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[erik der große]

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Deshalb ein neuer frischer Thread.

[erik der große]

Heute wieder Message-Chat auf RangingBull.com, mit Bob Jackson.
War ganz O.K.

SIGNING ON
Good Afternoon. Obviously, we have a lot to talk about today. As such, please try to review each message during the
session to insure that we are not duplicating questions.
The DA showing on Monday was everything that we had hoped it to be. The 300+ attendees were given a presentation on
the markets and potetial for DA and a live demostration of its capablities by tracking and monitoring one of Dr. Zhou`s
research assistants who was driving some 20 miles away. Individual meetings were held with potential partners, follow-up
meetings with Wall Street analysts and influencial brokers have been scheduled, and media coverage was heavy. Our
media tracking company registered 12 hits on October 30th and an additional 31 when the b-roll (an edited version of the
presentation for distribution to media sources) was delivered. In all respects, it was a tremendous success. We will be
posting the b-roll or other version on the website in the ensuing days for general viewing.
The price of ADSX is in NO WAY a reflection of the markets interest in Digital Angel or ADS, as a whole. I came back to
my office on Wednesday to over 200 emails and close to 50 voicemails. The majority of them started off with "I just saw
DA on my local news and wanted to get additional information about investing..." My assisitant has put out more investor
packages that I have ever seen go out in one week. Once again, for whatever reasons, we are stuck in some sort of
technical trading range. In the face of very significant pressure, though, our stock has demonstrated a tremendous ability
to absorb the selling. This is a testament to the general interest and belief in ADS.
The interest we have acquired in ATEC Group from Mr. Remetra is designed to facilitate the return to profitability of
Intellesale. ATEC has always had great distribution channels; Intellesale`s forte` has been in the procurement of product.
Management styles also are very synergistic. This action bodes extremely well for both concerns. The extent to which this
develops into a more strategic relationship will be determined by a careful evaluation of the each has upon the other
during the coming months.
In the interest of time, I am reserving the right to ignore those questions that are designed soley to be argumentative.
Individuals interested in debate are welcome to call me directly. Further, non-public or "undisclosed" information will
remain just that.
With that let`s get going

Sir, Thanks for the opportunity once more, which leads to my questions.
When do you see these bi-weekly hand holding sessions to be irrelevant in relation to significant events making them
unnecessary? They currently fill a need as Applied is a weak stock with no analyst coverage, but I would expect that to
change.
The private placement seems to also be driven from a position of weakness. From what I understand about Elliot & Co
they have a certain ill repute especially with their dealings with Peruvian bonds. Is $7.69 less 5% fees the best we can do?
It seems as though this is selling the future cheap.
Thank you for responding
A. These session, in my opion may nevr become unneccessary. A recnt article in IR Magazine which talked about the
future of IR indicated that there is a fundamental change underway. Contact with the individual investor, especially in light
of Reg FD, is apt to become an increasingly important aspect of IR. This has been borne out over the last few weeks
through discussions with other IR professional who have solicited my input in how to grow increase the distribution of their
shares to a wider audience.
The issues with Elliot and the Peruvian government are well-documented. Although they thier actions can be interpreted as
malicious toward Peru, the fact of the matter is that they, like you, invest to make money. They are extremely astute and
competent investors.
The need for the cash is not from an operating standpoint, but from a balance sheet perspective. We are embarking upon
negotiations with extremely well-heeled partners for DA. We need the ablity to be able to walk away from these
negotiations. Financial strength, cash in the bank, is one of the surest method of assuring that we can gain the best
possible partnerships.

Question to ADSX IR, as mailed to you last night....
Dear Mr. Jackson!
First of all, sorry for my English, but I am from the heart of Europe,
from Austria.
I am very disappointed, that nothing detailed about the unveiling is
being presented.
No details about attendees, no short video of the unveiling on
www.digitalangel.tv, etc.,
in fact as ADSX shareholder I request more information in that topic.
Further I found in the ragingbull board that message.
A. The b-roll, I just found out, will be on the DA website this afternoon.

ADSX_IR, is ADSX in fact in talks with QCOM and NOK?
Thank you
A. You should know better that to ask me to confirm a rumor.

Mr. Jackson:
I have concerns with what appears to be a significant dilution of our stock value, as well as an apparent `lack of focus` by
management. We seem to be spreading ourselves thin by going in so many directions rather than focusing on one
direction and executing. I have been a shareholder for approximately 1 1/2 years and have what I feel are shared concerns
about the direction (or lack of) the company is taking at this point in time.
Thanks in advance for your response to these concerns.
A. Yu have been a shareholder during a time of restructuring and significant growth. During the 4th qtr, many of your
concerns regarding direction will be brought into a very clear focus. I have indicated in the past and feel more strongly now
that this is a pivitol time for ADS.

