviroServices and GS Energy during the third quarter.

      The following is an excerpt from GreenShift's third quarter earnings announcement, which illustrates what GS CleanTech's results of operations would have been for the third quarter of 2007 if GS CleanTech owned each of GS AgriFuels, GS EnviroServices and GS Energy since January 1, 2007:

      Three Months Ended September 30, 2007

      Revenues for the three months ended September 30, 2007 were $14,519,000, corresponding to an increase of about $8,567,000 or 144% over the revenues of about $5,952,000 generated during the three months ended September 30, 2006, and an increase of about $7,938,000 or 121% over the revenues of about $6,581,000 generated during the three months ended June 30, 2007. These increases were primarily the result of the growth of GS CleanTech, GS AgriFuels, GS Energy and GS EnviroServices.

      Net income from continuing operations for the three months ended September 30, 2007 was $1,047,000, as compared to a loss from continuing operations of $967,000 from the same period in 2006. Net income of $10,719,000 for the three months ended September 30, 2007 was due to increased revenues from new business initiatives, a reduction in selling, general and administrative expenses, and a reduction in amortization charges associated with financing and issuance of stock based compensation. These amounts were offset by additional expenses incurred during the third quarter relative to the Company's various technology development activities.

      The magnitude of certain of these items is expected to be non-recurring and linked to the future effect of adjusting derivatives to market value will depend on future changes in the stock prices of the Company and its subsidiaries. To clarify the effect of these items on the Company's results, the following table reconciles the reported net income/(loss) of the Company and its subsidiaries on an unconsolidated basis with adjusted EBITDA (a non-GAAP measure of performance) for the three months ended September 30, 2007:
      3 Months Ended 9/30/07 GreenShift GS CleanTech GS
      EnviroServices

      Income (Loss) $9,775,820 $(855,933) $123,842
      Interest 64,750 342,692 33,423
      Depreciation&Amortization 1,475,754 613,540 69,967
      Unrealized Gains/Losses
      on Derivatives (2,473,251) (186,909) --
      Realized Gains/Losses on Sale
      of Discontinued Operations (9,765,281) 3,069 --
      Stock-based Compensation 13,123 -- 28,999
      Other Non-recurring Items -- 540,025 --
      Taxes 25,144 1,079 25,961

      Adjusted EBITDA $(883,941) $457,563 $282,192




      3 Months Ended 9/30/07 GS AgriFuels GS Energy Total

      Income (Loss) $1,214,489 $461,456 $10,719,674
      Interest 1,065,356 8,238 1,514,459
      Depreciation&Amortization 758,509 -- 2,917,770
      Unrealized Gains/Losses
      on Derivatives -- -- (2,660,160)
      Realized Gains/Losses on Sale
      of Discontinued Operations -- -- (9,762,212)
      Stock-based Compensation -- -- 42,122
      Other Non-recurring Items -- -- 540,025
      Taxes 253,331 -- 305,515

      Adjusted EBITDA $3,291,685 $469,694 $3,617,193

      Nine Months Ended September 30, 2007

      During the nine months ended September 30, 2007 the activities of the Company's subsidiaries generated about $25,120,000 million in revenue, representing an increase of $7,860,569 or 46% over the revenues of $17,260,000 million reported for the nine months ended September 30, 2006.

      Operating expenses for the nine months ended September 30, 2007 were about $15,982,000 or 64% of revenue compared to about $10,155,000, or 59% of revenue for the same period in 2006. The expenses for 2007 included about $6,092,000 in non-recurring stock based expenses. The increase in operating expenses is due primarily to increases in personnel and other overhead related to the Company's process engineering, feedstock production, oilseed crush and equipment manufacturing operations.

      Despite the 46% increase in revenues, net loss during the nine months ended September 30, 2007 was about $12,700,000, an increase from the $9,660,000 loss recorded in the same period of 2006. The two primary reasons for the magnitude of the nine month loss were expenses attributable to the transition from technology development to mature market execution and expenses attributable to past financing activities. Specifically, during the recent nine month period the Company incurred substantial expenses attributable to:
      Technology development activities;
      One-time equity grants to employees and consultants in lieu of cash compensation; and
      Adjustments to the book value of derivatives associated with financing activities in 2005 and 2006.

      Management expects the magnitude of those three items of expense to be non-recurring, although the future effect of adjusting derivatives to market value will depend on future changes in the stock prices of the Company and its subsidiaries. To clarify the effect of these one-time charges and financing charges on the Company's results, the following table reconciles the reported net income/(loss) of the Company and its subsidiaries on an unconsolidated basis with adjusted EBITDA (a non-GAAP measure of performance):
      9 Months Ended 9/30/07 GreenShift GS CleanTech GS
      EnviroServices

      Income (Loss) $(8,486,596) $252,195 $289,992
      Interest 897,043 855,059 77,702
      Depreciation&Amortization 1,135,136 2,920,612 209,902
      Unrealized Gains/Losses
      on Derivatives (669,173) (3,405,607) --
      Realized Gains/Losses on Sale
      of Discontinued Operations (323,077) (2,491,877) --
      Stock-based Compensation 3,715,594 416,751 62,267
      Other Non-recurring Items -- 540,025 --
      Taxes 25,144 1,079 112,190

      Adjusted EBITDA $(3,705,929) $(911,763) $752,053


      9 Months Ended 9/30/07 GS AgriFuels GS Energy Total

      Income (Loss) $(5,184,394) $394,260 $(12,734,543)
      Interest 3,025,503 54,646 4,909,953
      Depreciation&Amortization 2,240,851 -- 6.506,501
      Unrealized Gains/Losses
      on Derivatives -- -- (4,074,780)
      Realized Gains/Losses on Sale
      of Discontinued Operations -- -- (2,814,954)
      Stock-based Compensation 1,897,904 -- 6,092,516
      Other Non-recurring Items -- -- 540,025
      Taxes 253,331 -- 391,744

      Adjusted EBITDA $2,233,195 $448,906 $(1,183,538)

      Notably, GS CleanTech's previous and new operations produced positive EBITDA during the three months ended September 30, 2007 - $3.6 million in total.

      Impact of Restructuring on GS CleanTech's Share Structure

      GS CleanTech's pro forma December 31, 2007 share structure is provided here:
      GS CleanTech Corporation:
      Fully-Diluted Pro Forma
      Share Structure Shares % of Total

      Authorized Common Shares 500,000,000 --
      Authorized Preferred Shares 1,000,000 --
      Issued and Outstanding
      Preferred Shares 0 0.00%
      Issued and Outstanding
      Common Shares (fully diluted) 140,000,000 100.00%
      Public Float 30,800,000 22.20%

      GS CleanTech's fully-diluted pro forma share structure includes 10,000,000 shares reserved for issuance to GS CleanTech employees and 16,000,000 shares reserved for issuance upon the conversion of derivative securities.

      If all of GS CleanTech's convertible securities were converted today under current market conditions and “as-is“� conversion terms, the actual number of potentially issuable shares upon conversion of derivative securities would increase and would therefore increase the total pro forma shares outstanding on a fully diluted basis to about 160,000,000 at current market prices. GS CleanTech expects, however, that if or when these securities are converted, that they will be converted under conditions that are better for GS CleanTech. For example, GS CleanTech has executed a term sheet with its senior creditor, YA Global Investments, L.P., relative to amending the conversion parameters of their debt to provide for a fixed conversion price of $1.25 per share (as opposed to conversion at a discount to market prices). The pro forma share reserve stated above reflects the expected dilutive impact of the conversion of all of GS CleanTech's convertible securities after taking these and other modifications into account.

      Additional Updates

      Additional updates will be provided over the course of the next week relating to the following:
      The completion of GreenShift's accelerated restructuring plan;
      The status of the pending financings for GS CleanTech's corn oil extraction systems; and,
      Additional information pertaining to GS CleanTech's recently executed corn oil extraction agreements and other ongoing initiatives.

      About GS CleanTech Corporation

      GS CleanTech Corporation (OTC Bulletin Board: GSCL) develops and supports clean technologies and companies that facilitate the efficient use of natural resources. GS CleanTech's ambition is to catalyze the rapid realization of disruptive environmental gains by creating valuable opportunities for a great many people and companies to use resources more efficiently and to be more profitable.

      GS CleanTech Corporation owns majority stakes in each of GS AgriFuels Corporation (OTC Bulletin Board: GSGF), GS Energy Corporation (OTC Bulletin Board: GSEG) and GS EnviroServices, Inc. (OTC Bulletin Board: GSEN).

      Additional information on GS CleanTech is available online at www.gs-cleantech.com and www.greenshift.com.

      About Non-GAAP Financial Measures

      To supplement our consolidated financial statements, which statements are prepared and presented in accordance with GAAP, we use an adjusted EBITDA calculation, which is a non-GAAP financial measure. The presentation of this financial information is not intended to be considered in isolation or as a substitute for, or superior to, the financial information prepared and presented in accordance with GAAP. For more information on this non-GAAP financial measure, please see the reconciliation of Net Income (loss) (GAAP) to Adjusted EBITDA (non-GAAP) presented in the body of this release.

      We use this adjusted EBITDA (non-GAAP) for financial and operational decision-making and as a means to evaluate period-to-period comparisons. Our management believes that adjusted EBITDA (non-GAAP) provides meaningful supplemental information regarding our performance by excluding certain expenses and other non-recurring items that may not be indicative of our "recurring core business operating results," meaning our operating performance excluding not only non-cash charges, such as stock-based compensation and unrealized gains (losses) on derivatives, but also charges that are infrequent in nature. We believe that both management and investors benefit from referring to adjusted EBITDA (non-GAAP) in assessing our performance and when planning, forecasting and analyzing future periods. Adjusted EBITDA (non-GAAP) also facilitates management's internal comparisons to our historical performance as well as comparisons to our competitors' operating results. We believe adjusted EBITDA (non-GAAP) is useful to investors because it allows for greater transparency with respect to key metrics used by management in its financial and operational decision-making.

      Safe Harbor Statement

      This press release contains statements that may constitute "forward-looking statements" within the meaning of the Securities Act of 1933 and the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended by the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Those statements include statements regarding the intent, belief or current expectations of GreenShift Corporation and GS CleanTech Corporation, and members of their management as well as the assumptions on which such statements are based. Prospective investors are cautioned that any such forward-looking statements are not guarantees of future performance and involve risks and uncertainties, and that actual results may differ materially from those contemplated by such forward-looking statements. Important factors currently known to management that could cause actual results to differ materially from those in forward-statements include fluctuation of operating results, the ability to compete successfully, and the ability to complete before-mentioned transactions. The company undertakes no obligation to update or revise forward-looking statements to reflect changed assumptions, the occurrence of unanticipated events or changes to future operating results.
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      schrieb am 13.12.07 19:29:21
      Beitrag Nr. 8.674 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.757.710 von TOWE am 13.12.07 18:58:18Soweit ich das verstanden habe, bekommen wir zwar für die GSHF-Aktien Aktien der Töchter in erheblichem Mehrwert (Ca. 1150 Doller für 10.000 GSHF, bei aktuellen Kursen, ein virtueller GSHF-Kurs von 0,115$+aktuellen Kurs von 0,0x), aber die Mutter selbst hört damit de facto auf zu existieren.
      Grüße,

      AMDlong
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      schrieb am 13.12.07 19:42:17
      Beitrag Nr. 8.675 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.758.083 von AMDlong am 13.12.07 19:29:21warum wird dann heute verkauft?
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      schrieb am 13.12.07 19:48:03
      Beitrag Nr. 8.676 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.758.257 von TOWE am 13.12.07 19:42:17Unsicherheit.:cool:

      Morgen wieder 0,020:cool:
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      schrieb am 13.12.07 20:35:12
      Beitrag Nr. 8.677 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.758.333 von SGDfigther am 13.12.07 19:48:03sorry, aber das kannste leider vergessen ... lest doch einfach mal die news genauer durch ... da drin steht, dass alle aktionäre, die zum record date 12.12.investiert waren, die 'abfindung' mit den aktien der töchter bekommen ... deswegen verkaufen jetzt auch alle, weil heut schon der 13.12. ist ... und die dinger sind seit heute nix mehr wert, nix, niente, nada ... zurück bleibt einer der üblichen börsenmäntel, die darauf warten, von irgendner anderen klitsche wieder wachgeküsst zu werden, die auf diese art+weise schnell + günstig zu nem otc-listing kommen will ... ;)


      interessant wäre es jetzt zu wissen, ob diejenigen, die schon länger die aktie halten, zum tausch auch berechtigt sind, wenn sie sie gestern noch im depot hatten, heute dann aber verkauften ... aber mit solchen feinheiten kenn ich mich leider nicht sonderlich aus ... dann hätte man nämlich doppelt 'verdienen' können ... oder besser gesagt 2x schmerzensgeld beziehen ...
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      schrieb am 13.12.07 20:38:54
      Beitrag Nr. 8.678 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.758.871 von xero1972 am 13.12.07 20:35:12wie hiess die GS-tochter nochmal, die jetzt als SWVC läuft ?! ... so wird's mit GSHF im prinzip auch laufen ... ihnen fehlt halt nur noch n käufer für ne übernahme der leeren hülle ...
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      schrieb am 13.12.07 21:24:04
      Beitrag Nr. 8.679 ()
      #8658 von xero1972

      ..und genau das haben heute einige auch getan – es überrascht mich aber trotzdem, das die leere Hülle noch immer 0,01€Cent wert ist.
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      schrieb am 13.12.07 22:23:21
      Beitrag Nr. 8.680 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.759.352 von gutrix am 13.12.07 21:24:04:D ... weil's auch drüben noch etliche gibt, die den inhalt noch nicht ganz überrissen haben ... ;)
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      schrieb am 14.12.07 01:33:25
      Beitrag Nr. 8.681 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.759.972 von xero1972 am 13.12.07 22:23:21 http://finance.yahoo.com/q/is?s=GSHF.OB immerhin 10 mio für das Gesamtunternehmen Gewinn bei einer MK von ca. 2,7 mio.

      http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=GSHF.OB
      ich denke, daß GSHF mit Schulden von ca. 48,6mio $ bei cash von 1,17 mio Insolvenz anmelden wird, damit aber auch "entschuldet" ist.
      Das Pech haben die Gläubiger, das "Glück" die Altaktionäre, aber mit verwässerten Töchtern. Weiß aber nicht, ob das,selbst in USA, rechtens ist. GSHF ist jetzt eine prima Verlustabschreibung für die Steuer, die Töchter selbst scheinen ja Gewinn zu machen...

      Grüße,
      AMDlong
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      schrieb am 14.12.07 09:49:39
      Beitrag Nr. 8.682 ()
      Leider wenig Zeit gehabt die letzten Wochen. Liege ich richtig?

      1. 10000 ergeben 50200 Cleenis vor RS, gerundet Faktor 5
      2. 10000 ergeben 1004 Cleeenis nach RS
      3. Schlußkurs Cleenis gestern 0,49, wären 0,0098 vor RS
      4. Greeni Kurs müßte dann 0,049 entsprechen
      5. haben faktisch die letzten 2 Tage eine Kursverdoppelung erfahren
      6. Aktionäre mit Stichtag 12.12.2007 erhalten sozusagen in einer Art "Spinn-Off" Cleenis +.. +
      7. Wir behalten unsere bisherigen Greenis im Depot, Greeni wird Mantel


      Korrigiert mich bitte, wenn ich falsch liege.

      Frage: Wann werden die neuen cleenis eingebucht?


      Gruß
      MAnuBaby
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      schrieb am 14.12.07 10:11:04
      Beitrag Nr. 8.683 ()
      Wie läuft das Ganze jetzt ab?

      Ich habe 187500 Aktien von Greenshift!!!!!!
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      schrieb am 14.12.07 10:30:56
      Beitrag Nr. 8.684 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.762.391 von Hotstock1 am 14.12.07 10:11:04habe meine 100.000 Shares mit 50% Verlust verkauft.
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      schrieb am 14.12.07 10:38:38
      Beitrag Nr. 8.685 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.762.391 von Hotstock1 am 14.12.07 10:11:04Na ja, das Ganze wird demnächst umgebucht zu den Umtauschverhältnissen wie angeführt.

      @Depotenergie (wir kennen uns ja auch aus WWAT!;), wo es ja nun wirklich besser läuft...): Zu diesem Zeitpunkt hätte ich jetzt nicht verkauft. 2008 könnte endlich das Jahr sein, wo es los geht. Auch das spricht dafür:

      http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12…

      Ich bleibe noch bagholder, Verkauf lohnt jetzt eh' nicht. Im Gegenteil, da ist ein wenig Morgensonne am Horizont sowohl was (neu) GSCL selbst betrifft als auch was den Ethanolgesamtmarkt betrifft.
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      schrieb am 14.12.07 11:12:21
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.762.762 von weissnichtbescheid am 14.12.07 10:38:38ja wwat ist ein anderes Kaliber.
      war hier nur ein wenig Spielerei von mir.
      Ob Zeitpunkt ok ist wird man sehen - ich hab meine Verluste jedenfalls begrenzt. (50% ist natürlich reichlich)
      Ich halte auch noch etliche Shares von GS Cleantech und dort warte ich erstmal ab.
      Bleibt mir auch nix anderes übrig da der Handel ausgesetzt ist
      Gruß
      Depotenergie
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      schrieb am 14.12.07 11:21:29
      Beitrag Nr. 8.687 ()
      also so richtig versteh ich das ganze noch nicht?! :confused:

      ich hab 250.000 stück greenshift und die behalte ich anscheinend zum aktuellen kurs oder?!

      und in den nächsten tagen krieg ich ein "spinn off" ins depot eingebucht?! und was wird dann mit diesen? kann ich die verkaufen oder werden die irgendwann eingelöst???
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      schrieb am 14.12.07 11:26:03
      Beitrag Nr. 8.688 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.763.408 von redbull99 am 14.12.07 11:21:29Nein, daraus werden 26000 GS Cleantech (neu: GSCL = A0M9YC) + plus die Aktien von GS Enviro und GS Energy, die man noch bekommt.
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      schrieb am 14.12.07 12:07:13
      Beitrag Nr. 8.689 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.763.475 von weissnichtbescheid am 14.12.07 11:26:03achso okay.
      und ab wann kann man die GS Cleantech handeln ???
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      schrieb am 14.12.07 12:10:18
      Beitrag Nr. 8.690 ()
      ...und die Gshft nhast du dann aber auch noch im Depot, vorerst steht nirgens das die liqidiert werden, und da sie auch gestern und auch weiterhin gehandelt werden bleibt GSHF im Depot, wenn auch als leere Hülle.

