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[Monte-Carlo]

unter www.finance-online.de könnt ihr es nachlesen.

Commerce One und Boing bauen gemeinsam eine Online-Plattform zum Handel von Flugzeugteilen.
Auch meinen die, daß sich Commerce One so langsam von Ariba absetzten kann, da die Aufträge von höherer Qualität sind.
Ich denke auch, daß Cmrc langsam wirklich der beste b2b-Wert ist.
Für den Kurs denke ich, wird es trotzdem nur leicht nach oben gehen.
Mit b2b-Aktien ist momentan nicht so viel Geld zu verdienen.
Trotzdem ich halte an den Kurszielen fest: 1000 $ (ohne Split) bis Ende des Jahres

[moneyfuchs]

hallo,

bin auch mit je 100 Stück in CMRC und VERT inverstiert. Habe darüber
hinaus noch 200 Stück Commerzbank B2B-Zertifikate (WPKN 101339). Will
mir noch 100 ARBA zulegen. Dann bin ich für die nächsten Jahre gut
gerüstet. Tippe, daß CMRC, ARBA und VERT ca. 800 Euro (ohne Split)
bis Ende 2000 erreichen können. Das Zertifikat wird sich dann mindes-
tens verdoppeln. Ob CMRC, VERT oder ARBA besser ist, kann keiner sagen.

mfg moneyfuchs

[joekramer]

1000 Euro .... träum weiter ....
mittelfristig halte ich zwar eine moderate Kurserhöung für möglich, aber
1000 Euro bis Ende des Jahres sind unrealistisch...
Hast du dir dann mal die Marktkapitalisierung angeschaut??

Cu

Joe

[Qwax]

Die Marktkapitalisierung von cmrc ist im Vergleich zu
Ariba ja noch relativ gering - besonders wenn man an die
mittlerweile doch recht honorige Kundschaft denkt
Das Problem von cmrc ist wohl, dass sie noch keine
anständige software für den vertikalen Handel ihrer
Kunden besitzt
Hier sind ihr sap, oracle und Ariba voraus.
Wie stark sich dieses Manko auf den Kurs auswirkt, werden wir
wohl in den nächsten Wochen sehen - der entsprechende
Analyst aus dem B2B Bereich hat ihr aus diesem Grunde jedoch
eine "buy" rating verwehrt.
Gruss

[Qwax]

Nachtrag:
bei dem oben angespochenen Analyst handelt es sich um
G. Gilbert von CSFB.
nachzulesen bei CBS Marketwatch

[DimStar]

nicht ganz, Qwax

er verweigerte das buy-rating, da sein arbeitgeber aktuell beratungsdienste für cmrc leistet.

Gilbert: I`m restricted on a lot of my names because we`ve been advisers on the Aspect (ASDV: news, msgs) and I2 mergers, but they were the foremost providers of the rich collaboration marketplace software. I can`t actually recommend purchase of them right now.


Then there`s Commerce One and Ariba which are the two leading platforms for conducting multiple types of transactions between buyers and sellers without adding all this rich collaboration software right now. I can`t give you a "buy" recommendation on Commerce One because I`m similarly restricted on that. But they fall into this same category where people are investing heavily in this infrastructure.

[Qwax]

Jau, hab ich wohl etwas zu flott gelesen...
cmrc steigt aber leider trotzdem nicht..

[ultimo]

hier das neueste ---- stroooong buy.yippih28.03.2000
Commerce One kaufen
Berliner Börsenbrief


Die Experten vom Berliner Börsenbrief empfehlen derzeit die Aktien von Commerce One (WKN 924107) zum Kauf.

Der Anbieter von Business-to-Business (B2B) Handelsplattformen im Internet dehne sein globales Netzwerk aus und erweitere es um zwei sehr interessante Handelsplätze.

Zum einen werde in Zusammenarbeit mit sieben verschiedenen ortsansässigen Unternehmen in Hongkong eine B2B-Plattform aufgebaut. Diese biete Unterehmen die Möglichkeit, auf das globale Handelsnetz von Commerce One zuzugreifen. Allein das Handelsvolumen der sieben beteiligten Unternehmen mache rund 20% des Bruttoinlandsprodukts von Hongkong aus.

Die zweite Handelsplattform decke den Markt Südafrika ab. Gemeinsam mit Sasol, Südafrikas größtem Produzenten von synthetischen Treibstoffen und Chemieprodukten, werde die bestehende Handels-Community erweitert.