Mr. Jackson...investor sentiment is low. Morale is low. We are extremely frustrated that the company seems secretive. For
example, why can`t you give us the name of the consulting company? Name of the company, ADS bought DDS proprietary
technology from?
When we a DA product be available for the commodity tracking versus human tracking?
If we had more concrete facts, we would have more faith in the company and management!
A. Your questions are legitimate. The reason we cannot disclose our consultant is that they have specifically requested
that we not do so in writing. In the presenation and to any that have called me to inquire, I have always been willing to share
their name. Similarly, the partener from whom we bought the streaming technology and the partner to who we sold the
NetVu license have requested that the names not be shared. This is an extremly competative industry in which proprietary
technology of bundling of technology needs to be kept under wraps until its debut.
DA technology for tracking of commodities technologically viable now. There exist a number of applications among the 26
vertical markets identified that can be acted upon in the very near term.

mr. jackson,
in your opinion, what do you think is holding down the price of this stock right now?
A. It is difficult to say with any certainty, but the fact remains that there are certain market participants who have been
extremely active in the stock from the offer side.

Regarding ATEC
How many shares and at what price was the purchase?
A. The number of shares to be acquired from Mr. Rametra can be found in the public filings of ATEC. The purchase
amount has not be made public.

Hello Mr. Jackson
You state:
one of Dr. Zhou`s research assistants who was driving some 20 miles away.
The tracking of D.A. is then not interrupted by (car) electronics or the steel structure of a vehicle?
Mr. Sullivan spoke of an annoucement in Q4 as to a JV?licence agreement are you still confident of this?
Thanks
A. Transmission from within a vehicle posed no obstacle. The testing of our demostartion commenced about three weeks
ahead of the show to insure that there were no techical glitches.
Following the show, we feel VERY confident that we will be in partnership or sign a license during Q4.

Mr. Jackson, I am a 20 year old college student who has invested a great deal of money in your company last year at a
price of $14.00. I invested based on Richard Sullivan`s comments during an interview when he stated the value of the
company should be in excess of 1.5 Billion dollars. Do you see the value of your company approaching this number in the
near term and if not why does the CEO say these things if it is not the truth. Also, he states that all types of deals are in the
works, how come we have not seen any for DA.
A. I have always maintained that Richard`s comments were both accurate and appropriate since they were based upon
factual data and relevant market ratios.
In regard to the "deals", Rome was not built in a day. We do feel though, again, that we will have an greement during Q4.

Mr Jackson-
What is the story with Intellisale? Did Sullivan and
company just write that off and is now jumping on the
DA thing? What`s the story? Are the investors supposed to
forget that he publicly announced that it would be spun
off?
Also, why are there so many acquisitions being done in
the face of the falling stock price. Isn`t further
dilutions ONLY going to cause more problems?
Thanks.
A. Intellesale remains an work in progress. Marc Sherman and his team have made some tremendous strides at getting
Intellesale back to a profitabile model. The alliance with ATEC Group furthers that.
Keep in mind that we are not the only stock which is currently down. I could list off a number of far more recognizable
names than ADS who have also fallen significantly. This market means that there are a great deal of companies that are
selling at bargain prices and a larger number f private companies that now cannot enter the public markets via an IPO.
Yes, our price is down, but this is a great buying opportunity not only for investors, but for us, as well.

Mr Jackson If you recieved a purchase order today for 1,000 da`s for tracking , lets say freight, how long would it take adsx
to ship a finshed product???
A. I do not have the specifics on that but I can tell you that the engineering and manufacturing capabilities have been
established for some time.

Good afternoon, Mr Jackson. According to filings of 9/28/00, Rametra Surinder owned 2,140,640 shares of TEC. Are we
purchasing the full amount? It is roughly 21% of the company as I understand it. Do you know the price we paid for these
shares?
A. I beleive that we are acquiring his entire position, but I cannot offhand comment on what % that equates to. The price,
again, has not been made public.

Thank you for your response, Mr. Jackson. Could you please be a little more specific in addressing my concerns
regarding the dilution of share value as well as the direction in which the company will be heading. Thank you.
A. Lets talk about the issuance of shares since many have that as a primary concern.
The issuance of shares for acquisition has long been the primary means for ADS. This should NOT come as a suprise to
anyone. We have grown a company from $300,000+ to $3.3+ million in a short period of time. During that time, we have
remained profitable on an annual basis. In issuing shares as payment for acquistitions, we have avoided overburdening
the company with debt.
I hesitate to continue on this tact for fear of being percieved as insulting, but look at what has been accomplished and how
it has been accomplished and then attempt to find fault.
The direction of the company is as it has always been, although more formally adressed upon the restructuring begun in
1998: to grow a profitable business around emerging and proprietary communications technologies.