      Allerdings kann man diese Leere Hülle verkaufen oder mit neuen Investoren neu befüllen etc. Weiters kann es sein dass GSHFT noch die Patente für die diversen Techniken besitzt – da bin ich mir aber nicht sicher. Wisst Ihr was?

      ...und so wie ich KK kenne kommt da noch was bezüglich GSHFT. Eigentlich hat er das ganz geschickt gemacht – den Cornell hat GSHFT ständig und absichtlich unter Wert gehalten, mit der Distribution besitzen die nun nur mehr eine leer Holding – quasi die Rache des KK.
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      schrieb am 14.12.07 12:13:27
      Beitrag Nr. 8.691 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.764.001 von redbull99 am 14.12.07 12:07:13In den USA schon jetzt, hier weiß ich nicht.
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      schrieb am 14.12.07 12:14:29
      Beitrag Nr. 8.692 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.764.043 von gutrix am 14.12.07 12:10:18Interessante Interpretation! :rolleyes:
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      schrieb am 14.12.07 12:18:53
      Beitrag Nr. 8.693 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.764.081 von weissnichtbescheid am 14.12.07 12:13:27und habt ihr schon irgendwas eingebucht bekommen ins depot?
      oder wann soll das alles über die bühne gehen???
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      schrieb am 14.12.07 12:22:30
      Beitrag Nr. 8.694 ()
      um den 26.12 herum
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      schrieb am 14.12.07 13:14:57
      Beitrag Nr. 8.695 ()
      hallo in die runde! bin seit 2 jahren dabei und hab 100000 greenshift und 700000 gsct. Der Buchverlust ist unwichtig da ich beide werte bei über 10 us cent gekauft habe :cry:

      hätte jemand nochmal kurz geduld mir zu erklären was mit meinen aktien jetzt passiert ist??

      vielen dank!
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      schrieb am 14.12.07 13:58:07
      Beitrag Nr. 8.696 ()
      kannst du i9m tread oben nachlesen.

      Denke heute kommts noch mal zu einem Kursmasaker, da nun die letzten kapiert haben, das Greenshift mur mehr eine leere Hülle ist (die Töchter werden ja den Aktionären die am 12.12. 2007 "recorded" waren zugeteilt).

      Man sollte die GHSF verkaufen, da dies eigentlich der Bonus ist. Alle die bis 12.12 Aktien von GHSF hatten werden die Töchter zugeteilt, egal ob man am 13.12 die noch hatte oder nicht. Den GSHF Verkaufswert nach 12.12 sehe ich als Bonus an, da die Hülle GSHF ja eigentlich keinerlei Wert besitzt (eher Schulden drauf).
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      schrieb am 14.12.07 14:09:58
      Beitrag Nr. 8.697 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.764.154 von redbull99 am 14.12.07 12:18:53bei mir noch nichts passiert

      98degrees: aus Deinen 100000 GSHF werden 10400 GSCL, aus Deinen 700000 GSCT werden 14000 GSCL und für Deine GSHF Aktien auch noch eine Anzahl GS Energy und GS Enviro.
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      schrieb am 14.12.07 14:13:54
      Beitrag Nr. 8.698 ()
      ...wird auch erst um den 26.12 eingebucht, aber der Stichtag war 12.12.

      GSHFT hast du ja dann weiter im Depot, wenn auch als leere Hülle wie gesagt
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      schrieb am 14.12.07 14:27:04
      Beitrag Nr. 8.699 ()
      ...hoffe ich seh das alles richtig –sicher bin ich mir da nicht. Es macht mich zB stutzig das es noch immer leute gibt die GSHF kaufen (nach dem 12.12) – wozu das gut sein soll weiß ich aber nicht wirklich
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      schrieb am 14.12.07 14:28:25
      Beitrag Nr. 8.700 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.765.613 von gutrix am 14.12.07 14:27:04Das versteh' ich auch nicht! :confused:
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      schrieb am 14.12.07 14:49:46
      Beitrag Nr. 8.701 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.765.429 von weissnichtbescheid am 14.12.07 14:09:58@weissnichtbescheid: vielen herzlichen dank! hab kk immer bei den conference calls zugehört und verstanden aber das hier hab ich nicht geblickt.. vielen dank nochmal!
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      schrieb am 14.12.07 15:47:31
      Beitrag Nr. 8.702 ()
      GSCL quartalszahlen zum 30.09.2007 sind draußen.


      Wir werrden die nächsten Jahre noch viel Freude haben mit unseren Veri´s.


      P.S: Tom Seawydingbums krallt sich vielleicht den Greeni-Mantel und macht Pommesbuden-Kette auf.
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      schrieb am 14.12.07 16:15:50
      Beitrag Nr. 8.703 ()
      wieder was zu lesen:

      gshf (.0136) gsgf (.42) gsen (.06) gseg (.0004) gscl (.4) GreenShift Releases Restructuring Update

      Friday, December 14 2007 10:03 AM, EST Business Wire "US Press Releases "
      NEW YORK --(BUSINESS WIRE)--
      GreenShift Corporation (OTC Bulletin Board: GSHF) ("GSHF") today provided an update on the status of its ongoing restructuring and other efforts.
      GS CleanTech Operations Moving Forward and Name Change
      GS CleanTech Corporation (OTC Bulletin Board: GSCL) now holds the operating and other assets formerly held by GSHF. These operations include majority stakes in each of GS AgriFuels Corporation , GS Energy Corporation and GS EnviroServices, Inc. GS CleanTech also owns GS Ethanol Technologies, Inc. , its wholly-owned corn oil extraction and process engineering subsidiary.
      GS CleanTech will adopt GSHF's business model moving forward, and will develop and support clean technologies and companies that enhance resource utilization by targeting and leveraging co-product extraction, beneficiation and refining opportunities, and on developing the partnerships and other resources required to bring its technologies to market. Consequently, GS CleanTech will change its name to GREENSHIFT CORPORATION in January 2008 .
      GS CleanTech's immediate term focus will continue to be resolved on sales and earnings growth through the deployment and commissioning of corn oil extraction systems, the sale of biodiesel equipment, the financing, construction and operation of corn oil biodiesel production facilities, the expansion and operation of the GS AgriFuels' oilseed crush plant, the growth of GS EnviroServices' environmental services group, and the growth of its design and manufacturing group. GS CleanTech also plans to seek out additional independent strategic board representation in early 2008.
      GS CleanTech's revenues and net income for the three months ended September 30, 2007 would have been $14,519,000 and $1,047,000 , respectively, had GS CleanTech owned each of GS AgriFuels, GS EnviroServices and GS Energy during the third quarter.
      GS CleanTech expects its financial results for the fourth quarter of 2007 to be consistent with the trend set during the third quarter by each of its operating companies from before they were transferred to GS CleanTech.
      GSHF Operations Moving Forward and Name Change
      GSHF will change its name to GS PROJECT CORPORATION in January 2008 . Starting in 2008, its business model will be based on providing project financing and other support for qualified renewable fuels and energy and energy efficiency projects for third party clients utilizing GS CleanTech technologies, equipment and/or services.
      While GS Project's primary goal will be to generate income from any investments that it makes, GS Project's focus will be to provide financial support in ways that facilitate more sales of GS CleanTech technologies, equipment and/or services. GS Project plans to hire new senior management with experience in project development and finance as soon as possible.
      GS Energy Operations Moving Forward, Recapitalization and Name Change
      GS Energy Corporation's (OTC Bulletin Board: GSEG) will change its name to GS ECOSYSTEM CORPORATION in January 2008 . Its business model moving forward will be dedicated to research and development for emerging clean technologies with an initial focus on bringing cost-effective implementations of bioreactor technology to market.
      GS Energy's commercialization plan for bioreactor technology is based on the synergistic integration of several chemical, mechanical and biological processes designed to efficiently balance resource consumption and production in ways that are modeled after the dynamic efficiencies of natural ecosystems with an ultimate goal of reforming carbon dioxide and methane into value-added products. GS Energy's name change to GS EcoSystem reflects this model and the shift in GS Energy's focus.
      Key initial goals for GS EcoSystem during 2008 are to finish its partially-constructed pilot bioreactor, raise the capital needed to build a commercial-scale pilot bioreactor facility, and to hire new senior management to oversee research and development and the commercialization process for GS EcoSystem technology.
      Given its early stage of development and absence of convertible debt, GS Energy will be recapitalized as soon as possible with a view towards raising venture capital to support the development of its technology. GS Energy will complete a 1 for 500 reverse stock split, at the completion of which GS Energy will have no preferred shares outstanding and about 50 million common shares outstanding, 40 million of which will be owned by GS CleanTech and 10 million of which will be owned by GS Energy's minority shareholders in the public float.
      Additional Updates
      Additional updates will be provided over the course of the next week relating to the following:
      -- The completion of GreenShift's accelerated restructuring plan;

      -- The status of the pending financings for GS CleanTech's corn
      oil extraction systems; and,

      -- Additional information pertaining to GS CleanTech's recently
      executed corn oil extraction agreements and other ongoing
      initiatives.

      About GS CleanTech Corporation

      GS CleanTech Corporation (OTC Bulletin Board: GSCL) develops and supports clean technologies and companies that facilitate the efficient use of natural resources. GS CleanTech's ambition is to catalyze the rapid realization of disruptive environmental gains by creating valuable opportunities for a great many people and companies to use resources more efficiently and to be more profitable. GS CleanTech Corporation owns majority stakes in each of GS AgriFuels Corporation (OTC Bulletin Board: GSGF), GS Energy Corporation (OTC Bulletin Board: GSEG) and GS EnviroServices, Inc. (OTC Bulletin Board: GSEN). Additional information on GS CleanTech is available online at www.gs-cleantech.com and www.greenshift.com.
      Safe Harbor Statement
      This press release contains statements that may constitute "forward-looking statements" within the meaning of the Securities Act of 1933 and the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended by the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Those statements include statements regarding the intent, belief or current expectations of GreenShift Corporation , GS CleanTech Corporation , GS AgriFuels Corporation , GS Energy Corporation and GS EnviroServices, Inc. , and members of their management as well as the assumptions on which such statements are based. Prospective investors are cautioned that any such forward-looking statements are not guarantees of future performance and involve risks and uncertainties, and that actual results may differ materially from those contemplated by such forward-looking statements. Important factors currently known to management that could cause actual results to differ materially from those in forward-statements include fluctuation of operating results, the ability to compete successfully, and the ability to complete before-mentioned transactions. The company undertakes no obligation to update or revise forward-looking statements to reflect changed assumptions, the occurrence of unanticipated events or changes to future operating results.
      Source: GS CleanTech Corporation
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      schrieb am 14.12.07 16:19:48
      Beitrag Nr. 8.704 ()
      Hat da noch einer den Durchblick ?
      :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
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      schrieb am 14.12.07 17:01:52
      Beitrag Nr. 8.705 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.766.994 von axcol am 14.12.07 16:19:48Na ja, wäre ja ein Wunder, wenn KK mit seiner Lieblingsbeschäftigung nun ganz aufhören würde. Es hört sich aber alles ganz vernünftig an. Er führt die ganze Sache einfach zu Ende und das sehr bald, und man kann hoffen, dass dann Ruhe ist.
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      schrieb am 14.12.07 18:08:07
      Beitrag Nr. 8.706 ()
      http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/home/index.jsp?epi-c…

      Im Januar 2008 ändert GREENSHIFT CORPORATION ihren Namen in GS PROJEKT CORPORATION.:confused:
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      schrieb am 17.12.07 11:01:38
      Beitrag Nr. 8.707 ()
      Also kann ich jetzt meine Greenies verkaufen oder nicht ? woher wissen die dann das ich Tochteranteile zu bekommen habe ? Was wenn die mich vergessen, wie kann ich dann nachweisen das ich welche am 12.12 hatte ?
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      schrieb am 17.12.07 18:46:38
      Beitrag Nr. 8.708 ()
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      schrieb am 17.12.07 20:33:23
      Beitrag Nr. 8.709 ()
      Press Release Source: GreenShift Corporation

      GreenShift Provides Update on Distribution
      Monday December 17, 10:59 am ET

      NEW YORK--(BUSINESS WIRE)--GreenShift Corporation (OTC Bulletin Board: GSHF - News) today provided an update to its shareholders regarding the status of its pending distribution.

      As previously announced, GreenShift shareholders of record as of December 12, 2007 will receive the following distributions:

      Distribution to Distribution to
      Total Holder of One Holder of 10,000
      Distributed Shares GreenShift Share GreenShift Shares

      GS CleanTech Corporation (OTCBB: GSCL - News)


      20,800,000 0.104 1,040

      GS Energy Corporation (OTCBB: GSEG - News)


      1,000,000,000 5.000 50,000

      GS EnviroServices, Inc. (OTCBB: GSEN - News)






      2,000,000
      0.010 100

      This distribution is being made to GreenShift shareholders of record as of December 12, 2007. However, because shares are being distributed, the ex-dividend date for this distribution will be the date on which the certificates are actually mailed to the shareholders.

      While the distributions are currently being processed, GreenShift expects to mail the certificates to its shareholders on or about December 26, 2007. The exact mailing date will be announced once all three securities are ready for distribution.

      In order to retain the distribution, GreenShift shareholders of record as of December 12, 2007 will need to hold their GreenShift shares until the mailing date.

      Any GreenShift shareholder who held shares as of December 12, 2007 but then sells GreenShift shares between December 13, 2007 and the mailing date will be required to deliver the distributed shares to the purchaser when they are received. The delivery of the distributed shares will be accomplished by the seller’s broker.

      Likewise, any GreenShift shareholder that purchased GreenShift shares on or after December 13, 2007 and then holds their GreenShift shares until after the mailing date will be entitled to be the final recipient of the distributed shares.

      Any questions pertaining to the distribution should be emailed to GreenShift at investorrelations@greenshift.com.


      ...hätte man wohl doch nicht verkaufen sollen. Ich jedenfalls habe meine behalten. Hatte schon so was dunkel geahnt...
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      schrieb am 17.12.07 20:41:00
      Beitrag Nr. 8.710 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.788.925 von holzschuh am 17.12.07 11:01:38also das heißt, wenn Du jetzt deine Aktien verkaufst, mußt Du die Anteile an den Töchtern wieder abgeben... also eher nicht :cool:
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      schrieb am 17.12.07 22:27:32
      Beitrag Nr. 8.711 ()

      jetzt haben es wohl auch ein paar Leute drüben begriffen :laugh:
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      schrieb am 17.12.07 23:41:17
      Beitrag Nr. 8.712 ()
      Na super, und ich habe heute verkauft. Aber diese GSCL bekomme ich doch, oder ?
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      schrieb am 18.12.07 08:13:02
      Beitrag Nr. 8.713 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.797.697 von holzschuh am 17.12.07 23:41:17du hast gestern einfach nur verkauft weil hier im thread irgendsoein "spezialist" gesagt hat das die greenshift-aktien nix mehr wert sind?!

      ich lach mich echt schlapp :laugh:
      dann bist du aber selbst schuld!!!

      informier dich lieber vorher selbst genau und hör nicht gleich auf irgendwelches geschwätz!
      ich hab meine behalten und werd sie auch weiterhin halten denn für 2008 siehts ganz gut aus ;)
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      schrieb am 18.12.07 11:19:49
      Beitrag Nr. 8.714 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.798.474 von redbull99 am 18.12.07 08:13:02Spott und Ratschläge sind ja schön und gut, aber beantworten meine Frage nicht. Bekomme ich jetzt diese GSCL oder nicht ?
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      schrieb am 18.12.07 12:13:53
      Beitrag Nr. 8.715 ()
      Also alles wieder unklar wie immer:

      aber soweit ich das verstehe, ist es so, dass man auch berechtigt ist, wenn man nach dem 13.12 gekauft hat:

      Likewise, any GreenShift shareholder that purchased GreenShift shares on or after December 13, 2007 and then holds their GreenShift shares until after the mailing date will be entitled to be the final recipient of the distributed shares.

      ....aber auch berechtigt ist wenn man die Papiere nur bis 12.12 gehalten hat:

      Any GreenShift shareholder who held shares as of December 12, 2007 but then sells GreenShift shares between December 13, 2007 and the mailing date will be required to deliver the distributed shares to the purchaser when they are received. The delivery of the distributed shares will be accomplished by the seller´s broker.

      ...hab ich das richtig verstanden oder ist das falsch-die Englischspeziallisten sind nun gefragt
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      schrieb am 18.12.07 12:22:07
      Beitrag Nr. 8.716 ()
      Also ich habe das Ganze so verstanden, wer am 12.12. die Aktien hatte bekommt in GSCL umgetauscht. Wer den Mantel noch weiter hält bekommt noch diverse Töchter dazu. Kann das jemand bestätigen oder mir sagen wie es jetzt wirklich ist ?
      Man kann aber auch abwarten, der 26.12 ist ja bald :D
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      schrieb am 18.12.07 12:31:59
      Beitrag Nr. 8.717 ()
      ich glaube das werden wir so leicht nicht rausfinden, es ist für mich nicht mal klar wen die mit purchaser meinen??:mad:
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      schrieb am 18.12.07 12:40:36
      Beitrag Nr. 8.718 ()
      verstehe auch den Satz >will be required to deliver the distributed shares to the purchaser when they are received> nicht
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      schrieb am 18.12.07 12:42:57
      Beitrag Nr. 8.719 ()
      ...aber mit disteributed shares sind wohl alle Töchter gemeint
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      schrieb am 18.12.07 13:05:37
      Beitrag Nr. 8.720 ()
      also das scheint so zu sein.