Auch in anderen Bereichen könne Commerce One Zuwächse an Teilnehmern verzeichnen. Diese Neuigkeiten würden kräftig Geld in die Kassen von Commerce One spülen.


und der aktiensplit steht bevor

1:1
also zugreifen im moment - 6$ an der nas

[buckweiser]

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Boeing, Lockheed Martin, BAE SYSTEMS and Raytheon to Create B2B Exchange for the Aerospace and Defense Industry
Global Trading Exchange To Be Powered By Commerce One and Microsoft
LONDON and NEW YORK--(BUSINESS WIRE)--March 28, 2000-- An aerospace and defense industry group including The Boeing Company (NYSE: BA), Lockheed Martin Corporation (NYSE: LMT), BAE SYSTEMS, Raytheon Company (NYSE: RTNA, RTNB) and B2B e-commerce solutions leader Commerce One (NASDQ: CMRC) today announced the creation of an independent enterprise that will develop an Internet trading exchange for the global aerospace and defense industry. This open aerospace and defense exchange, based on the Commerce One MarketSite Portal Solution, powered by Microsoft, will be a secure, electronic marketplace where buyers and sellers around the world can conduct business.

The global aerospace and defense industry has commercial and military sales of more than $400 billion. Currently, the four lead participants in this new venture do business worldwide with more than 37,000 suppliers, hundreds of airlines, and national governments globally, all of whom will be invited to join the web-based marketplace. Boeing buys $38 billion annually in goods and services, while Lockheed Martin purchases $13 billion, BAE SYSTEMS spends $11 billion, and Raytheon spends $9 billion - for a total combined procurement outlay of $71 billion.

"This trading exchange can deliver enormous buy- and sell-side efficiencies to our industry," said Phil Condit, Boeing chairman and chief executive officer. "By using a single e-marketplace, all of us - manufacturers, suppliers, airline and government customers, and service providers - can significantly lower transaction costs and deliver more value."

Vance Coffman, chairman and CEO of Lockheed Martin, said, "This global trading exchange will transform commerce for the aerospace and defense industry on a worldwide basis. It`s a catalyst that will set the industry standard for business-to-business e-commerce while driving its increased use. It also should help us address a major priority of our government customers by reducing acquisition process costs and further aligning the industry with the Department of Defense Integrated Digital Environment initiative."

According to Sir Richard Evans, chairman of BAE SYSTEMS, "Our industry has always been identified with innovation and the exploitation of innovative ideas. I believe this Exchange to be a good example of that foresight.

It embraces established concepts but develops them, capturing the essence of future global trading by bringing together the principals of our industry to serve the market in a truly integrated, global, context."

Raytheon Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Dan Burnham said, "We are excited about the potential of this innovative, e-commerce trading exchange. By bringing the supply chain management expertise of the industry`s leaders to a single, online marketplace, we will put customers, suppliers and employees a mouse click away from achieving greater productivity, efficiency and cost savings."

Mark Hoffman, chairman and CEO of Commerce One, said, "These visionary companies have recognized the dramatic positive impact e-commerce can have on the aerospace and defense industry. This new enterprise will establish the `mega exchange` for the industry. Our recognized leadership in e-commerce technology solutions built on Microsoft technology - combined with the worldwide presence and domain knowledge of Boeing, Lockheed Martin, BAE SYSTEMS and Raytheon--will add a major new e-marketplace to the Commerce One Global Trading Web, the world`s largest business-to-business trading community."

"A successful marketplace brings together a critical mass of buyers and sellers of all sizes," said Steve Ballmer, CEO of Microsoft. "We are delighted that Microsoft`s Windows 2000 and our extensive Internet services will be the technology employed to create that critical mass in this new aerospace and defense marketplace. We have a proven track record of building marketplaces with Internet leaders like Commerce One, and are proud to be partnering with them again on this exciting project."

The four aerospace and defense companies have signed a memorandum of understanding (MOU) to form the new venture. The parties expect to sign a binding agreement soon, and will form a new company that will own and operate the exchange. The web-based trading exchange is aiming for a launch by mid-year.

Under the terms of the MOU, the founding industry partners have agreed initially to take equal ownership stakes in the new entity. Adjustments to this allocation will be based on each founding partner`s flow of its e-commerce through the exchange over the first three years. Twenty percent of the equity has been set aside for other industry participants and employees of the new venture. Commerce One will have a five percent equity position.