Follow up Mr. J
As to the asst. that was being tracked in the car..
Was the signal sent directly to a GPS satelite then to the home base or is it transmitted to a tower then back?
And if it is a direct "line" the distance inbetween would not be effected or would it?
Thanks
A. GPS is essetially an one-way street. It does not receive signals, only transmits. The signals are interpretted by the GPS
receiver. In the case of DA, those signals are then transmitted to a groundstation and then ultimately to the end user at a
terminal.

IBM CREDIT AGREEMENT:
This new agreement apparently says nothing about ADS`s revolving credit line. Does ADS still have this ability to finance
operations by drawing on the revolving line of credit, or has this been cancelled by IBM? Have they called in this revolving
loan?
A. That fact that there is a NEW agreement would seem to indicate that the loan has not been called in.

Selling $20 million (net $19million)of convertibles with warrants appears to have been a very expensive way to raise cash,
especially since some shares were sold to a firm that "..specializes in distressed securities" (Elliot and Westgate. Why
were cheaper financing arrangements not sought, even the sale of more shares, rather than burden the future earnings
with this convertible sale. Are we to now take it that ADSX stock is "distressed"?. It sure seems to be.
A. "Distresed securities" seems to be a term which could be applied to the vast majority of the Nasdaq right now. The
secondaryu you propose would have automatically generated the dreaded "D"-word that you so veemently oppose since it
would have to have been sold at market prices.

Mr. Jackson,
On Digital Angel TV, there is a short video about the D.A. On it, the female narrator says,
"A miniturized transceiver known as the Digital Angel"
"The transmitters would be monitored by global positioning satellites thousands of miles above the earth"
"The same technology used to steer jetliners"
I`m under the impression that GPS satellites cannot monitor something like this, that they are only "beacons" sending time,
orbital, and satellite health data, and the only thing that they receive is ground control signals.
Is ADSX planning on updating or replacing this video to more accurately reflect how the units actually work (receiving
signals from GPS and transmitting to ground stations)?
A. Noted...I will check it out after the session

Mr. J, could a coordinated effort against ADS and ## by anti## forces be depressing the stock price? Are they trying to
`take away our ammo`? what kind of attention is being paid to marketing and PR? are focus groups being used?
A.. It is unlikely that the small % of individuals that oppose DA could mount such a strike.
The marketing of DA, the vertical markets and values of those market, is being guided by our consultant.

Can you give us some guidance into the TOP and BOTTOM line growth prospects/projections for the next year?
Please don`t skimp on the answer. Obviously, judging from the tone of the comments recently many of us long-time
shareholders want/need answers we aren`t getting
A. As you know as a longtime holder, it has NEVER been the policy of ADS to project future growth on either TOP or
BOTTOM line numbers.

You played that market card in the Spring... but everything recovered except ADSX - you publicly stated $8 was a great
buying opportunity - here we are at 2 7/8. Why should we believe you now?
A. The reasons for the flat trading over the summer have been discussed at great length. Ironically, many of the companies
that did stage rallies over the summer are right back (or lower) to their March levels.

Mr. Jackson,
Why are there 2 registered Nasdaq dealer/brokers on the board of directors?
A. Answered in previous sesseions. We are talking about life insurance and annity business here.

Scratch my last question, he actually answered it. Now how about the one about whether ADS has sold its 3 million shelf
from last spring?
I and others can vehemently oppose further dilution, but that doesn`t stop Richard Sullivan, does it?
A. The sale of securities via shelf registration requires additional amendments to the filing. As you know, there have been
none.

Mr Jackson, I noticed that the US Commerce Secretary
was at the presentation...can you comment on why and if there is any Government interest in DA? TIA
A. As the body which contraol the FCC, FDA, millitary and a host of other agencies with potetial applications for DA, their
interest is apparent.

AGAIN I ASK, MR JACKSON, SINCE THERE ARE A LOT OF SHAREHOLDERS CONCERNED WITH THE NEGATIVE
PR SPIRAL WE HAVE BEEN IN. PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY ADSX WAS SO DESPERATE TO ENTER INTO A
FINANCING THE LIKES OF THE CONV PREF JUST ANNOUNCED? THE ARBITRAGE BY ELLIOT ASSOC THRU THE
MM INCA IS KILLING ALL CREDIBILITY IN THE STK AND THE CO!
A. If you can find eveidence linking the declining stock price to the convertible, as opposed to spouting conjecture, I would
love to pursue this avenue.