      "dividende ex Tag" ist der Anlieferungstag also der 26.12. Hat man jetzt nach dem 12.12 verkauft muß man die distributed shares dem Einkäufer übermitteln (das macht der broker) – man bekommt also nichts.

      das bedeutet aber wiederum wenn man nach dem 12.12 gekauft hat und bis 26.12 (mailing date) hält, ist man quasi einkäufer (käufer) und bekommt die distributed shares quasi vom verkäufer.

      wenn ich das richtig verstehe?????!!!! Das würde wiederum bedeuten, das das mit 12.12 ein großer fake war und eigentlich genau das gegenteil bewirkt wie es im SEC filling steht.

      .....fucking KK - die einzige möglichkeit ist also der Rückkauf vor dem mailing date um die Töchter zu erhalten sofern man nach dem 12.12 verkauft hat.
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      schrieb am 18.12.07 13:37:41
      Beitrag Nr. 8.721 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.801.704 von gutrix am 18.12.07 13:05:37Wenigstens einer ders blickt:yawn::yawn::yawn::yawn::yawn::yawn:
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      schrieb am 18.12.07 15:09:43
      Beitrag Nr. 8.722 ()
      Nix für ungut, aber ich würde Leuten, die nicht der englischen Sprache mächtig sind, davon abraten gewisse Aktien zu handeln.

      In Aktienforen (in D sowie in USA) wird teils ein totaler Blödsinn geposted, da sollte man grundsätzlich nichts glauben, was man selber nicht eindeutig nachvollziehen kann.

      Vielleicht hat der KK den Kursverfall ausgenutzt, kräftig eingekauft und nun schanzt er sich die Tochteraktien zu :laugh:.
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      schrieb am 18.12.07 16:08:04
      Beitrag Nr. 8.723 ()
      Was ist denn nun los???:eek::D:eek:

      +250% auf 0,035$ bei den Amis!:eek:

      Ich habe zum Glück auch noch nicht verkauft!;)
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      schrieb am 18.12.07 16:22:05
      Beitrag Nr. 8.724 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.803.221 von PZocker am 18.12.07 15:09:43Hallo PZocker

      dann erzähl uns mal wie du die Sache mit GSHF siehst:look:

      wenigstens einer der den Durchblick hier hat:D:cool:
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      schrieb am 18.12.07 16:31:48
      Beitrag Nr. 8.725 ()
      ... wo geht die Reise hin ?
      Todgesagte leben länger oder wie soll man das verstehen ???
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      schrieb am 18.12.07 16:33:09
      Beitrag Nr. 8.726 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.804.531 von zuzlhuba am 18.12.07 16:22:05Hier schnallt es so gut wie keiner.

      Kursverfall letzte Woche lag daran, daß jeder gedacht hat, daß Greeni jetzt ein Mantel sei.


      Aufgrund der kommende EX-Div braucht Greeni einen gewissen wert, damit sie am 26.12 nicht 0,00000000000000000000000000000000001 wert ist:laugh::laugh::laugh:

      Wer am 13.12. verkauft hat ist selbst schuld.:laugh::laugh::laugh:
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      schrieb am 18.12.07 16:35:21
      Beitrag Nr. 8.727 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.804.349 von JamaicaJack am 18.12.07 16:08:04Da war die Euphorie wohl zu groß!
      Es waren natürlich nur +150% bei 0,035$!
      RT nun 0,030$ + 114,3%:lick:
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      schrieb am 18.12.07 16:48:10
      Beitrag Nr. 8.728 ()
      So ich kläre das mal auf, wie ich es verstanden habe. Wer am 12. dez Gshf im Depot hat bekommt dementsprechend die Töchter zugeteilt interessant ist aber nur GSCL im Verhältnis von gerundet 10:1. Wer jetzt allerdings nach dem 12. verkauft hat muß die ihm zugeteilten Aktien die er am 26. bekommt an den Käufer seiner GSHF weiterleiten, macht die Bank aber automatisch. Das heißt, wer jetzt kauft bekommt auch die Töchter deshalb gleicht sich der GSHF Kurs jetzt dem GSCL Kurs im Verhältnis von etwa 10:1 an. GSCL steht bei etwa 0,27 $. So ich hoffe es hat jetzt jeder Verstanden.
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      schrieb am 18.12.07 17:00:54
      Beitrag Nr. 8.729 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.804.911 von jokma am 18.12.07 16:48:10So genau stimmt das auch nicht, denn wir bekommen noch 2 weitere Töchter von Greeni zugeteilt. Greeni selbst sollte bzw. müßte höher sein wie die Veris
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      schrieb am 18.12.07 17:13:47
      Beitrag Nr. 8.730 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.805.064 von ManuBaby am 18.12.07 17:00:54Stimmt es gibt zwei weitere Töchter aber da das Umtauschverhältnis bzw. der Kurs der weiteren Töchter so gering ist kann man diese vernachlässigen bei 10000 Stück GSHF bringen die beiden Töchter zusammen ungefähr 10 Euro ins Depot.
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      schrieb am 18.12.07 17:30:37
      Beitrag Nr. 8.731 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.805.254 von jokma am 18.12.07 17:13:47Das wirde sik nok zeigen!

      Ikke bin raus une denke, es wird neue meldung gebe!
      Wer am 12.12 hat der darf behalte! Wär die normalfalle!
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      schrieb am 18.12.07 17:44:35
      Beitrag Nr. 8.732 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.805.254 von jokma am 18.12.07 17:13:47die sind millionen wert:lick:
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      schrieb am 18.12.07 17:52:45
      Beitrag Nr. 8.733 ()
      Ich bin auch mal gespannt hatte auch schon früher welche habe dann gestern auch verkauft, weil ich mich nicht richtig informiert hatte. Habe aber am 12. welche im Depot gehabt. Jetzt habe ich heute um 15:38 welche gekauft, weil ich es verstanden hatte und habe diese um 16:00 Uhr wieder verkauft mit 60 % Gewinn. Wenn ich jetzt aus irgendeinem Grund noch Töchter bekommen solle wäre das der Deal des Jahres gewesen.
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      schrieb am 18.12.07 18:06:47
      Beitrag Nr. 8.734 ()
      Pari ist 0,0198€ und da wird für 17 verkauft:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
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      schrieb am 18.12.07 19:18:09
      Beitrag Nr. 8.735 ()
      aha, sieht aus, als wäre die hype vorbei.

      Ikke glaub, dass die meldung nit riktig isse...
      es kann nit sein eine tag auszulobe, dann verkaufe all unn dann kommt die zung heraus unne makt "Bäh, alles nur grosse spass".
      Sowas isse net ok, unn gar nit nette.
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      schrieb am 19.12.07 09:57:41
      Beitrag Nr. 8.736 ()
      Rekord day isse angeblik die Tag der zählt, darübber hinaus isse freiwillig, hadde mir einer erklärt, der damit zu tun hadde.

      Hoffentlik stimmet das! DAnn wär die Meldung abber quatsch!
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      schrieb am 19.12.07 10:01:18
      Beitrag Nr. 8.737 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.811.554 von donvincente am 19.12.07 09:57:41Normalerweise muß der 12.12 zählen. Wenn ich zB Daimler Aktien zu einem Stichtag halte, bekomme ich auch die Dividende. Da kann ich die auch am nächsten Tag verkaufen.
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      schrieb am 19.12.07 10:17:21
      Beitrag Nr. 8.738 ()
      Da gebe ich euch Recht, normalerweise zählt der 12.12. aber vielleicht ist es eine juristische Spitzfindigkeit, weil ja alle Aktionäre die Aktien am 12. im Depot hatten ja auch die Töchter bekommen, Sie müssen diese allerdings sofort wieder an den Käufer Ihrer GSHF abgeben. Das wurde allerdings erst später bekannt, deshalb könnte das noch zu einem Rechtsstreit kommen, sollte jemand eine größere Summe dadurch verloren haben, aber bei dem Volumen glaube ich das ehrlich gesagt nicht.
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      schrieb am 19.12.07 12:10:57
      Beitrag Nr. 8.739 ()
      also der 12.12 ist eigentlich wurscht. Dividende richtet sich eigentlich nach dem Ex Tag. Also wer am Ex Tag die Teile besitzt bekommt Dividende.

      Nun ist es aber so, dass wenn man nach dem 12.12 verkauft hat und nachher wieder zukauft (vor dem ExTag) – lt der letzten Meldung (Likewise, any GreenShift shareholder that purchased GreenShift shares on or after December 13, 2007 and then holds their GreenShift shares until after the mailing date will be entitled to be the final recipient of the distributed shares)– man Aktien besitzt, die vorher (am 12.12) auch wer bessesen haben muß und somit der Verkäufer die Dividende an den Käufer weiterleiten muß, man also trotzdem (sofern man sie bis nach dem ExTag behält) Dividendenberechtigt ist.

      Dividende hängt an der Aktie nicht an der Person.

      Sehe ich das richtig, wieweit das rechtlich ok ist weiß ich nicht.
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      schrieb am 19.12.07 13:04:29
      Beitrag Nr. 8.740 ()
      siehe auch Begriff: Cum dividend
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      schrieb am 19.12.07 14:27:18
      Beitrag Nr. 8.741 ()
      ... geht der Kurs nun weiter hoch oder gibts einen Richtung Süden ?
      Was meint Ihr ?
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      schrieb am 19.12.07 14:36:46
      Beitrag Nr. 8.742 ()
      Stimmt es hängt an der Aktie und nicht an der Person, das sehe ich auch so, aber für mich hat sich das hier sowieso erledigt, da ich gestern durch eine Daytraidingaktion meine Verluste ausgeglichen habe, bin aber jetzt nicht mehr investiert. Aber der Kurs hängt jetzt eigentlich nur vom GSCL KURS hab. Bewegt der sich nicht wird sich auch hier nichts bewegen ganz einfach weil diese Aktien werden wir für die GSHF bekommen im Verhältnis 10 GSHF für 1 GSCL gerundet.
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      schrieb am 19.12.07 15:07:52
      Beitrag Nr. 8.743 ()
      Heute UFFFFFFFFFFFFPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


      Heut wird man Kurse über 0,030$ sehen.
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      schrieb am 19.12.07 15:22:29
      Beitrag Nr. 8.744 ()
      Blödsinn
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      schrieb am 19.12.07 15:26:49
      Beitrag Nr. 8.745 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.815.264 von gutrix am 19.12.07 15:22:29Wirst schon sehen.

      Gestern wurde bei GSCL nur ein Taschengeld umgesetzt. Es kann sehr schnell gehen. Perfektes Instrument um GSHF zu manipulieren.;);););););););););)
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      schrieb am 19.12.07 15:37:44
      Beitrag Nr. 8.746 ()
      Ich gebe ManuBaby da recht GSCL hat ne sehr große BID ASK Spanne und da kann mit wenig Geld der GSHF Kurs stark bewegt werden, ist aber nur was für Daytrader und Zocker jetzt. Aber ich gehöre DAZU:laugh:
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      schrieb am 19.12.07 15:41:51
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      schrieb am 19.12.07 15:50:08
      Beitrag Nr. 8.748 ()
      :keks:
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      schrieb am 19.12.07 15:56:19
      Beitrag Nr. 8.749 ()
      Pari fas 23€ cent. richtig günstig hier in D:D:D:D:D Werden bald noch viel teurer:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
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      schrieb am 19.12.07 15:59:34
      Beitrag Nr. 8.750 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.815.785 von ManuBaby am 19.12.07 15:56:19Ne ist uninteressant der GSCL Kurs wurde mit 150 Stück auf 0,34 künstlich hochgeschraubt, das sind ganze 51 Dollar Umsatz. Das Umsatzvolumen von GSHF in Deutschland und in den USA und das von GSCL ist viel zu niedrig um da nen schönen ZOCK zu versuchen.
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      schrieb am 20.12.07 01:47:37
      Beitrag Nr. 8.751 ()
      This distribution is being made to GreenShift shareholders of record as of December 12, 2007. However, because shares are being distributed, the ex-dividend date for this distribution will be the date on which the certificates are actually mailed to the shareholders.

      While the distributions are currently being processed, GreenShift expects to mail the certificates to its shareholders on or about December 26, 2007. The exact mailing date will be announced once all three securities are ready for distribution.

      In order to retain the distribution, GreenShift shareholders of record as of December 12, 2007 will need to hold their GreenShift shares until the mailing date.

      Any GreenShift shareholder who held shares as of December 12, 2007 but then sells GreenShift shares between December 13, 2007 and the mailing date will be required to deliver the distributed shares to the purchaser when they are received. The delivery of the distributed shares will be accomplished by the seller’s broker.

      Likewise, any GreenShift shareholder that purchased GreenShift shares on or after December 13, 2007 and then holds their GreenShift shares until after the mailing date will be entitled to be the final recipient of the distributed shares.

      IMHO: das wird Klagen nach sich ziehen, unverschämt, selbst für eine OTC-Klitsche. Gezielte Desinformation, nur um aus Börsenhüllen
      den letzten Rest herauszuquetschen...,
      aber die U.S.A. sind ja das Land der "unbegrenzten Möglichkeiten"
      ich halte hier immer noch ein paar shares nur, um etwas dazuzu lernen...
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      schrieb am 20.12.07 11:48:22
      Beitrag Nr. 8.752 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.821.642 von AMDlong am 20.12.07 01:47:37Da steht doch ganz klar, wer am 12.12 die Aktie hat bekommt am 26.12. den Ersatz. Erst später wurde bekannt gegeben das man dazu die Aktie noch halten muß. Aslo : Wer nimmt die Sammelklage in die Hand ?
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      schrieb am 20.12.07 12:56:53
      Beitrag Nr. 8.753 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.824.330 von holzschuh am 20.12.07 11:48:22Sammelklage?????????:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

      nur Nullckecker unterwegs.


      Ich glaube immer mehr, daß hier wirklich keiner eine Ahnung hat, auf was er sich bei der Greeni-Family eingelassen hat.

      :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
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      schrieb am 20.12.07 13:43:39
      Beitrag Nr. 8.754 ()
      noch mal, das ist völlig normal und legal. Zwischen 12.12 (record day) und 26.12 (ex div day) wird die Aktie cum dividend gehandelt.

      Es stimmt, man hätte das klarer und vor allem im Vorfeld kommunizieren können - aber das ist schon rechtens so.
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      schrieb am 20.12.07 13:52:33
      Beitrag Nr. 8.755 ()
      .... und du kannst sie dir jetzt auch noch kaufen und bekommst die Töchter, wo ist das Problem?
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      schrieb am 20.12.07 15:20:21
      Beitrag Nr. 8.756 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.825.848 von gutrix am 20.12.07 13:52:33Habe ja vor 2 Tagen geschrieben, daß du einer von wenigen bist, die es checken.



      Ausblick 2008: Ethanol Africa Produktionsstart, Firma Uhde (Tochter Thyssen ) baut Anlage mit Veri-System. Weiter 7 Anlagen geplant.

      Ab 2008 wird geerntet


      :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
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      schrieb am 20.12.07 15:32:09
      Beitrag Nr. 8.757 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.826.979 von ManuBaby am 20.12.07 15:20:21...ab 2008 wird geerntet - obs stimmt ?
      Da bin ich mir noch nicht ganz so sicher, ob es eine reichliche Ernte wird.
      Es wird vorwärts gehen - 2008 aber eher erst mal verhalten.
      Schauen wir allerdings 2 - 3 Jahre weiter - KONNTE ES SCHON WAS WERDEN !!!
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      schrieb am 21.12.07 10:14:14
      Beitrag Nr. 8.758 ()
      heute letzte Chance um an die Töchter zu kommen. 3 Valutabanktage nicht vergessen.
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      schrieb am 21.12.07 10:49:48
      Beitrag Nr. 8.759 ()
      Hier mal reinschauen:

      "Demokratische US-Präsidentschaftskandidaten wollen Ethanol-Produktion ankurbeln"

      http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/100952/from/rss09
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      schrieb am 22.12.07 10:19:23
      Beitrag Nr. 8.760 ()
      http://www.ceocast.com/(bq3v1a55onmlwl250rb53tft)/NewsLetter…

      GreenShift Corporation (OTCBB: GSHF), a company that through its subsidiaries, develops and supports clean technologies and companies that facilitate the use of natural resources, provided an update on the status of its ongoing restructuring and other efforts. GSHF will change its name to GS Project Corporation in January 2008. Starting January 2008, its business model will be based on providing project financing and other support for qualified renewable fuels and energy efficiency projects for third party clients utilizing GS CleanTech technologies, equipment and services. While GS Projects' primary goal will be to generate income from any investments that it makes, the company's focus will be to provide financial support in ways that facilitate more sales of GS CleanTech technologies, equipment and services. GS Project plans to hire new senior management with experience in project development and finance as soon as possible. GreenShift shareholders of record ss of December 12, 2007 will receive 0.104 shares of GS CleanTech Corp., 5 shares of GS Energy Corp, and 0.010 of EnviroServices Inc. for each share of GreenShift. At the completion of these distributions, GreenShift will cease to have any direct ownership interest in GS CleanTech, GS Energy or GS EnviroServices. Shares were down 2 cents for the week, to close at $0.01.

      ... ist also bei 100.000 Stk GreenShift-Aktien:
      100.000 * 0,104 = 10.400 Stk GS CleanTech;
      100.000 * 5 = 500.000 Stk GS Energy
      100.000 * 0,010 = 1.000 Stk GS EnviroServices

      :confused:
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      schrieb am 27.12.07 19:02:13
      Beitrag Nr. 8.761 ()
      Heute :eek:
      0,012 EUR
      -25,00 % [-0,004]



      Ende aus Micky Maus?:rolleyes:
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      schrieb am 27.12.07 23:51:02
      Beitrag Nr. 8.762 ()
      So siehts aus im schneckenhaus – GS Cleantech wird wieder Greenshift.

      GS CleanTech to Take GS AgriFuels Private
      Thursday December 27, 9:03 am ET
      Transaction Will Mark Completion of GreenShift's Restructuring
      NEW YORK--(BUSINESS WIRE)--GS CleanTech Corporation (OTC Bulletin Board: GSCL - News) and its majority-held subsidiary, GS AgriFuels Corporation (OTC Bulletin Board: GSGF - News), today announced GS CleanTech’s plan to transfer its interest in the capital stock of GS AgriFuels to a new wholly-owned subsidiary of GS CleanTech. After the transfer, the new GS CleanTech subsidiary will merge GS AgriFuels into itself in accordance with the short-form merger procedures provided in Section 253 of the Delaware General Corporation Law. All non-affiliated minority shareholders of GS AgriFuels will receive a cash payment of $0.50 per share as a result of the merger and will thereafter cease to be shareholders of GS AgriFuels. GS AgriFuels will, therefore, cease to be a public company at the conclusion of these transactions.