Condit said the new exchange is a logical extension of Boeing`s leadership in aerospace e-commerce and evidence of its plan to pursue new-frontier opportunities in the networked economy. "Our PART Page, established in 1996, was the first web-based ordering system for after-market commercial airplane parts," he said. "In 1999, we generated more than $400 million in on-line sales and the site was used by more than 250 airlines and about 675 other companies. We`ll migrate our industry-leading operation to this new trading exchange," Condit added.

Working with its government customers, Lockheed Martin has pioneered the early implementation of e-commerce solutions, according to Coffman. "Now, we and the other participants in this trading exchange will help provide a common and consistent platform to expand e-commerce across the aerospace and defense industry at large," Coffman said.

BAE SYSTEMS is enthusiastically embracing the opportunities in e-commerce, Evans said. "Our intranet is now at the heart of our day to day operations and we are seeing major benefits in productivity and our technical performance through the introduction of virtual team working. The Aerospace Exchange will enable us to extend those processes to our many international partners as well as deriving the very substantial benefits we see from streamlined procurement and enhanced customer support.

Burnham said Raytheon`s recently launched boaters.com has touched every major facet of the online experience. In addition, Raytheon continues to move forward rapidly with other e-business and Internet initiatives as part of its global, e-business strategy. Burnham noted that Raytheon`s Virtual Depot II, which allows real-time, worldwide procurement and delivery of aircraft parts, electronic catalogs and reverse auctions has been used to streamline and standardize its procurement systems. "This new B2B enterprise is a natural extension for these activities," Burnham added.

The new global exchange will be based on the Commerce One MarketSite Portal Solution and will join the growing number of exchanges in the Commerce One Global Trading Web, allowing all participants to trade with buyers and suppliers around the world. It will be open to aerospace and defense companies, airlines, their suppliers and service providers. The trading exchange will be designed to help all enterprises, regardless of size, compete globally in the new interconnected economy. Small and large businesses alike should benefit since they will be able to readily identify new business opportunities through participation in the exchange.

The company executives emphasized that the new exchange is an open platform for the industry, and invited all industry participants to join in. Citing the tremendous benefits to be gained by everyone, they said that, like any exchange, the more participants there are, the more value there will be for everyone in the trading community.

The types of aerospace and defense products, services and technical data provided over the exchange are limitless. Examples include raw materials, expendable parts such as fasteners, fittings and brackets, technical data, aircraft components, defense electronic components, after-market parts and thousands of other items. A typical commercial airplane, for instance, contains as many as six million parts and is supported by millions of pages of technical documentation. In addition, the exchange will be an e-marketplace for the indirect products and services that aerospace companies, airlines and their suppliers need to operate their businesses.

The Boeing Company is the world`s largest aerospace company, with 1999 revenues of $58 billion. With headquarters in Seattle, Wash., its portfolio of customer-focused solutions includes military aircraft and missile systems, satellites and space launch systems, commercial jetliners, and a growing services business for both government and commercial customers.

With headquarters in Bethesda, Md., Lockheed Martin is a global enterprise principally engaged in the research, design, development, manufacture and integration of advanced-technology systems, products and services. The corporation`s core businesses are systems integration, space, aeronautics, and technology services. Lockheed Martin had 1999 sales surpassing $25 billion.

BAE SYSTEMS, formed by the merger of British Aerospace and Marconi Electronic Systems in November 1999, is one of the world`s leading aerospace and defense companies. The company employs more than 100,000 people in nine home markets and had 1999 sales of more than $19 billion.

BAE SYSTEMS offers a global capability in air, sea, land and space with a world-class prime contracting ability supported by a range of key skills.

Raytheon Company, based in Lexington, Mass., is a global technology leader that provides products and services in the areas of commercial and defense electronics, engineering and construction, and business and special mission aircraft. Raytheon had 1999 revenues of $20 billion and has operations throughout the United States, serving customers in more than 80 countries.

Commerce One is the leader in global e-commerce solutions for business. Through its products, portals and services, Commerce One creates access to worldwide markets, allowing anyone to buy from anyone, anytime, anywhere. The Commerce One Global Trading Web(TM) is the world`s largest business-to-business trading community. Commerce One is located in Pleasanton, Calif.


...immerhin 5 % Beteiligung von CMRC, anstatt 3% wie zunächst vermutet