We are not the only ones` concerned with dilution, it is obvious to me that no one will get near this stock as a result of the
massive dilution. You speak of growth from 300,000 to 3.3 it means nothing to me until we produce bottom line earnings.
PERIOD, if the answer is wait, than fine we need to make a decision but the constant promises of contracts and growth I
have not seen
A. "...until bottom line earnings" Please review AR from each of the last five years. As a shareholder, you should know your
companies earnings history.

According to your statements on the DA demonstration, that if one was lost on an icy mountain with a DA, one would also
have to have a cellphone to make it possible for one to be found? Glad to see other skeptics here. Buyer beware.
A. DA transmits to the same ground stations as cellular phones.

Won`t answer about Elliot and Westgate will he (you). Is ADSX a "distressed security" or not Mr. Jackson?
A. What is the definition of a distressed security? Answer that and I will let you know.

MR. JACKSON,
If I were a prospective investor looking to invest in ADSX right now, there`s absolutely nothing CONCRETE you are stating
today that would give me a warm and fuzzy feeling. There`s also nothing I as an investor can objectively make my decision
on since there are secretive deals where terms are not made public and there`s lot`s of bread but "where`s the beef"? My
question is how do you expect the stock price to go up since I am certain most of us feel the same way. PLEASE
RESPOND
A. You are excatly right. I an not stating anything concrete to give anyone a fuzzy, warm or otherwise. I do not come here to
encourage people to buy the stock. That is a determination to be made by an individual after engaging in some DUE
DILLIGENCE, not after having been on a chat board.

RE: Follow up Mr. J
Let me try to ask a little differently (my fault).
Does the D.A. unit require amplification (let`s say a 1000 mis. away from home base) along the way to stay in contact with
the GPS or home base.
A. DA uses the same infrastructure as cellular phones.

I think you will find as time goes on, and if these chat sessions continue, the tough and unfriendly questions will dominate
these. In fact they will get worse if the stock continues to decline (I believe the stock will continue to decline). Mr. Jackson
will then have to make a choice of either responding to those questions or not bother with these sessions any more. We`ll
just have to wait and see.
A. I think that that is exactly the intention of some posters, to get me so irritated with these sessions that I give up. Not
going to happen until 1 single verifiable shareholder tells me to quit...maybe not even then.

LAST QUESTION
I will stay long enough to clear the back log.

you have spoken some threads before about ground stations. Please can you tell me, where are the ground stations,must
you build them at first, and do you need them in the quite word or how is it going ??
Thanks for answer Jani
A. The grounstations exist and are part of the cellular network.

MR. JACKSON>>>>>VERY IMPORTANT PLEASE ANSWER!!!!
If it is ADS policy to NEVER make projection on top or bottom line growth then why in an interview did Richard Sullivan state that
the Top line would be in excess of 850 million? the interview was with wallstreetreporter.com or something. I can find it for you if
necessary. Thank you
A. I beleive Mr. Sullivan indicated a run run figure, not an actual revenue projection.

Mr. Jackson, Is QCOM`s recent test of locating of cell phone users which was tested a week ago in direct competition of DA? I`m
not a technical person but as I read QCOM pr I wondered if their is a lot of competition for DA. Thank you!
A. The SnapTrack technology that QCOMM displayed recently does not contain the bio-sensor aspects of DA that make it useful
in medical monitoring.

ADSX facts/ #s speak for themselves
1 profitability since 1995
2 solid balance sheet
3 successful execution of a very dynamic buisiness plan
4 upcoming entrance into $70+ billion market
You folks have to understand that that Mr Jackson cannot answer all of the questions asked here, for legal reasons ect. No I dont
work for ADSX either lol
Mr Jackson, when will ADSX enter the wireless market?
Do you have a time frame?
Thank you.
A. We have been in the wireless market since inception, recently naming Gary Gray to head further development in that area.

Mr. Jackson, Why the big pr push to announce the annoucement of the unvieling? and now afterwards theres nothing?
A. As indicated earlier, our medioa service has recorded over 40 hits since the presetation, not including our own release the night
of the 30th.

Omega, you don`t owe anyone an apology for anything. You have paid for the privilege to say what you like. He has not only
accused me of being "prejudiced" (in an email), but also publicly stated "...vulture lies like a rug". I would challenge him to prove I
have ever lied about anything. When it comes to asking them about "lies", they turn around and call it "exaggeration". Keep up the
good work Omega.
A. Vulture,
You emailed me an ethnic joke that I found offensive. It is might right to say that makes you predjudiced. You have alo emailed a
number of conflicting reports as to your involvement in ADSX.