      The completion of these transactions is subject to the consent of GS CleanTech’s and GS AgriFuels’ senior creditor, YA Global Investments, L.P. (“Global”). GS CleanTech expects to obtain this consent in the near term, based on recent favorable discussions with Global. If the consent is obtained by early January, GS CleanTech expects that it will declare a definitive date for the merger during January 2008, and that it will complete both the merger and the cash distribution within the first 6-8 weeks of 2008.

      The short-form merger of GS AgriFuels will be part of a series of transactions that GS CleanTech expects to complete in the next few weeks, involving the restructuring of GS CleanTech’s existing debt and the closing of new financing to support the ongoing construction and operation of GS CleanTech’s various corn oil extraction systems.

      Background on GS AgriFuels Transaction

      Ed Carroll, GS AgriFuels’ chief financial officer, said that “We have been burning too much cash at the corporate level administering multiple public entities. We believe that taking GS AgriFuels private, along with the other restructuring steps we have taken during the past 60 days, will significantly reduce corporate overhead, while streamlining our operations and alleviating the confusion that our multiple entities cause to both our clients and our shareholders.”

      Kevin Kreisler, chairman of GS CleanTech and GS AgriFuels, added: “The elimination of confusion has been a chief goal of our restructuring, as minority shareholders in each company have expressed concerns regarding the relationship between GS CleanTech and GS AgriFuels.”

      In late 2006, GS AgriFuels acquired NextGen Fuel, Inc. (“NextGen”), a development stage company that had developed proprietary and patent-pending technologies for the high efficiency transesterification of qualified oils and fats into biodiesel. While the NextGen reactor is an elegant, robust and proven technology, upstream and downstream processes are required to prepare targeted oils and fats before reaction and to purify the fuel after reaction. GS CleanTech’s engineers have either redesigned or designed nearly all of the upstream and downstream processes used in conjunction with the NextGen reactor today. Moreover, since NextGen never had its own engineering, manufacturing, installation, commissioning or any other technical staff after the acquisition, GS CleanTech’s engineering and manufacturing teams have conducted virtually all of NextGen’s operations since early 2007. Significantly, GS CleanTech’s staff is directly responsible for GS AgriFuels’ third quarter profits.

      Kreisler continued: “The degree to which GS CleanTech’s and GS AgriFuels’ operations are integrated and the extent to which GS AgriFuels relies on GS CleanTech’s engineers raises issues for the GS CleanTech shareholders that must be resolved. After reviewing a variety of alternatives, we concluded that the most equitable way to resolve these issues is for GS CleanTech to take GS AgriFuels private for fair value.”

      “We also believe that the combined benefit of GS AgriFuels’ and GS CleanTech’s commercialized technologies will be more effectively realized and translated into increased shareholder wealth by taking GS AgriFuels private. Once this transaction is completed, the value proposition presented by GS CleanTech’s various biofuels technologies and operations will no longer be diluted and spread across multiple publicly listed entities – it will be concentrated in one company: GS CleanTech.”

      Completion of Restructuring

      The completion of the short-form merger will mark the completion of GreenShift’s accelerated restructuring.

      Kreisler concluded: “We are producing cash flows today with technologies that were not in the field a year ago, and our growth rates of sales and earnings show that we can build an extremely exciting and profitable company. With the completion of our restructuring, we believe that our capital structure is now primed to accurately reflect the market value of what we are building and to enhance value for all of our shareholders. We will face considerable risks moving forward as we continue to scale our operations, but we have a strong foundation and I am confident that our team can make a significant contribution to the nation’s efforts to increase the utilization of biofuels.”

      A summary of the impact on GS CleanTech of the GS AgriFuels short-form merger as well as other recently completed transactions follows:

      New Name GS CleanTech is changing its name to GreenShift, which change is expected to become effective early in February 2008. Once its name change to GreenShift is effective, all of GS CleanTech's technology-centric products and services will be sold under the GreenShift brand.
      Operations GS CleanTech now holds the principal assets formerly held by GreenShift Corporation (OTC Bulletin Board: GSHF - News). GS CleanTech will adopt GSHF's business model moving forward, and will develop and support clean technologies and companies that enhance resource utilization by targeting and leveraging co-product extraction, beneficiation and refining opportunities. GS CleanTech will also focus on developing the partnerships and other resources required to bring its technologies to market.
      Subsidiaries After the short-form merger, GS CleanTech's operations will be administered through the following subsidiaries:
      Subsidiary

      Operations

      GS Ethanol Technologies, Inc. (Private) Corn Oil Extraction & Process Engineering
      GS AgriFuels Corporation (Private) Oilseed Crushing & Biodiesel Production Equipment
      GS EnviroServices, Inc. (OTC Bulletin Board: GSEN - News) Diversified Environmental Services
      GS Energy Corporation (OTC Bulletin Board: GSEG - News) Manufacturing & Emerging Technology R&D
      Share Structure GS CleanTech's pro forma December 31, 2007 share structure is provided here:
      Shares % of Total
      Authorized Common Shares 500,000,000 --
      Authorized Preferred Shares 1,000,000 --
      Issued and Outstanding Preferred Shares 0 0.00%
      Issued and Outstanding Common Shares (fully diluted) 140,000,000 100.00%
      Public Float 30,800,000 22.20%
      Profitable GS CleanTech's new operations collectively generated revenues and net income for the three months ended September 30, 2007 of about $14,519,000 and $1,047,000, respectively.
      Historical Growth GS CleanTech's consolidated sales on a pro forma historical basis exceeded $25 million and about $11 million for the nine months ended September 30, 2007 and six months ended June 30 2007, respectively, meaning that GS CleanTech's new operations more than doubled their year-to-date sales during the third quarter.
      Key Developments The following is a summary of the key recent accomplishments of GS CleanTech's new operations:
      Commercialization of Technology. The Company brought its patent-pending corn oil extraction and biodiesel technologies from the bench and into the field where the Company is currently executing its go-to-market strategy for each. The Company has other technologies in the queue that can be expected to follow suit: biomass gasification technology for heat, power and liquid fuels applications and our bioreactor technologies.
      Acquisition of Rights to Corn Oil Supply. The Company executed agreements for the extraction and purchase of more than 50 million gallons of crude corn oil per year for a minimum of ten years at prices that are indexed to diesel spot prices. The existing and under-construction corn ethanol production in the U.S. corresponds to more than a 700 million gallon per year corn oil extraction opportunity. The Company’s initial penetration goal is to secure long-term extraction rights to 150 million gallons of corn oil.
      Installation and Start-up of Corn Oil Extraction Systems. The Company has installed three corn oil extraction systems to date, one of which is the Company’s 100% owned Oshkosh system, which is located at Utica Energy, LLC’s 50 million gallon per year Delta-T dry mill corn ethanol facility. This system is producing oil at yields that correspond to 1.5 million gallons per year and about $1.125 million per year in contribution margin. The Company has completed engineering and is purchasing the long-lead time and other components for 7 additional systems corresponding to more than another 10.5 million gallons per year of extracted corn oil. These systems are scheduled for installation at a number of different ethanol facilities during the first 6 months of 2008. The Company is financing these deployments with its cash flows and a form of mezzanine project financing (not equity) that GS CleanTech expects to close in the immediate term.
      Advance Payment on Corn Oil Supply. The Company pre-sold one year’s worth of ten million gallons of corn oil to one of the Company’s NextGen clients and we intend to start regularly processing corn oil from the Company’s Oshkosh system at this client’s NextGen-based facility in the immediate term.
      Sales of Biodiesel Production Equipment. The Company executed a number of contracts to sell NextGen biodiesel production systems to various third party clients. The Company’s backlog of sales of NextGen biodiesel production systems currently exceeds $30 million. The Company’s pipeline of sales prospects corresponds to potential additional sales well in excess of this amount.
      Installation and Commissioning of Biodiesel Facilities Based on NextGen Technology. The Company recently commissioned two facilities based on NextGen biodiesel technology. The first was a 5 million gallon per year facility in Middletown, Indiana (www.e-biofuels.com) and the second a 10 million gallon per year facility in Adrian, Michigan (www.nextdiesel.net - NextDiesel Overview (video)). These facilities are owned by the Company’s third party clients. The Middletown client has executed an agreement to purchase an additional two 10 million gallon per year systems (which are scheduled for commissioning commencing December 2007 and the first quarter of 2008) and the Adrian client has executed agreements to purchase an additional 10 million gallon per year system and some specialized feedstock preparation equipment (which are scheduled for commissioning during the first quarter of 2008). In total, these two clients alone correspond to about $16 million in system sales based on the Company’s proprietary biodiesel technologies.
      Development of Biodiesel Production Facilities. The Company has completed preliminary engineering and permitting activities for the Company’s own biodiesel production facilities that are going to be co-located at ethanol facilities in New York (10 million gallons per year), Iowa (10 million gallons per year) and Indiana (5 million gallons per year). These facilities are being designed to scale to 20 million gallons per year, 30 million gallons per year and 10 million gallons per year, respectively. The Company is currently in various stages of negotiations to locate GS-owned corn oil biodiesel production facilities at several other ethanol facilities.
      Operation and Expansion of Oilseed Crush Facility. The Company’s Culbertson, Montana-based Sustainable Systems subsidiary currently produces and sells high oleic safflower, sunflower, canola and other high-value oils into the culinary markets in either bulk or packaged quantities. Sustainable’s bulk products are available as either crude degummed, refined bleached and deodorized (RBD), or as RBD with winterization. Sustainable is currently expanding its oilseed extraction and refining capability from 300 tons per day to 600 tons per day. When this expansion is completed within the first six months of 2008, Sustainable will be capable of generating in excess of $80 million per year in sales. In addition to expanding Sustainable’s oilseed processing capabilities in Montana and at other strategic locations, we intend to leverage Sustainable’s existing processing and distribution infrastructure to cost-effectively co-locate our biodiesel and biomass refining technologies to build Integrated Multi-Fuel production capability at the Montana plant.
      Expansion of Environmental Services. GS EnviroServices recently acquired the remedial construction group of Vertex Environmental Services and is currently seeking out acquisitions and other opportunities that would facilitate co-location of waste grease extraction and biodiesel production technology. GS EnviroServices also recently entered into an Energy Management Agreement with Olson’s Greenhouses, Inc., based on the recycling and reuse of carbonaceous materials.
      Additional Information

      A summary corporate chart with additional detail on the new corporate structure will be made available online at www.gs-cleantech.com and www.greenshift.com prior to December 31, 2007.

      About GS CleanTech Corporation

      GS CleanTech Corporation (OTC Bulletin Board: GSCL - News) develops and supports clean technologies and companies that facilitate the efficient use of natural resources. GS CleanTech's ambition is to catalyze the rapid realization of disruptive environmental gains by creating valuable opportunities for a great many people and companies to use resources more efficiently and to be more profitable. GS CleanTech Corporation owns majority stakes in each of GS Ethanol Technologies, Inc., GS AgriFuels Corporation (OTC Bulletin Board: GSGF - News), GS Energy Corporation (OTC Bulletin Board: GSEG - News) and GS EnviroServices, Inc. (OTC Bulletin Board: GSEN - News). Additional information on GS CleanTech is available online at www.gs-cleantech.com and www.greenshift.com.
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      schrieb am 28.12.07 01:42:59
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.884.422 von gutrix am 27.12.07 23:51:02Mein Gott, was für ein Durcheinander. Mag ja sein, dass das sinnlose hin- und her-Geschiebe alles rechtens ist. Aber für mich hat das Management jegliches Vertrauen verspielt. Die sollten sich mal darauf konzentrieren, wirtschaftlichen Erfolg zu erreichen, statt sich mit vollkommen intransparenten Finanzjonglierereien zu beschäftigen.
      Da ist das heutige Minus von 18,75% ja noch moderat, ich hatte nach dem magischen Datum vom 26.12. einen Einbruch erwartet. Bin sehr gespannt, wie es hier weitergeht.
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      schrieb am 28.12.07 10:00:32
      Beitrag Nr. 8.764 ()
      Hick - hack !
      Was bringt uns 2008 ???
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      schrieb am 28.12.07 11:22:28
      Beitrag Nr. 8.765 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.885.412 von Nuggettransfer am 28.12.07 10:00:32Gewinn:lick::lick::lick::lick::lick::lick:
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      schrieb am 28.12.07 12:00:10
      Beitrag Nr. 8.766 ()
      .....also fassen wir zusammen.

      Greenshift wurde als Firma in GS CleanTech transferiert. GS Agrifuel ebenfalls und wird jetzt von der Börse genommen, Aktionäre von Agri bekommen o,5€cent als Abgeltung- Agri ist somit "Privatsubsidary" von GS Cleantech.

      Greenshiftaktionäre kommen in den Genuss der Distribution (siehe shareholder letter 12.11.2007). Hat schon jemand die Töchter im Depot? Denke nicht da es nach wie vor keinen Extag gibt. Greenshift existiert als GS Projekt Blabla weiter, quasi als Finanzierungsplattform für GSCL, GSEG, GSEN. GSCL wird umbenannt in GREENSHIFT (die MARKE). Mir kommt vor alles beim alten, nur diverse splits durchgeführt.

      ...man sollte dann wieder GSHF (= GSCL), GSEG, GSEN im Depot haben, im Distributionverhältnis (nach diversen Splits).

      was ich jetzt nicht verstehe, warum ich GSEG, GSEN haben soll, wenn die doch wieder Töchter von GSCL sind, GSCL wieder Greenshift wird. Nicht wirklich durchschaubar.

      Und was noch auffällt chairman von GSCL und Agri ist Kevin Kreisler?

      Im Prinzip hat man die Holding Greenshift geleert um alles in GSCL wieder zusammen zuführen - eigentlich hat sich lediglich der Mantel geändert, und dies unter enormen Finanzjonglagen.

      .....was für ein Unsinn.....
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      schrieb am 28.12.07 12:31:51
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.846.487 von trader-911 am 22.12.07 10:19:23Es sollten doch am 26.12.07 die verschiedenen Aktien im Depot eingebucht werden. Bei mir hat sich nichts getan...oder hab ich das ganze falsch verstanden??
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      schrieb am 28.12.07 19:08:30
      Beitrag Nr. 8.768 ()
      ...kann noch gar nicht sein, weil die GSCL erst Agriaktionäre auszahlen sollte bevor die Rekostruktiuon abgeschlossen ist. Erst dann werden die Aktien eingebucht - denke ich
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      schrieb am 29.12.07 18:04:29
      Beitrag Nr. 8.769 ()
      Man das ist ein Durcheinander hier mit GS.Ich lasse meine GSHF-Aktien so lange liegen ,bis sich das hier auf-oder nicht aufgeklärt hat.Vieleicht ist das auch beabsichtigt um daraus noch irgendeinen Vorteil zu schlagen.Erst ist die Fusoon abgeschlossen,nun dauert sie noch in das 1. Quartal an.Alles Absicht und Verschleierung von Tatsachen.Die Zeche bezahlt der kleine Mann.
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      schrieb am 31.12.07 17:38:06
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      GreenShift Provides Restructuring Update
      Monday December 31, 8:42 am ET
      NEW YORK--(BUSINESS WIRE)--GreenShift Corporation (OTC Bulletin Board: GSHF - News) today provided an update to its shareholders regarding the status of its pending distribution.

      As previously announced, GreenShift shareholders of record as of December 12, 2007 will receive the following distributions:

      Total Distributed Shares

      Distribution to Holder of One GreenShift Share

      Distribution to Holder of 10,000 GreenShift Shares

      GS CleanTech Corporation (OTCBB: GSCL - News) 20,800,000 0.104 1,040
      GS Energy Corporation (OTCBB: GSEG - News) 1,000,000,000 5.000 50,000
      GS EnviroServices, Inc. (OTCBB: GSEN - News) 2,000,000 0.010 100
      This distribution is being made to GreenShift shareholders of record as of December 12, 2007. However, because shares are being distributed, the ex-dividend date for this distribution will be the first date after the date on which the certificates are actually mailed to the shareholders. The certificates are being mailed on December 31, 2007 and the ex-dividend date will be Wednesday, January 2, 2008.

      Any GreenShift shareholder who was a record shareholder of GreenShift shares on December 12, 2007 but sold GreenShift shares in a transaction that was recorded between December 13, 2007 and December 31, 2007 will be required to deliver the distributed shares to the purchaser when they are received.

      Likewise, any GreenShift shareholder who became a record shareholder on or after December 13, 2007 but then sold their GreenShift shares in a transaction that was recorded prior to January 2, 2008 will be required to deliver the distributed shares to the purchaser when they are received. The delivery of the distributed shares in each case will be accomplished by the seller’s broker.

      Any GreenShift shareholder that was recorded as such on or after December 13, 2007 and remained on the shareholder list through December 31, 2007 will be entitled to be the final recipient of the distributed shares.
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      schrieb am 02.01.08 13:57:32
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      wieso in d noch handel?

      usa ab heute wohl tot
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      schrieb am 02.01.08 15:26:07
      Beitrag Nr. 8.772 ()
      Die gläserne Hülle oder was passiert 2008 ?
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      schrieb am 02.01.08 15:43:30
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      schrieb am 02.01.08 17:50:10
      Beitrag Nr. 8.774 ()
      noch mal, denke Greenshift bleibt im Depot, da sie ja als Finanzierungsunit unter dem Namen GS Project blabla weiterbestehen. Was den Wert betrifft kann die Hülle jederzeit wieder gefüllt bzw. verkauft werden. Weiters ist nicht ganz klar was mit den Patenten passiert bzw. passiert ist.
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      schrieb am 02.01.08 18:54:51
      Beitrag Nr. 8.775 ()
      Also ich hab noch keine Aktien eingebucht bekommen, wie sieht das bei Euch aus????:confused:
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      schrieb am 02.01.08 19:30:41
      Beitrag Nr. 8.776 ()
      ich auch nicht, aber denke das sind die 3 Valutatage bzw. dauert das wohl, rein aus organisatorischen Aufwand. Denke wird in der Woche noch eingebucht werden.

      Da heute EX Tag ist, die Aktie ohne Dividende gehandelt wird, kann man theoretisch verkaufen, und bekommt trotzdem die Töchter (auch wenn sie noch nicht eingebucht sind). Denke das stimmt so - oder?
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      schrieb am 02.01.08 21:56:26
      Beitrag Nr. 8.777 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.917.419 von gutrix am 02.01.08 17:50:10Ich bleibe ja genau deswegen drin (Patente)
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      schrieb am 04.01.08 00:11:22
      Beitrag Nr. 8.778 ()
      wo sind die shares:confused:
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      schrieb am 04.01.08 09:24:16
      Beitrag Nr. 8.779 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.934.847 von gutrix am 04.01.08 00:11:22Ich hatte bei meiner Bank (Diraba) angerufen, um die Angelegenheit zu klären.
      Der Sachbearbeiter meinte, dass ich mich darum nicht kümmern müsste, die würden automatisch eingebucht.
      Bis jetzt hat sich aber auch in meinem Depot noch nichts bewegt.
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      schrieb am 04.01.08 16:13:20
      Beitrag Nr. 8.780 ()
      Genial!

      Haben gerade zu GSCl RS- und Tauschbereinigt fast 60% Abschlag. Habe Ende letzten Jahres angekündigt, daß ich bereit stehe wenn wieder die ganzen Nullchecker unterwegs sind. Und die sind in USA und Germany wie vorhergesagt unterwegs.

      MK von GSCl ist 2Mio$, lächerlich.


      Danke an alle Nullchecker!
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      schrieb am 06.01.08 13:15:08
      Beitrag Nr. 8.781 ()
      haste recht – die MK ist beim derzeitigen Preis, inklusive Agrifuel ein Scherz. Denke aber, dass sich der Staub um die distribution noch nicht gelegt hat (sobald die Töchter eingebucht sind), wir sich da was tun.

      ....und:GS CleanTech's consolidated sales on a pro forma historical basis exceeded $25 million and about $11 million for the nine months ended September 30, 2007 and six months ended June 30 2007, respectively, meaning that GS CleanTech's new operations more than doubled their year-to-date sales during the third quarter.
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      schrieb am 06.01.08 17:19:10
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.940.457 von ManuBaby am 04.01.08 16:13:20Nullchecker:lick: so ist es, hier warten Gewinne und fast keiner merkt es:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
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      schrieb am 06.01.08 20:10:38
      Beitrag Nr. 8.783 ()
      Also, ich denke, in diesem Jahr 2008 wird es soweit sein. Wenn Greenshift es dieses Jahr nicht schafft, dann wohl nie. Der Ethanol-Sektor ist aber schon wieder im Aufwind. Und ich habe immer gesagt, dass ohne dem auch bei Greenshift nichts laufen wird. Auf ein paar spannende nächste Monate... Sollte Obama sich durchsetzen: noch besser für die Renewables!
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      schrieb am 07.01.08 16:23:56
      Beitrag Nr. 8.784 ()
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      schrieb am 07.01.08 16:46:41
      Beitrag Nr. 8.785 ()
      Sind bei irgendjemand die shares im Depot schon gutgeschrieben?
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      schrieb am 07.01.08 17:40:50
      Beitrag Nr. 8.786 ()
      Danke an die Spender, welche immer noch die Greenis 60% unter dem Tauschverhältnis verschenken.
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      schrieb am 08.01.08 16:18:59
      Beitrag Nr. 8.787 ()
      hm, war nicht gesagt das die GSCL und der Kremmpel eingebucht werden sollte??
      Die Teile müssen Sie wohl gleich in die Mühltonne gelegt haben, denn bei mir sind noch keine Shares gelandet.................:confused:
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      schrieb am 08.01.08 20:13:14
      Beitrag Nr. 8.788 ()
      na ein bisserl schade für die Mülltonne – aber bei mir auch noch nix.
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      schrieb am 09.01.08 00:19:24
      Beitrag Nr. 8.789 ()
      für 08.01.08 eine klare Kaufempfehlung...:p

      http://www.happyyuppie.com/cgi-bin/de/search.pl?isin=US39571…
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      schrieb am 09.01.08 07:56:04
      Beitrag Nr. 8.790 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.987.692 von trader-911 am 09.01.08 00:19:24:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
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      schrieb am 09.01.08 08:00:39
      Beitrag Nr. 8.791 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.981.305 von trader-911 am 08.01.08 16:18:59beliest Du Dich denn nicht????
      Bezeichnest Dich doch groß als Trader oder willst Du erst einer werden?

      In den News stand doch eindeutig ,dass der Merger voraussichtlich bis Ende Februar abgschlossen ist.Er ist erst mit dem Auszahlen der Altaktionäre von GS Agrifuels abgeschlossen.Ich nehme an,sie sammeln jetzt über GSCL die Kohle für diese Auszahlung zusammen und das wird ne Weile dauern.Vorher denke ich,kommt nichts in das Depot.
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      schrieb am 09.01.08 11:28:57
      Beitrag Nr. 8.792 ()
      Hi,
      bin eigentlich seit über einem Jahr nicht mehr aktiv auf WO, aber weil ich immer noch im Greenshift-Verteiler bin, wollte ich mal gucken, ob es sich bei einem Penny nicht doch langsam lohnen könnte, wieder einzusteigen (ich hatte 2006 zwischen 0,08 und 0,12 gekauft und glücklicherweise zwischen 0,30 und 0,13 wieder verkauft).
      Aber nach dem genauen Durchlesen des letzten SEC-Filing (Pre 14C) und dem NICHT-Erwähnen desselben hier bei Euch frage ich mich, ob Ihr das auch gelesen habt. Denn was KK hier abzieht, ist IMO heftig:
      Zum einen einen RS von 20:1 und eine Erhöhung der authorized shares auf 500MIO (!), zum anderen eine Umbenennung in "Carbonics Capital Group".

      Im Endeffekt beginnt hiermit der ganze "Spaß" wieder von vorne...nach dem RS sind zwar nur 10mio shares outstanding, aber "dank" der warrants sind schon mal knapp 90mio de facto outstanding, so daß KK wieder 410 MILLIONEN shares zum Verpulvern hat. D.h. der Preis geht nach dem RS zwar künstlich hoch, wird dann aber, falls keine Substantiierung durch wirtschaftliche Fakten sowie die übliche Dilution erfolgt, wieder nach unten rasen.
      Denn die 10mio shares nach dem RS sind Augenwischerei, schließlich muß man eigentlich die knapp 90mio als OS rechnen, so daß faktisch ein RS von 2:1 durchgeführt wird, was die Anzahl der shares betrifft, die Aktionäre jedoch tatsächlich nur ein Zwanzigstel ihrer Aktien behalten.
      Eventuell habe ich ja was übersehen, aber wenn nicht, ist das klarer Diebstahl.
      Gruß: gcente
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      schrieb am 11.01.08 12:35:05
      Beitrag Nr. 8.793 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.990.670 von GCEnte am 09.01.08 11:28:57Recht haste ,modernes Raubrittertum.:mad:
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      schrieb am 11.01.08 13:29:46
      Beitrag Nr. 8.794 ()
      Geduld, jetzt brechen vielleicht bald bessere Zeiten an:

      http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/071219/bush_fuel_economy.html
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      schrieb am 11.01.08 19:54:14
      Beitrag Nr. 8.795 ()
      Ähh kleiner Tip- hier ist der Kääss gegesse, schon lange:laugh:
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      schrieb am 13.01.08 10:52:59
      Beitrag Nr. 8.796 ()
      Morgen!

      Hat vieleicht schon Jemand die neuen Share auf dem Konto???????????
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      schrieb am 13.01.08 17:07:29
      Beitrag Nr. 8.797 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.033.083 von Harry2005 am 13.01.08 10:52:59Bei DIBA noch nix passiert-aber wir haben doch schon gelernt,geduldig zu sein:cool:
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      schrieb am 14.01.08 07:18:39
      Beitrag Nr. 8.798 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.034.386 von fachfrosch am 13.01.08 17:07:29Bei DAB auch noch nichts.Recht haste,warten wirs ab.:)
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      schrieb am 14.01.08 11:56:40
      Beitrag Nr. 8.799 ()
      Bei mir (DAB) auch noch nix!
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      schrieb am 15.01.08 09:36:45
      Beitrag Nr. 8.800 ()
      Ich hab euch schon mal gewarnt, die Bude ist Bankrott, unglaublich das einige die Tatsache nicht wahrnehmen wollen:laugh::laugh:
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      schrieb am 15.01.08 16:50:46
      Beitrag Nr. 8.801 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.049.376 von orangebox am 15.01.08 09:36:45Und wenn die Share drauf sind sag ich dir Bescheid:p
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      schrieb am 15.01.08 17:33:28
      Beitrag Nr. 8.802 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.049.376 von orangebox am 15.01.08 09:36:45Die Bude lebt, da werden heuer noch 1000% drin sein:lick::lick::lick::lick::lick::lick::lick::lick:
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      schrieb am 15.01.08 17:44:02
      Beitrag Nr. 8.803 ()
      Und aus GS Cleantech wird Greenshift????????????

      Habt Ihr die News gelesen.So ein Durcheinander.
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      schrieb am 15.01.08 20:32:18
      Beitrag Nr. 8.804 ()
      kein Wunder machen 90 % aller Kleinanleger Verluste:laugh::laugh:

      So dumm kann man ja nicht sein oder????

      :laugh::laugh:
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      schrieb am 16.01.08 09:53:49
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.059.485 von orangebox am 15.01.08 20:32:18Und Du bist ein ganz, ganz Kluger -
      das sieht man schon an Deiner Rechtschreibung
      und dem Gebrauch der smilies,
      sowie dem dummen Gesabbel.
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      schrieb am 17.01.08 10:13:51
      Beitrag Nr. 8.806 ()
      Greenshift wird zwar nicht erwähnt (was m.E. nichts heißen soll), aber der Beitrag, den ich mir aus dem Verasun-Thread geholt habe, hilft bei der Einschätzung des Ethanol-Sektors in den USA:



      Energy
      Top Five Ethanol Picks
      By Chuck Marvin
      TheStreet.com Staff Reporter
      1/15/2008 6:44 AM EST
      URL: http://www.thestreet.com/newsanalysis/energy/10398143.html




      With corn prices up and ethanol prices down, profit margins for ethanol producers are brutally slim.

      Shares of many ethanol companies have been in a freefall for months, a number plunging 50% or more, even as interest in alternative energy continues to gather momentum.

      What's the problem? The market has a glut of ethanol, and there are still more than 80 new refineries slated for construction in the next year. And this comes at a time when corn-based ethanol is facing mounting criticism for its role in driving up food prices and questions about whether other feedstocks are less reliant on fossil fuels in the first place.

      Though it's difficult to look past the growing hurdles, a few ethanol companies should ultimately prove hardened enough to survive, especially if the politicians in Washington provide an assist.

      Ronald Miller, CEO of Aventine Renewable Energy (AVR) , said in a speech last fall that many of the proposed ethanol plants ultimately won't receive financing if the broader problems persist.

      That's great news for the best-of-breed ethanol companies. A thorough cleansing of the space is exactly what they need to eliminate the oversupply and fatten their margins.

      Most analysts agree that stocks in the ethanol space will likely remain flat through 2008. However, investors with a slightly longer time horizon could reap rewards. Of course, not all names are created equal, so your best chance to find a winner lies in five stocks. Don't confuse this with a ringing endorsement. Instead, think of these as the best houses in a struggling neighborhood.
      Top Players

      VeraSun (VSE) is the popular favorite in the pure-play ethanol space, boasting the strongest analyst ratings of any name in the sector. The fact that its average rating is neutral reflects the problematic economics of the ethanol space itself, rather than the way that VeraSun is being managed.

      The company harbors the most ambitious expansion program of any of its peers. After it announced last month that it will acquire US BioEnergy (USBE) , its production outlook surpassed agriculture giant Archer Daniels Midland (ADM) , with an expected capacity of 1.75 billion gallons of ethanol by the end of 2008.

      Like many producers, VeraSun is planning to extract and sell distillers grain as a byproduct of the ethanol-production process. The distillers grain can be sold as cattle feed. But VeraSun wants to go a step further and extract refined corn oil from the distillers grain, which the company says will increase its profit margins and make it more competitive than its peers.

      VeraSun's growing operations are clearly visible in its financials. It generated $221.9 million in revenue in the third quarter, a 49.7% increase from the prior year. However, tighter profit margins hammered its bottom line, and earnings for the quarter fell to $7.8 million from $32 million.

      Still, all things considered in an industry with substantial uncertainty, VeraSun is the best of the lot.

      Next up is Archer Daniels Midland, which produced 1.07 billion gallons of ethanol last year and is planning on output of 1.62 billion gallons by 2010. As a broad agriculture company with various other businesses, ADM can adjust its capital spending when the ethanol environment starts to hurt, and its diversity is its advantage.

      ADM did just that last year when corn prices rose above $4 a bushel and ethanol prices bottomed out near $2 a gallon. It moved more corn toward its sweeteners and starches business and less toward ethanol.

      SMH Capital analyst Robert Lane thinks that agriculture names like ADM could be the best bet for investors who want exposure to ethanol. "Ag companies have the strongest position because they can run an arbitration model and decide whether it makes more sense to grind and sell their corn as food or to distill it into ethanol," he says.

      Additionally, companies with ethanol refineries can operate similarly to natural gas companies, running the refineries at peak when the price of ethanol is highest. In contrast, most pure-play ethanol companies have to run their refineries full-bore all the time.
      Buying Inputs

      Green Plains Renewable Energy (GPRE) is a smaller player ($92 million market cap) with a strategy that could pay off. It has one plant that produces 50 million gallons a year and another under construction, but it isn't counting on volume to increase its profitability.

      Instead, the company plans to expand vertically to better control its profit margins, according to Scott Poor, director of investor relations. Green Plains is awaiting the approval of a merger with the Great Lakes corn cooperative, which will give it access to corn at wholesale prices. As high corn prices are largely responsible for the sector's bout of underperformance, this tactic could prove lethal to other companies of Green Plains' size.

      Green Plains is a new company, and it first reported revenue in August. Its stock hasn't been kind to believers thus far, dropping by nearly half in the past 12 months to $12.75. However, if its merger with Great Lakes goes through, Green Plains could be well positioned to post margins that could handily beat out its peers.

      Among the pure-play ethanol producers, Aventine Renewable Energy boasts the second-largest production train below VeraSun. Its $490 million market cap also puts it No. 2 to VeraSun ($1.2 billion) in terms of valuation.

      Like VeraSun, Aventine can use economies of scale to squeeze out competitors, and its relatively strong balance sheet could allow it to go shopping for existing refineries.

      Aventine has also done something unusual by creating a distribution network that transports its competitors' ethanol. This network of railcars and ethanol terminals provides Aventine with a relatively reliable cash-flow stream separate from its own ethanol sales.

      Regardless of this effort, Morningstar analyst Michael Tian recently wrote in a report that he doesn't think Aventine "has sufficiently differentiated itself from other ethanol producers."

      In short, if you have to pick one name, VeraSun might be the better option.
      Geographic Distinction

      Finally, there's Pacific Ethanol (PEIX) .

      Most ethanol producers are located in the Midwest. Transporting that ethanol to blending stations that are typically along the coasts can be expensive. Pacific Ethanol is taking an alternate route, building small plants on the West Coast with better access to its customers.

      The company will sell its distillers grain byproduct like most ethanol producers. Distillers grain usually must be dried to extend its shelf life, and drying the grain requires natural gas. Pacific Ethanol can bypass this process by building plants near cattle yards. This allows it to deliver its distillers grain wet, saving the company money on its energy bill.

      Pacific Ethanol also has a very ambitious construction plan which would boost its production capacity from 60 million gallons in 2008 to about 400 million gallons at the end of 2010. But the cost of building plants has risen dramatically in the past year, and Tian thinks that this schedule could be too ambitious.

      As infrastructure for the distribution of ethanol spreads across the country, Pacific Ethanol's protected market in the Northwest will be opened up to competition, and it will ultimately have to produce ethanol as cost-efficiently as its peers. For now, though, it has geography working in its favor.

      I've set up a portfolio to track these five stocks. Check out the TheStreet.com Ethanol Portfolio at Stockpickr.com.
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      schrieb am 18.01.08 17:13:59
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      schrieb am 21.01.08 19:54:49
      Beitrag Nr. 8.808 ()
      Weis jemand was mit den ganzen versprochenen Aktien der Untergesellschaften ist, wann werden die denn eingebucht?

      Danke

      Das mit dem Reversesplit der GS is ja unverschämt, dass sowas erlaubt ist, ist unglaublich. Das ist mal wieder Betrug und Bereicherung!
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      schrieb am 22.01.08 12:11:51
      Beitrag Nr. 8.809 ()
      was passiert jetzt mit greenshift.

      die aktie fällt gegen null.

      bekommt man jetzt neue aktien (wenn ja, in welchem verhältnis und wann) oder ist die aktie null wert. kann ich dann greenshift verkaufen oder kann es dann sein, dass ich keine neuen aktien bekomme?
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      schrieb am 22.01.08 18:05:21
      Beitrag Nr. 8.810 ()
      Kann mir Einer den Xetra - Handel des heutigen Tages bei Greenshift erklären - (2900 % ) im plus ???
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      schrieb am 22.01.08 20:35:02
      Beitrag Nr. 8.811 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.133.245 von Nuggettransfer am 22.01.08 18:05:21Spekulation:
      Zusammenlegung von GS Cleantech zu Greenshift?
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      schrieb am 23.01.08 12:38:40
      Beitrag Nr. 8.812 ()
      Sieht hier irgend Jehmand noch durch - ich langsam nicht mehr !?
      Es könnte mal paar Neuigkeiten bzw. einen aktuellen Stand der Dinge geben !
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      schrieb am 23.01.08 21:46:01
      Beitrag Nr. 8.813 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.141.213 von Nuggettransfer am 23.01.08 12:38:40Bald werden alle Transaktionen abgeschlossen sein. Danach ändert Greenshift den Namen :

      GS Projekt Corporation!

      Würde mich nicht wundern, wenn in der Zukunft dann nur noch (durch die vielen Zusammenlegungen bedingt) bei der GS Projekt Corporation gehandelt wird.

      Durch die bestehenden Verträge kann es dann nur noch in eine Richtung gehen:

      gen Norden!
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      schrieb am 24.01.08 11:32:58
      Beitrag Nr. 8.814 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.149.215 von chorodoro am 23.01.08 21:46:01...das glaube ich nicht tim.

      Greenshift gehört zu GS Cleantech, wurde wie Agrifuel in Cleantech hineinfirmiert. Agri ist von der Borse genommen worden, ist jetzt ein privatunternehmen von GS Cleantech. Greenshift bleibt lediglich als Marke bestehen, die über GS Cleantech vertrieben wird (unter anderem auch Produkte von Agri, GSENG, GSEG).

      Greenshift ist lediglich ein Subsidary von GSCL und wird den Namen in GS Project Corp. ändern, aber ein Susidary von GSCL bleiben.

      GSCL vereint dann GS Project Corp.(ex Greenshift),Agrifuel, GSENG, GSEG unter sich, ist quasi die neue Holding, wie sie auch immer heißen wird.

      @ chorodoro: die sind schon zusammengelegt
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      schrieb am 24.01.08 12:12:07
      Beitrag Nr. 8.815 ()
      kann mir einer sagen was aus gs energy wird? Hab davon noch 500.000 im Depot und keine Ahnung was damit passiert...
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      schrieb am 24.01.08 22:00:00
      Beitrag Nr. 8.816 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.153.882 von gutrix am 24.01.08 11:32:58Endlich hab ich nen Moment Zeit für die Kiste:

      Wann die komplette Umstruktuierung der GS Project Corp. abgeschlossen ist könnte ich mir vorstellen, daß "SWVC" die neue Holding sein könnte.
      Tom ist der CEO der Agrifuels. Er hat im Hintergrund schon immer gute Fäden gezogen.
      Was meinst Du dazu?
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      schrieb am 25.01.08 10:44:37
      Beitrag Nr. 8.817 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.162.300 von chorodoro am 24.01.08 22:00:00Wie lange könnte denn so eine Umstruckturierungs - Phase dauern ?
      Ich meine - Zeit ist Geld und der Prozess ist meiner Meinung nach nicht in den nächsten 2- 3 Monaten abgeschlossen !
      Die groben Teile eventuell - ja !
      Aber damit ist noch nicht von normaler Geschäftstätigkeit die Rede .
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      schrieb am 25.01.08 13:18:27
      Beitrag Nr. 8.818 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.165.919 von Nuggettransfer am 25.01.08 10:44:37...in den Amithreads werden die Leute schon unruhig und überlegen Klagen, weil die Shares noch nicht da sin:confused:d
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      schrieb am 25.01.08 15:26:27
      Beitrag Nr. 8.819 ()
      Schon gelesen?

      Mail von KK an edman (Raging Bull), 24. Januar:



      "Mr. Kreisler was kind enough to take the time to email this response.


      My response follows:

      1 - What we are going to do about "bashers"

      Build value: Q3 2007 results (3 months ended 9/30/07) for GreenShift (GSCL): $10MM in sales and $3.2MM in EBITDA without GS EnviroServices.

      Any of our investors, including Mr. Warrior, have been and remain free to ask me appropriate questions directly. I have no issues responding candidly to legitimate and appropriate questions. I would ask, however, if anyone can identify any cleantech biofuels companies that are profitable and cash flowing today on any of the big boards let alone the OTCBB.
      2 - Regarding the 20% interest rate

      Despite the expense, the structure of the financing pushes debt repayment away from equity conversions and into cash flows. In other words, we have transferred the short and long term dilutive impact of all of the debt away from common stock to short term cash flows. The revolving line of credit is specifically intended to subsidize the construction and initiation of operations of the extraction systems out of cash flows pending our larger project financings.

      $1.2MM in EBITDA per system provides more than sufficient cash flow to service debt and reinvest in additional systems.

      Bottom line: 20% interest for 6-12 months is far cheaper than equity conversions at irrationally low market prices.

      3 - Regarding the contracts - these are the facts and they have been disclosed:

      A - We have contracts with a number of ethanol facilities to install corn oil extraction systems corresponding to over 50 million gallons per year of corn oil. These are 10 year contracts and each requires us to fund the deployment of the extraction systems. Since funding 1 system is more challenging than funding 10 systems, our strategy was to gather mass and then to raise capital off of that mass in cost-effective ways. Gathering mass involved letters of intent, followed by contracts, followed by deployment of demonstration systems to prove the technology to justify the financing - the process just took us 2 years to complete.

      B - We have contracts with a number of third party development teams to sell over $50 million worth of biodiesel production and related equipment. These are straight equipment sales and the margins provide us with ample cash to service our debt and execute on our growth plans. These sales are designed to allow us to us to defray equity and debt needs while developing accretive production assets in very cost-effective ways.

      C - We have contracts with ethanol facilities to build jointly owned biodiesel production systems based on our biodiesel and related technologies.

      D - We have engaged Fieldstone Private Capital Group to raise the capital we need to build all of our production assets - this raise is currently expected to exceed $150MM. "


      - - - - -
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      schrieb am 25.01.08 16:01:33
      Beitrag Nr. 8.820 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.165.919 von Nuggettransfer am 25.01.08 10:44:37Hi,
      die Umstruktuierung ist nach meiner Auffassung bis Ende 2/08 abgeschlossen. Die Geschäftstätigkeit geht voll weiter. Es bestehen ja hervorragende Verträge.
      Mal sehen, wo wir Anfang März stehen. Bis dato dürften auch die kompletten Umbuchungen erfolgt sein.
      Ob dann der Hammer mit SWVC kommt?
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      schrieb am 25.01.08 17:15:06
      Beitrag Nr. 8.821 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.170.081 von chorodoro am 25.01.08 16:01:33... ich hoffe das dann der Hammer kommt.
      Irgend wann muß das Tal ja mal verlassen werden !
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      schrieb am 27.01.08 15:25:12
      Beitrag Nr. 8.822 ()
      Also ich habe die neuen GS Energy Corp.(WKN A0J4E7) schon eingebucht bekommen. Die anderen beiden sind bis jetzt als Anspruchsstücke bezeichnet. Laut meiner Bank werden bei diesen sofort nach Erhalt die Sperren aufgehoben. Zeitpunkt jedoch noch nicht bekannt!!!


      Gruß SZ
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      schrieb am 27.01.08 18:16:07
      Beitrag Nr. 8.823 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.184.127 von Superzukunft am 27.01.08 15:25:12Bei mir wurden sie auch eingebucht ( GS Energy corp.), die beiden anderen sollen folgen, im Verhältnis wie im Schreiben zugesichert.
      Die Sperre wird nach erhalt dann aufgehoben.
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      schrieb am 28.01.08 00:23:29
      Beitrag Nr. 8.824 ()
      ...auch bei mir wurde eingebucht...;)
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      schrieb am 28.01.08 09:11:24
      Beitrag Nr. 8.825 ()
      Bei mir (DIBA) immer noch nichts.
      Muss mal auf den Busch klopfen -
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      schrieb am 28.01.08 13:00:19
      Beitrag Nr. 8.826 ()
      Ich habe auch einige dieser Aktien mit einem Börsenwert von 200 Euro

      Wenn ich mir jetzt die neueinbuchungen der 3 Gesellschaften anschaue
      bekomme ich eine Börsenwert von c. 800 Euro geschenkt.

      Kapier ich nicht
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      schrieb am 28.01.08 13:08:33
      Beitrag Nr. 8.827 ()
      bei welchen Banken habt Ihr eure Depots? ich bin bei comdirect und da ist noch nichts passiert.

      Nach welchen Anteilen habt Ihr was bekommen?

      Ich habe 187500 Greenshift. Was erhalte ich dann alles?

      Kann ich jetzt schon meine Greenshift verkaufen oder gehe ich dann in Gefahr gar nichts zu bekommen?
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      schrieb am 28.01.08 13:12:09
      Beitrag Nr. 8.828 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.189.697 von Hotstock1 am 28.01.08 13:08:33Pro Aktie gibt es:
      5 Stück GS Energy A0J4E7 schon eingebucht
      0,104 Stück GS Clean Tech A0M9YC
      0,01 Aktien GS Enviro A0MU07
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      schrieb am 28.01.08 13:16:03
      Beitrag Nr. 8.829 ()
      GS Energy A0J4E7 Börse München Wert gegen 0
      GS Clean Tech A0M9YC Börse Berlin 0,13 cent
      GS Enviro A0MU07 nur Nasdaq Wert ca. 0,054 cent
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      schrieb am 28.01.08 13:24:16
      Beitrag Nr. 8.830 ()
      Danke!

      1. Bei welchen Banken habt Ihr eure Depots? Ich bin bei comdirect, da ist noch nichts passiert.

      2. Kann ich dann jetzt (obwohl noch nichts eingebucht worden ist) schon meine Greenshift verkaufen oder gehe ich dann in Gefahr gar nichts zu bekommen?
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      schrieb am 28.01.08 13:28:27
      Beitrag Nr. 8.831 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.189.824 von Hotstock1 am 28.01.08 13:24:16Depot bei Raiffeisenbank

      zur 2 Frage habe ich leider keine Antwort
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      schrieb am 28.01.08 13:57:23
      Beitrag Nr. 8.832 ()
      Was ist denn mit deinen Greenshift Aktien passiert?

      Waren die nach der Einbuchung weg?

      Oder hast Du diese verkauft? Wann?

      Oder hast du sie noch im Bestand?
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      schrieb am 28.01.08 14:02:19
      Beitrag Nr. 8.833 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.190.084 von Hotstock1 am 28.01.08 13:57:23Ich habe meine noch im Bestand und im Schreiben meiner Bank steht:
      " Für je 1 Aktie die am 31.12.2007 abends in Ihrem Bestand war erhalten Sie zusätzlich......
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      schrieb am 29.01.08 19:23:30
      Beitrag Nr. 8.834 ()
      Geht ja wieder 15% hoch in USA. Wenn jemand 300000 zu 0,006 kaufen will, einfach ne Kauforder in Berlin reinstellen, ich gehe dann darauf ein. In Frankfurt tut sich wieder nichts ... :mad:
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      schrieb am 30.01.08 11:36:38
      Beitrag Nr. 8.835 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.189.697 von Hotstock1 am 28.01.08 13:08:33Bei ConSors ist auch noch nichts eingebucht!:rolleyes:
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      schrieb am 30.01.08 13:23:35
      Beitrag Nr. 8.836 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.211.426 von JamaicaJack am 30.01.08 11:36:38Bei Comdirect auch noch immer nichts.:(
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      schrieb am 30.01.08 14:42:38
      Beitrag Nr. 8.837 ()
      Habe gerade bei der DIBA angerufen.
      Die Wissen nicht von einer Kapitalmaßnahme.

      Was ist da los........
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      schrieb am 30.01.08 15:16:55
      Beitrag Nr. 8.838 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.213.788 von trader-911 am 30.01.08 14:42:38Bei mir sind die Einbuchungen* erfolgt. Kann Euch alle beruhigen.
      Zug um Zug werden die Vorgänge erledigt. Ab 3/08 wird der gesamte Hickhack erledigt sein und Greenshift wieder neu aus der Taufe gehoben werden.

      *VOBA
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      schrieb am 30.01.08 16:27:19
      Beitrag Nr. 8.839 ()
      Nach wie vor gibt es meiner Meinung nach große Verunsicherung.
      Die Einbuchung der GSHF - Aktien usw. ist ein Vorgang der einfach abläuft.
      Alles Andere: - z. B. was kommt danach und wie geht es weiter ?
      Was bringen die nächsten 1-2 Jahre ? ... ist z. Zeit offen.
      Außer guten Hoffnungen kann ich momentan nicht all zu viel erkennen !
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      schrieb am 31.01.08 09:12:01
      Beitrag Nr. 8.840 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.213.788 von trader-911 am 30.01.08 14:42:38Jippieh!!!!!! Bei Comdirect sind sie jetzt auch eingebucht!:)
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      schrieb am 31.01.08 09:28:03
      Beitrag Nr. 8.841 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.213.788 von trader-911 am 30.01.08 14:42:38dass ist Klasse: gerstern bei DIBA angerufen -> der Herr hatte mir mitgeteilt, dass es nichts gebe, er jedenfalls nichts im System finden kann (wahrscheinlich FAZ)

      heute Morgen: alle 3 eingebucht


      Na, da bin ich mal gespannt was die demnächst Wert sind.
      Werde die Greenshift-Shares behalten (die ...Project werden), da die Aussicht auf Gewinn wohl in dem Wert größer ist, als bei Cleantech (die dann Greenshift wird).
      Die brauchen ja dann nur noch Drucker und PCs in ihrer Bilanz als Ausgabe drinstehen haben.
      Neu Greenshift hingegen, hat den denn anderen Schnaderadatz drin, um diese Veranstaltung zu bezahlen.....

      irgendwie so: confused:
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      schrieb am 31.01.08 10:11:00
      Beitrag Nr. 8.842 ()
      Bei der DAB noch immer nichts -

      Andere Frage:

      Was ist mit der Verjährungsfrist für jetzt neu eingebuchte Akten?
      Letztlich habe ich (leider) greenshift schon über ein Jahr gehalten.
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      schrieb am 31.01.08 10:23:56
      Beitrag Nr. 8.843 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.222.647 von trader-911 am 31.01.08 09:28:03Guten Morgen,

      meine sind auch eingebucht, allerdings kann ich hier bei w:o unter der WKN -Nr. nichts finden ?:confused:
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      schrieb am 31.01.08 11:15:09
      Beitrag Nr. 8.844 ()
      Hallo,

      wie kann ich den Einstandskurs der 3 Werte berechnen, so dass sie meiner Investition der Greenshift-Shares entsprechen.
      Ich habe 500.000 Stk zu 0,03 € = 15.000 € gekauft.
      Nun möchte ich diese 15.000 € auf die 3 Werte in dem Bezugsverhältnis aufteilen, um zusehen, wann ich meine 15.000 € wieder erreicht habe.

      Formel :confused:
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      schrieb am 31.01.08 11:53:13
      Beitrag Nr. 8.845 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.223.971 von trader-911 am 31.01.08 11:15:09Ich habe fast die gleiche Summe investiert, allerdings nur 100.000 Greenshift erhalten :cry:

      Ich warte einfach ab, ob und bis wir in der Summe wieder so weit sind. Wenn überhaupt. Und wenn meine überhaupt eingebucht werden, bin bei Maxblue, da ist noch nichts los.
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      schrieb am 31.01.08 13:20:38
      Beitrag Nr. 8.846 ()
      Meine 3 wurden heute eingebucht. Es waren die umgerechneten Stücke von den Greenis welche ich am 31.12.2007 im Depot hatte.
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      schrieb am 31.01.08 16:24:26
      Beitrag Nr. 8.847 ()
      Bei mir wurden jetzt u.a. GS Clean Tech A0M9YC und GS Enviro A0MU07 eingebucht.

      Wie und wo kann ich diese verkaufen. Da wird ja kein handelbarer Kurs angezeigt.

      Was soll man machen?
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      schrieb am 31.01.08 17:58:23
      Beitrag Nr. 8.848 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.227.960 von Hotstock1 am 31.01.08 16:24:26GS Clean Tech kannst Du bei DiBa über Börse Frankfurt oder München handeln.

      Viel Erfolg!
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      schrieb am 31.01.08 18:02:57
      Beitrag Nr. 8.849 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.223.971 von trader-911 am 31.01.08 11:15:0915.000€ :eek::eek::eek:, das Geld ist weg:cry:
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      schrieb am 31.01.08 19:06:58
      Beitrag Nr. 8.850 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.229.492 von prom am 31.01.08 18:02:57

      na das geht ja noch, ich kann Dir ja mal flüstern was ich bei GSCL verbrannt habe.............

      Scherz beiseite, der Weg nach New York zum meckern würde sich lohnen.

      Aber denkt an die Worte von André Kostolany.
      Man sieht ja heute wieder, dass die Dummen wieder schmeißen.
      Von Psychologen Seite her kann ich es verstehen, aber man kann ja nicht mal mehr Verluste begrenzen.
      Da muss man jetzt durch und sich die Sache nochmal vor Augen führen.
      Die 20% die sie an YA Global Investments abdrücken sollen, müssen erstmal reinkommen.
      Also Umkehrschluß, da kommt nochmal was.
      Ob ein Gewinn bei rauskommt ist die zweite Frage, jedenfalls wird es einen besseren Zeitpunkt geben um abzugeben.
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      schrieb am 31.01.08 19:52:41
      Beitrag Nr. 8.851 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.229.492 von prom am 31.01.08 18:02:57Na ja, da haste aber am 6.1. und 15.1. noch ganz anders getönt!!:confused:;):confused:;):confused:;):confused:;):confused:;)
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      schrieb am 31.01.08 19:53:16
      Beitrag Nr. 8.852 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.230.310 von trader-911 am 31.01.08 19:06:58....:laugh: auch bei mir sind die papers da – der Gesamtwert ist aber noch niedriger als bei GSHF, nicht gerade berauschend
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      schrieb am 31.01.08 22:09:57
      Beitrag Nr. 8.853 ()
      Kann bitte mal jemand mit Durchblick das heutige Filing kommentieren? Danke!:kiss::kiss::kiss:
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      schrieb am 01.02.08 06:47:34
      Beitrag Nr. 8.854 ()
      Weiss jetzt noch keiner wie ich GS Energy und GS Enviroservices verkaufen kann?

      Die werden ja überhaupt nicht gehandelt!
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      schrieb am 01.02.08 08:20:53
      Beitrag Nr. 8.855 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.234.041 von Hotstock1 am 01.02.08 06:47:34Wie wärs mit ner VK-Order...bestens? :keks: :laugh::laugh:
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      schrieb am 01.02.08 14:53:29
      Beitrag Nr. 8.856 ()
      Rendite ? ja / nein ?
      Was bringt uns noch der Wert ?
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      schrieb am 01.02.08 20:27:46
      Beitrag Nr. 8.857 ()
      mal ein Zitat http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bezugsrecht#Wert_eines_Bezugsre…


      "In der Regel wird sich der Kurs des Bezugsrechtes an der Börse auf diesen Wert einpendeln. Neue Aktien werden meist zu einem niedrigeren Kurs als der derzeitige Börsenkurs der alten Aktien ausgegeben, um den Altaktionären einen Anreiz zur Teilnahme an der Kapitalerhöhung zu geben."
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      schrieb am 02.02.08 13:56:18
      Beitrag Nr. 8.858 ()
      Habe jetzt zu den 100.000 Greenshift zugebucht gekriegt: 10.400 Cleantech, 500.000 Energy und 1.000 Enviroservices. Dolles Ding, was? :keks:

      Und Maxblue hat mir dafür auch noch 19,99 € Gebühr abgezogen, das kommt schon hart an den Wert dieser vielen bunten Scheinchen ran :laugh::laugh::laugh:
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      schrieb am 03.02.08 10:29:40
      Beitrag Nr. 8.859 ()
      Ehrlich gesagt interessiert mich die ganze Sache nur noch am Rande, weil ich die Kohle ohnehin schon abgeschrieben habe. Insofern bin ich hier auch alles andere als auf dem Laufenden. Tatsache ist: Ich habe nun auch diese 3 bunten Scheinchen (wie hier einer bemerkte) zusätzlich zu Greenshift erhalten. Nu hätte ich doch zwei Fragen:
      1. Hier fragen einige ganz verzweifelt, wie sie diese Paradievögelchen wieder loswerden können? Ja warum denn eigentlich? Die sind doch sowieso nichts wert. Also warum wollt ihr sie verkaufen?
      2. Weiß hier irgendjemand wie das in Zukunft weitergeht? Ich habe also Null Ahnung, was hier grundsätzlich passiert ist und passiert. Vielleicht kann jemand, der mehr weiß mal in kurz und einfach (falls möglich) darstellen, was Sache ist.
      Danke!

      Oettes
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      schrieb am 03.02.08 10:37:39
      Beitrag Nr. 8.860 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.253.722 von Oettes am 03.02.08 10:29:40Auf der Benachrichtigung der DIBA steht als Überschrift:
      Kapitalmaßnahme der GreenShift Corp. - Entflechtung/Spin-off

      Was ist das?:confused::D
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      schrieb am 03.02.08 13:50:27
      Beitrag Nr. 8.861 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.253.745 von Oettes am 03.02.08 10:37:39... und hat jemand Ahnung wie das letzte Filing zu deuten ist? Die davor habe ich ja noch ansatzweise irgendwie verstanden aber dieses ist für mich völlig undurchschaubar. Vermute durch das bisher in diesem Geflecht geschehene schon wieder irgendne sauerei - oder wird jetzt doch alles gut???

      Blickt jemand durch und kann 'ne Interpretation geben????:confused::confused::confused:
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      schrieb am 03.02.08 19:09:58
      Beitrag Nr. 8.862 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.254.497 von Green_Power am 03.02.08 13:50:27
      Verstehen kann das keiner mehr.
      Man muss dazu wohl alle SEC Filings nochmal durchschauen, da das mit dem Schuldenabbau meines Erachtens nicht ganz so koscher ist.
      Was soll das mit GS COES jetzt schon wieder?

      Naja, was soll's, hier hat man jedenfalls genug Gesprächsstoff.

      Das tollste ist doch am Schluss von Seite 46, 47 bis 48.
      KK hat jedenfalls genug Arbeit um sein Geflecht am leben zu erhalten.
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      schrieb am 03.02.08 21:39:52
      Beitrag Nr. 8.863 ()
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      schrieb am 03.02.08 21:50:37
      Beitrag Nr. 8.864 ()
      Der Betrag von 0,009 USD entspricht 0,0061 EUR
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      schrieb am 04.02.08 19:20:42
      Beitrag Nr. 8.865 ()
      meine güte
      hier entsteht ein produzent der seine eigene technik etwickelt und vermarktet, da kann man ja wohl mal 3 jahre geduld mit bringen, oder?
      2 jahre sind erst vorbei und sie haben schon einiges geschafft.
      starrt nicht immer auf den kurs.
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      schrieb am 04.02.08 20:35:17
      Beitrag Nr. 8.866 ()
      GS EnviroServices Gibt Aktienkauf-Abmachung Bekannt
      2/4/2008

      BELEGTER BUTTERBROT, Masse. am 4. Febr 2008 (GESCHÄFTSLEITUNG)--
      Am 25. Januar 2008, GS EnviroServices (außerbörslich: GSEN) schloss einen Aktienkauf-Vertrag mit GS CleanTech Aktiengesellschaft (OTCBB: GSCL), der 15 Millionen Aktien der Stammaktien von GS EnviroServices besaß, 53 % der ausgegebenen Aktien vertretend. Die Abmachung vorausgesetzt, dass GS CleanTech zu GS EnviroServices 8.733.333 Aktien von GS EnviroServices Stammaktien übergeben würde. Im Austausch GS gab EnviroServices eine konvertierbare Schuldverschreibung von 2.000.000 $ zu YA Globalen Investitionen, LP ("YAGI") aus, und YAGI annullierte 2.000.000 $ der Verschuldung geschuldet dazu durch GS CleanTech.

      Die Aktienkauf-Abmachung, verbunden mit einer Brief-Abmachung zwischen GS EnviroServices und YAGI, bestimmt weiter dass, wenn GS EnviroServices 1.000.000 $ YAGI auf oder vor dem 1. Mai 2008 bezahlt, dann wird das Bleiben 6.266.667 Aktien von GS EnviroServices besessen durch GS CleanTech GS EnviroServices übertragen.

      Als ein Teil dieser Transaktionen GS gewährte CleanTech eine Vertretung dem Verwaltungsrat von GS EnviroServices das Bevollmächtigen den Ausschuss, die Aktien von GS EnviroServices jetzt im Namen GS CleanTech zu wählen. Die Vertretung in Bezug auf die gegen 2.000.000 $ ausgetauschten 8.733.333 endet im Falle eines Verzugs durch GS EnviroServices seiner Kreditverpflichtungen zu YAGI. Die Vertretung in Bezug auf die 6.266.667 Aktien wird am 1. Mai 2008 enden.

      Die Gesicherte Konvertierbare Schuldverschreibung, dass GS EnviroServices ausgegeben zu YAGI an 10 % pro Jahr, zahlbar monatlich Zinsen erbringt. Hauptzahlungen werden wie folgt erwartet sein:

      -- $1,000,000 erwartet am 11. Februar 2008;

      -- $27,777.77 erwartet am 10. März 2008 und am ersten Werktag jedes Monats danach (obwohl YAGI jede solche Monatszahlung zum Fälligkeitsdatum aufschieben kann);

      -- Der schuldige Betrag am 11. Februar 2009 (das "Fälligkeitsdatum").

      Weitere Details in Bezug auf die Schuldverschreibung können in der mit der Börsenaufsichtsbehörde abgelegten Enthüllung von 8 Kilobyte der Gesellschaft gefunden werden.

      "Wir sind überzeugt, dass die erste Million-Dollar-Zahlung auf einer rechtzeitigen Basis am 11. Februar 2008 geleistet wird," bemerkte James Green, Präsident und CEO. "Unsere Vereinigung mit GS CleanTech und GreenShift wird pro diese Abmachungen enden, und wir wünschen unsere Kollegen dort großer Erfolg mit ihren alternativen Energieversuchen. Wir werden konzentriert unser Umweltdienstleistungsgeschäft und hoffentlich bleiben, werden unsere Tendenz des gewinnbringenden Wachstums fortsetzen. Wir werden unsere Aktionäre informiert über unseren Fortschritt in diesem Gebiet halten und sie aktualisiert auf unserem Fortschritt auf dem Gehorsam der Zahlungsbedingungen der Schuldverschreibung halten."

      Über GS EnviroServices Aktiengesellschaft

      GS EnviroServices Aktiengesellschaft stellt variierte Umweltverwaltungsdienstleistungen, einschließlich Mehrwert-, umweltsmäßig bewusst und rentabel gefährlich und Industrieabfall-Verwaltungsdienstleistungen beruhend auf das effiziente Management der Verschwendung und mit einem Fokus auf höheren technischen Lösungen für das Management zur Verfügung, wiederverwendend und den Wiedergebrauch der Verschwendung. GS EnviroServicesstellt auch Seite-Wiedervermittlung und Umwelttechnikdienstleistungen zur Verfügung und bedient ein Ressourcenschutz- und Wiederherstellungsgesetz (RCRA) Teil B erlaubte TDSF, und technische und Felddienstzentren überall im Neuen England
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      schrieb am 04.02.08 20:40:56
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.264.845 von louisaner am 04.02.08 19:20:42Gut gesagt. Hier braucht es noch einiges an Geduld, aber die ist eben auch in den letzten zwei Jahren schon ganz schön strapaziert worden, so dass ich Ungeduld verstehen kann. Vielleicht tut sich irgendwann ab Sommer ja schon etwas Erfreuliches für die Aktionäre!
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      schrieb am 05.02.08 11:49:28
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      http://www.greenshift.com/ wird auf http://www.gs-cleantech.com/ umgeleitet.
      Davon mal ab, das tagsüber eine Fehlermeldung vom DB-QUERY angezeigt wird, wird wohl zum 15.02. oder 29.02. die Meldung kommen, dass man die Umstrukturierung erfolgreich abgeschlossen hat.

      Aber am 11.02. ist erstmal abzuwarten, ob GS ENVIROSERVICES die 1.Mio bezahlen können.
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      schrieb am 06.02.08 14:24:51
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.270.133 von trader-911 am 05.02.08 11:49:28Das Kürzel "GSEN" ist tot. Hat jemand eine Ahnung?
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      schrieb am 06.02.08 15:45:18
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.283.598 von frikri am 06.02.08 14:24:51Korrektur, jetzt ist es wieder zum Leben erweckt worden.
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      schrieb am 07.02.08 14:08:08
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      Gibts im Keller Licht , damit wir den Ausgang finden.
      Oder bleibt es finster ?
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      schrieb am 09.02.08 03:10:30
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      hallo leute, ich hätte da ne frage an euch gerichtet. ich wunder mich das ich in meinem depot immer noch die aktie von greenshift habe, ich dachte die anderen drei aktienpackete der tochterunternehmen gab es im tausch gegen diese oder wie durfte ich das verstehen??

      gruß :confused: :yawn:
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      schrieb am 09.02.08 13:36:05
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.317.395 von hamletberlin33 am 09.02.08 03:10:30Sie erhalten für eine Aktie der Greenshift Corp. die am 31.12.2007 abends in Ihrem Bestand war zusätzlich
      5 Aktien der...., 0,104 Aktien der....., und 0,01 Aktien der .....

      EX Tag für die Entflechtung, (Spin-off) 02.01. 2008
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      schrieb am 10.02.08 08:38:46
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      Washington (dpa) - Die Produktion von Biosprit kann den Klimawandel in vielen Fällen drastisch beschleunigen. Denn allein durch das Anpflanzen von Mais, Raps oder Palmöl entstehen oft mehr Treibhausgase als durch die daraus gewonnenen Biokraftstoffe eingespart werden.
      Das geht aus drei Studien hervor, die in den Journalen "Science" (online vorab veröffentlicht) und "Atmospheric Chemistry and Physics" veröffentlich werden. Für Biosprit wird Tropenwald zerstört und in Agrarland umgewandelt.
      Zudem setzt Dünger nach Auskunft des Chemie-Nobelpreisträgers Paul Crutzen wesentlich mehr des gefährlichen Treibhausgases Lachgas frei als bislang gedacht. Lediglich Kraftstoffe aus Abfällen in Land- und Forstwirtschaft oder aus Gräsern mit weniger Düngereinsatz weisen demnach eine gute Klimabilanz auf.
      Durch die Brandrodung in Indonesien entstehe mehr als 400 Mal so viel Kohlendioxid wie mit Hilfe von Palmöl auf derselben Fläche pro Jahr gespart werden könne, berichtet Hauptautor Joe Fargione von der Umweltorganisation The Nature Conservancy in "Science". Brasilianischer Regenwald, der in Soja-Plantagen umgewandelt wird, setze 300 Mal mehr Kohlendioxid frei als der Biosprit pro Jahr spare.

      Ein Team um Timothy Searchinger von der Princeton University berechnete in einer "Science"-Studie, dass die Produktion von Ethanol aus Mais den Ausstoß der Treibhausgase für 167 Jahre erhöht, wenn dafür eigens Land umgewandelt wurde.
      "Wenn man die globale Erwärmung bremsen möchte, macht es schlicht keinen Sinn, Land für Biosprit umzuwandeln", erklärt Fargione in eine Mitteilung seiner Universität. Und er verweist noch auf die mögliche Knappheit von Nahrungsmitteln. "Die weltweite Landwirtschaft produziert derzeit Nahrung für sechs Milliarden Menschen." Für die Produktion von Biosprit wäre es nötig, noch mehr Land in Agrarflächen umzuwandeln. Südafrika verschob kürzlich die geplante Biosprit- Produktion aus Mais, weil die Pflanze Grundnahrungsmittel besonders für arme Familien in dem Land ist.
      Nach Angaben des Nobelpreisträgers Crutzen vom Max-Planck- Institut für Chemie in Mainz setzt der benötigte Pflanzendünger drei bis fünfmal mehr Lachgas frei als der Weltklimarat IPCC bislang angenommen hat ("Atmospheric Chemistry and Physics", Bd. 8, S. 389). Das stickstoffhaltige Lachgas erwärmt die Atmosphäre 300 Mal so stark wie Kohlendioxid. Biodiesel aus Raps sei schon aus diesem Grund 1 bis 1,7 Mal klimaschädlicher als normaler Treibstoff, Bioethanol aus Mais bis zu 1,5 Mal. 80 Prozent des weltweiten Biodiesels werde aus Raps produziert. Nur Zuckerrohr kommt günstiger weg, da es nicht oder wenig gedüngt werde. Nach Ansicht von Searchinger darf dafür jedoch kein Regenwald gerodet werden.
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      schrieb am 10.02.08 21:31:31
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.322.538 von Public_Relations am 10.02.08 08:38:46Wo hast Du denn diese News noch überall reingesetzt. Das ist natürlich nicht ganz falsch, aber Ethanol wird dennoch ein Bestandteil des neuen Energiemixes in den USA sein, davon bin ich überzeugt. Das schon allein aus folgendem Grund, wie schon in manch anderem Ethanol-Thread auf dieses Posting geantwortet wurde:

      Pacific Ethanol ist ein strategisches Investment.

      Für die U.S.A. ist es wichtig das sie sicher mit Treibstoff versorgt werden.
      Es ist für die Amerikaner völlig bedeutungslos, ob die Umwelt dadurch in Mitleidenschaft gezogen wird oder nicht.
      Wichtig ist die Versorgungssicherheit.
      Deswegen werden sie die Ethanolbranche nicht sterben lassen .

      (von codiman)

      Ethanol wird kommen, die Frage ist nur wann... ...
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      schrieb am 10.02.08 21:32:47
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.325.462 von weissnichtbescheid am 10.02.08 21:31:31Was für Pacific Ethanol, Vera Sun usw. gilt, gilt auch für Greenshift.
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      schrieb am 11.02.08 09:39:11
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.325.469 von weissnichtbescheid am 10.02.08 21:32:47Hi,

      dies wird sich ebenfalls sehr positiv auf Silverados Green Fuel auswirken!
      Insbesondere deren CO 2 freies (LRCWF)Herstellungsverfahren.
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      schrieb am 11.02.08 11:44:12
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.322.538 von Public_Relations am 10.02.08 08:38:46Diese wissenschaftlichen Erkenntnisse sind die eine Seite, die Andere ist, die Welt braucht zum Erdöl, was nun mal irgend wann auf dieser Erde verbraucht ist, Alternativen!
      Die Welt und die Indutrie ist energiehungrig.
      Das Uran wird,nach neuesten Erkenntnissen auch nicht ewig reichen , um Srom zu erzeugen.
      Von der Wasserstoff - Energie Problematik sind wir noch meilenweit entfernt , so interessant das Thema ist.
      Sonnen - und Windkraft werden auf Dauer nur eine Ergänzung darstellen.
      Wasserkraft ebenso.
      Zur Zeit macht es der Energie - Mix und dazu gehören auch Biospritt-
      erzeuger !
      Mann muß meiner Meinung nach natürlich nicht Wälder abholzen um dort Mais etc. anzubauen.
      Es gibt eine imense Menge brachliegender landwirtschaftlicher Fläche auf dieser Welt, die man optimaler nutzen könnte.
      Außerdem gehen die Technologien auf dem Biospritt - Sektor auch weiter.
      In 5 jahren gibt es einen anderen Stand als jetzt usw. !
      Also - die Ethanolherstellung aus Biomasse ist für mich schon einThema !
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      schrieb am 11.02.08 16:02:11
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.328.368 von Nuggettransfer am 11.02.08 11:44:12Sagt mal wer von euch hat auch nach dem 12.12 verkauf und ist auf die komische PR von Greenshift reingefallen?Habe bis heute dafür nichts eingebucht bekommen?
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      schrieb am 11.02.08 20:16:20
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      NAME/SYMBOL CHANGES

      Updated Date Old Symbol Old Name New Symbol New Name Comment
      14:07 2/12/2008 GSEG GS Energy Corporation Common Stock ESYM EcoSystem Corporation Common Stock 1-500 R/S**
      14:07 2/12/2008 GSHF GreenShift Corporation Common Stock CICS Carbonics Capital Corp Common Stock 1-20 R/S**
      14:07 2/12/2008 WNCF Wincroft, Inc. Common Stock WCRF Wincroft, Inc. Common Stock 1-8 R/S; Reincorporation from Co to NV**
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      schrieb am 12.02.08 12:22:40
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.334.511 von axcol am 11.02.08 20:16:20GS Energy sind heute in meine Depot nicht handelbar. Die Namensänderung wird also aktuell vollzogen.

      MFG
      ManuBaby
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      schrieb am 12.02.08 12:35:50
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      mit re split

      bedeutet mal gleich satte 50% minus nachdem ihr wieder handeln könnt
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      schrieb am 12.02.08 12:52:52
      Beitrag Nr. 8.883 ()
      Hier kann man nur auf den großen Turnaround hoffen. Alles oder nichts. 50% im Minus, das ist hier gar nichts! ;)
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      schrieb am 12.02.08 13:11:33
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      ärgerliche sache!

      scheint das einem von euch realistisch, dass der wert nach dem split nochmal zum leben erweckt wird?

      gruß sd
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      schrieb am 12.02.08 17:32:05
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.340.564 von zaza85 am 12.02.08 13:11:33Schaut euch mal ESYM an!!!
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      schrieb am 13.02.08 11:22:39
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      tut sich hier jetzt garnichtsmehr?:confused::confused::confused:

      weder in den usa noch hier bewegt sich was....:(

      was ist da los?:confused:
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      schrieb am 13.02.08 14:06:18
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.352.253 von zaza85 am 13.02.08 11:22:39
      February 13, 2008 - 7:56 AM EST

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      GreenShift Executes Agreement with United Ethanol to Extract Corn Oil
      GreenShift Corporation (OTC Bulletin Board: GERS) today announced its execution of an agreement with United Ethanol, LLC (www.unitedethanol.com), to initially extract up to 1.5 million gallons per year of crude corn oil from the distillers grain co-product from United Ethanol’s new dry mill ethanol plant.

      United Ethanol began operating in March 2007 and has demonstrated its commitment to the advancement of ethanol production through its agreements with GreenShift (to extract and sell corn oil), EPCO Carbon Dioxide, Inc. (to bottle and sell carbon dioxide), Environmental Credit Corporation and Carbon Green, LLC (to monetize carbon credits).

      GreenShift’s patent-pending Corn Oil Extraction Systems™ have been engineered to help ethanol producers increase cash flows through the introduction of a third and novel revenue stream – corn oil. GreenShift provides turn-key extraction systems to participating ethanol producers at no cost to the ethanol producers in return for the long-term right to purchase the extracted corn oil at a per pound premium to its value when trapped in the distiller’s grains. GreenShift’s extraction technology also reduces overall plant emissions and utility costs by upwards of $1 million per year for a 100 million gallon per year ethanol plant that dries 100% of its distiller’s grains.

      Kevin Kreisler, GreenShift’s chairman said that “Corn ethanol producers recognize the need to use technology to enhance margins and defray risk. The best way to do this is to implement “plug and play” technologies that enhance the yields and operating efficiencies of traditional ethanol production process. Our corn oil extraction technology is the first of several technologies that meet that goal that we are bringing to market and we are excited by the opportunity to work with United Ethanol.”

      Focus on Ethanol Production

      GreenShift is focused on delivering technologies and process innovations to the ethanol production industry with a view towards maximizing the yield of corn-based ethanol production. GreenShift’s currently available offerings in its ethanol program include its:

      Corn oil extraction systems;
      Integral biodiesel production systems; and,
      Integral biomass gasification for combined heat and power solutions.
      GreenShift is also developing new technologies, such as its carbon dioxide algal bioreactor technology, for application at ethanol facilities.

      Traditional ethanol processing converts each bushel of corn, which weighs about 54 pounds, into about 18 pounds of ethanol, 18 pounds of carbon dioxide, and 18 pounds of distillers dried grains, which contain about 2 pounds of fat. This corresponds to about 2.8 gallons of fuel production per bushel of corn. GreenShift's ambition is to increase this efficiency as much as possible by converting as co-products such as DDG and carbon dioxide into additional renewable fuels.

      About GreenShift Corporation

      GreenShift Corporation (OTC Bulletin Board: GERS) develops and commercializes clean technologies that facilitate the efficient use of natural resources. GreenShift’s ambition is to catalyze disruptive environmental gains by creating valuable opportunities for a great many people and companies to use resources more efficiently and to be more profitable.

      GreenShift’s view is that the first and best way to achieve its mission today is to facilitate the more efficient production and use of biomass-derived fuels. GreenShift does this today by developing and integrating new clean technologies into existing biofuel production facilities, by selling equipment and services based on its technologies, and by using its technologies to directly produce and sell biomass-derived oils and fuels.

      Additional information on GreenShift and its current operations will be made available online on GreenShift’s new website at www.greenshift.com later this month.

      Safe Harbor Statement

      This press release contains statements that may constitute "forward-looking statements" within the meaning of the Securities Act of 1933 and the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended by the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Those statements include statements regarding the intent, belief or current expectations of GreenShift Corporation and members of its management as well as the assumptions on which such statements are based. Prospective investors are cautioned that any such forward-looking statements are not guarantees of future performance and involve risks and uncertainties, and that actual results may differ materially from those contemplated by such forward-looking statements. Important factors currently known to management that could cause actual results to differ materially from those in forward-statements include fluctuation of operating results, the ability to compete successfully, and the ability to complete before-mentioned transactions. The company undertakes no obligation to update or revise forward-looking statements to reflect changed assumptions, the occurrence of unanticipated events or changes to future operating results.

      GreenShift Corporation
      Phone: 212-994-5374
      Fax: 646-572-6336
      investorrelations@greenshift.com
      www.greenshift.com
      or
      CEOcast, Inc.
      Phone: 212-732-4300



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      schrieb am 13.02.08 14:08:06
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.354.202 von kirroyal am 13.02.08 14:06:18
      Sorry, falscher Thread !
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      schrieb am 13.02.08 14:35:58
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.354.202 von kirroyal am 13.02.08 14:06:18Na, das ist ja endlich wieder einmal etwas! :)
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      schrieb am 13.02.08 15:13:17
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.354.590 von weissnichtbescheid am 13.02.08 14:35:58ja das stimmt...

      die frage ist nur, ob das reicht, uns aus dem tal der tränen zu führen...:keks:

      --------------------------------------

      habe vorhin mit dem kundenservice von sbroker gesprochen um mich mal schlau zu machen, wie lange der handel denn wohl noch ausgesetzt bleibt.
      konnte sie mir natürlich auch nix verbindliches zu sagen. lediglich das der firmenzweig ausgegliedert und umfirmiert wird.
      von einem split war in dem zusammenhang nicht die rede.
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      schrieb am 13.02.08 15:54:35
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.354.590 von weissnichtbescheid am 13.02.08 14:35:58
      Ist aber leider die falsche Greenshift ! GERS
      Unsere GSGH heißt jetzt Carbonics Capital , CICS !

      Im ersten Moment habe ich auch geglaubt, es geht um unsere !:(
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      schrieb am 13.02.08 16:02:10
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.355.719 von kirroyal am 13.02.08 15:54:35
      Sorry, ich kenne mich nicht mehr aus !:confused:

      February 13, 2008 - 8:19 AM EST

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      GreenShift Corporation Makes Announcement
      GreenShift Corporation (OTC Bulletin Board: GERS) today announced that, as of the close of business on February 11, 2008, its name change from “GS CleanTech Corporation” to “GreenShift Corporation” became effective.

      Commencing today, February 13, 2008, GreenShift’s shares will be quoted on the OTC Bulletin Board under the trading symbol GERS.

      About GreenShift Corporation

      GreenShift Corporation (OTC Bulletin Board: GERS) develops and commercializes clean technologies that facilitate the efficient use of natural resources. GreenShift’s ambition is to catalyze disruptive environmental gains by creating valuable opportunities for a great many people and companies to use resources more efficiently and to be more profitable.

      GreenShift’s view is that the first and best way to achieve its mission today is to facilitate the more efficient production and use of biomass-derived fuels. GreenShift does this today by developing and integrating new clean technologies into existing biofuel production facilities, by selling equipment and services based on its technologies, and by using its technologies to directly produce and sell biomass-derived oils and fuels.

      Additional information on GreenShift and its current operations will be made available online on GreenShift’s new website at www.greenshift.com later this month.

      Safe Harbor Statement

      This press release contains statements that may constitute "forward-looking statements" within the meaning of the Securities Act of 1933 and the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended by the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Those statements include statements regarding the intent, belief or current expectations of GreenShift Corporation and members of its management as well as the assumptions on which such statements are based. Prospective investors are cautioned that any such forward-looking statements are not guarantees of future performance and involve risks and uncertainties, and that actual results may differ materially from those contemplated by such forward-looking statements. Important factors currently known to management that could cause actual results to differ materially from those in forward-statements include fluctuation of operating results, the ability to compete successfully, and the ability to complete before-mentioned transactions. The company undertakes no obligation to update or revise forward-looking statements to reflect changed assumptions, the occurrence of unanticipated events or changes to future operating results.



      GreenShift Corporation
      212-994-5374
      Fax: 646-572-6336
      investorrelations@greenshift.com
      www.greenshift.com
      or
      Investor Relations:
      CEOcast, Inc.
      212-732-4300



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      schrieb am 13.02.08 18:17:02
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.355.856 von kirroyal am 13.02.08 16:02:10Zur Info:


      http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=en&u=http://b…
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      schrieb am 13.02.08 18:23:37
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.357.816 von chorodoro am 13.02.08 18:17:02
      Danke !:)
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      schrieb am 13.02.08 19:36:46
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      GREENSHIFT CORP
      Carbonics Capital Corporation Makes Announcement Carbonics Capital Corporation macht Meldung
      2/12/2008 2/12/2008
      NEW YORK, Feb 12, 2008 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- NEW YORK, Feb 12, 2008 (BUSINESS WIRE) --

      Carbonics Capital Corporation (OTC Bulletin Board: CICS) today announced that, as of the close of business on February 11, 2008, its name change from "GreenShift Corporation" to "Carbonics Capital Corporation" and its 1 for 20 reverse stock split became effective. Carbonics Capital Corporation (OTC Bulletin Board: CICS) gab heute bekannt, dass zum Geschäftsschluss am 11. Februar 2008, dessen Name sich von "GreenShift Corporation" auf "Carbonics Capital Corporation" und 1 für seine 20 umgekehrter Aktiensplit wirksam geworden .

      Commencing today, February 12, 2008, Carbonics' shares will be quoted on the OTC Bulletin Board under the trading symbol CICS. Beginnt heute, 12. Februar 2008, Carbonics' Aktien werden notiert im OTC Bulletin Board unter dem Handels-Symbol CICS.

      Additional information on Carbonics and its new business model will be made available online at www.carbonicscapital.com in March 2008. Zusätzliche Informationen über Carbonics und seine neue Business-Modell zur Verfügung gestellt werden online at www.carbonicscapital.com im März 2008.
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      schrieb am 13.02.08 20:07:26
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.357.913 von kirroyal am 13.02.08 18:23:37Ist schon OK!

      Denke, daß der Diskussionsboard hier ausgedient hat. Hab mal vorsorglich bei CICS einen neuen eröffnet. Sehr gute Infos auch direkt bei Unitedethanol.com abrufbar.
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      schrieb am 14.02.08 16:26:07
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      Habe betr. ecosystem einen Thread eröffnet...:cool:
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      schrieb am 14.02.08 16:53:38
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      Moment mal. Aber war das nicht so, dass GS Clean Tech zugleich in Greenshift umbenannt werden soll. Dann ist der Thread hier nicht überflüssig geworden!
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      schrieb am 14.02.08 21:32:49
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      GERS.OB

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      schrieb am 15.02.08 22:40:51
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      Damit es klar ist: Greenshift (GERS.OB) ist jetzt das ehemalige Clean Tech. Und in diesem Sinne sollte der Thread hier weitergeführt werden, denn CISC.OB als die ehemalige Greenshift, ist nicht mehr von Belang. Greenshift/ehem. Cleantech aber integriert ab 29.2 GS Agrifuels:

      Press Release Source: GreenShift Corporation / GS AgriFuels Corporation


      GreenShift Makes Announcement
      Friday February 15, 3:53 pm ET


      NEW YORK--(BUSINESS WIRE)--GreenShift Corporation (OTC Bulletin Board: GERS - News) and its agrifuels subsidiary, GS AgriFuels Corporation (OTC Bulletin Board: GSGF - News), today announced the final record date and payment date for its previously announced plan to take GS AgriFuels private.
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      On February 29, 2008, GreenShift will transfer its interest in the capital stock of GS AgriFuels to a new wholly-owned subsidiary of GreenShift and then the new subsidiary will merge GS AgriFuels into itself in accordance with the short-form merger procedures provided in Section 253 of the Delaware General Corporation Law.

      At the close of business on February 29, 2008, the common stock of GS AgriFuels will be delisted from the OTC Bulletin Board, and will become non-transferable.

      On or before March 31, 2008, all shareholders of GS AgriFuels as of February 29, 2008, other than the new GreenShift subsidiary, will receive a cash payment of $0.50 per share held in GS AgriFuels and will thereafter cease to be shareholders of GS AgriFuels as a result of these transactions.

      About GreenShift Corporation

      GreenShift Corporation (OTC Bulletin Board: GERS - News) develops and commercializes clean technologies that facilitate the efficient use of natural resources. GreenShift’s ambition is to catalyze disruptive environmental gains by creating valuable opportunities for a great many people and companies to use resources more efficiently and to be more profitable.

      GreenShift’s view is that the first and best way to achieve its mission today is to facilitate the more efficient production and use of biomass-derived fuels. GreenShift does this by developing and integrating new clean technologies into existing biofuel production facilities, by selling equipment and services based on its technologies, and by using its technologies to directly produce and sell biomass-derived oils and fuels.

      Additional information on GreenShift and its current operations will be made available online on GreenShift’s new website at www.greenshift.com later this month.
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      schrieb am 15.02.08 22:42:10
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.387.852 von weissnichtbescheid am 15.02.08 22:40:51Irgendwann gewöhnen wir uns auch daran wieder. Aber diese schlechten Späßchen sollten jetzt endlich einmal vorüber sein!
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      schrieb am 19.02.08 18:54:19
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      schrieb am 19.02.08 18:55:08
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      Hier ein Auszug (ist ziemlich lang):

      Our Planned Production Facilities

      -- Expansion of Our Oilseed Crushing Facility


      We are currently raising about $6.6 million in conventional debt and about $1.2 million in equity to expand our Montana-based 100 ton per day oilseed crushing facility to 600 tons per day. This financing is expected to close within the next few months and the expansion of this facility is expected to be completed later this year.

      Once the expansion is complete and we scale up to full production, this plant is expected to generate more than $80 million per year in oil sales and $12 million in annualized EBITDA at current market prices.
      -- Construction of Additional Corn Oil Extraction and Co-Located Biodiesel Production Facilities


      We have executed agreements to construct many more GreenShift-owned corn oil extraction facilities. We also have agreements in place today to build biodiesel facilities on-site at Global Ethanol's Lakota, Iowa ethanol facility and Northeast Biofuels' Fulton, New York ethanol facility.

      Our goal is to have at least 50 million gallons per year of both (1) corn oil extraction and (2) biodiesel production capacity online by the end of 2009. At current market prices, 50 million gallons per year of corn oil derived biodiesel corresponds to more than $180 million in annualized sales and more than $50 million in annualized EBITDA.

      We plan to finance the construction of these additional corn oil extraction and biodiesel production facilities with a combination of cash flows from existing GreenShift production facilities and about $150 million in conventional debt and equity. We believe that a raise of this magnitude is very feasible given the successful coupling of our now-proven extraction and biodiesel technologies, our long term right to purchase crude corn oil at rates that are hedged to our biodiesel offtake markets in sufficient quantities to easily service our debt, and strong ethanol market driven demand for our extraction technology.

      We have engaged Fieldstone Private Capital Group (www.fpcg.com) to complete this raise and we expect to close on the financing required for an additional 20 million gallons of contracted corn oil extraction capacity as well as our first two GreenShift-owned biodiesel facilities in Lakota, Iowa and Fulton, New York during the first half of 2008.



      Where We Are Going

      Our corn oil offering allows our ethanol clients, their financial partners and their other stakeholders to rapidly access better than 40% of the value of the corn oil locked in the distillers grains with no capital expense. By participating in our program, our corn ethanol clients can shore up their margins and reduce some of their commodity risk because we purchase their oil for a price that is indexed off of the diesel spot market. By providing our clients with these benefits, we have created a long-term hedged feedstock market for our own biodiesel production.

      The potential size of this market opportunity to us is more than 1 billion gallons per year of oil. Our initial goal is to achieve 20% market share as quickly as possible. Importantly, we can do this almost entirely out of our cash flows after we finance and deploy the first 50 million gallons per year of corn oil extraction and biodiesel production capacity.

      While we have a lengthy head start, we understand that objects in our rear view mirror are closer than they appear. We plan to maintain our technology leadership by doing more of what we have done. While many push for second generation biofuels technologies (which are vitally necessary), we will continue to push incrementally through extraction (Gen 1.1) to biodiesel (Gen 1.2) to biomass-derived heat and power (Gen 1.3) to biomass-derived liquid fuels (Gen 1.4) to carbon dioxide derived liquid fuels (Gen 1.5) and so on.

      In other words, we are just going to keep shifting.

      We are going to execute into and grow from our current book of business and, in the process, I personally believe that we will build great value for our shareholders contributing to a cause that is bigger than we will ever be.

      We have an exceptionally talented team of technologists and process engineers that are directly responsible for making GreenShift one of few profitable cleantech biofuels companies in market today. I find this to simply be remarkable and it is high time for the message to become clear.

      With the restructuring behind us, our story will no longer be spread across multiple public entities – we now have one brand, one company and one consolidated shareholder base. Know that our entire team is looking forward with great anticipation to continued growth, success and driving increased shareholder value.

      We are grateful for your patience and support and we look forward to our next communication.

      Best Regards,
      Kevin Kreisler
      Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
      GreenShift Corporation
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      schrieb am 02.04.08 18:29:15
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      schrieb am 20.05.08 19:20:29
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.791.747 von horue am 02.04.08 18:29:15

      http://www.greenshift.com/financial.php?mode=2&qm_page=65553
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      schrieb am 11.09.08 11:29:43
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      What's now?
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      schrieb am 11.09.08 11:53:33
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 35.060.174 von Loewe2004 am 11.09.08 11:29:43Im anderen Greenshift Thread wird noch weiter gepostet!
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