Mr. Jackson:
How would you charaterize the response so far (from industry, analysts, etc.) with respect to recent innovations presented by
ADSX? Thanks.
A. Responses have been very encouraging, indicating a determination to learn more about what we are developing. We are not
dealing with companies that have succeeded by jumping at the latest technology without completing a thorough investigation. The
same can be said for the response from mainstream Wall Street.

Mr. Jackson
When is the reverse stock split going to happen?
A. There is no discussion of any reverse stock split. Absolutely not.

SIGNING OFF
Thank you for your questions and insights. As always, even when the stock price goes up during these sesseions, I will be
sharing today`s exchanges with Mr. Sullivan.



Erik

[Brainstorm01]

Hallo zusammen,

Nun ja neues gibt es ja eigentlich nicht zu berichten. Hab mal ein bisschen im RB zugehört - war aber meines
Erachtens nicht gerade eine Neuigkeitenquelle sondern eher ein Fang den Hasen Spiel.
Damit meine ich keine langen Antworten und auch nicht den Hauch von irgendwelchen möglichen News in nächster Zeit.

Was ich aber mal hier noch reinstellen will ist ein Posting aus dem RB:By: Adsx_holder1 $$
Reply To: None
Friday, 3 Nov 2000 at 2:03 PM EST
Post # of 17844


Mr. SULLIVAN stated in his CEOCAST interview last month that he felt 3rd qtr earnings would easily beat expectations.
Whose expectations? And since he seems to have a tendancy to be inaccurate (being nice) do you agree?

An diese Kommentar kann ich mich noch sehr gut erinnern, also frag ich mich WIE soll das passieren??
Wenn jemand eine Antwort weiss oder eine möglichkeit wie das zustandekommen kann, so wäre ich dankbar für ein
Posting.

Was mich außerdem noch Interessieren würde ist, wenn ich mir die Kursentwicklung der letzten 3 Tage und den dazugehörigen
Intraday-Chart und die Blocks die gehandelt wurden anschaue, dann frage ich mich:
Eigentlich kann doch keiner in den letzten 3 Tagen was mit ADSX verdient haben (Außer natürlich die Shorties, die hoch verkauft haben
und wieder einkaufen mußten um Ihr Depot auszugleichen) - aber es wurden in den letzten 3 Tagen trotzalledem nicht soviele große
Stückzahlen in einem einzelnen Trade gehandelt.

Ich habe für die letzten 3 Tage meine eigene kleine Theorie entwickelt (natürlich auch weil ich sehr verärgert über das aktuelle
Kursniveau bin):
Und zwar, wenn man davon ausgeht, dass wirklich Analysten auf der Präsentation waren (wovon ich ausgehe)und man dort auch einige davon überzeugen
konnte, das ADSX respektiv DA Zukunft hat, dann werden sie ja auch erst mal ein bisschen Zeit wollen um sich das Unternehmen
genauer unter die Lupe zu nehmen (die kaufen ja auch nicht blind) und sich dann entscheiden sich ein paar Stücke ins Depot zu legen
und sagen wir mal ein paar Tage später dann ADSX zu empfehlen. Was ich damit meine ist, dass in den letzten 3 Tagen bestimmt
nicht der Himmel auf Erden für diejenigen war wo verkauft haben, wohl aber für die die einkaufen wollten und egal wieviel Stück.
Man hätte in den letzten Tagen soviel ADSX kaufen können wie man wollte und das zu ca. genau demselben Kurs, nämlich 3$.

Mich würde mal Interessieren, was Ihr davon haltet. Denn das noch ein paar News vor den Zahlen kommen, davon bin ich 100%ig
überzeugt.

Gruß

Brainy

[bremse]

@brainy

würde mich interessieren wieviel Prozent der ADSX Aktionäte
Deutschland bevölkern

[erik der große]

Wieviel Prozent?

Jani und ich haben zusammen 17,789354266%.
Scherz, natürlich sind es mehr. Wieder Scherz.
Nein, kann ich Dir nicht sagen, ich wüßte auch nicht wo das stehen soll, ist aber bestimmt nur ein geringer Anteil.


Betreff : Heutige News

Applied Digital Solutions Agrees to Acquire Interest in ATEC Group, Inc.

...ADSX today announced that it has agreed to acquire an interest in ATEC Group (AMEX: TEC - news)
from Surinder Rametra, a former officer and director of ATEC. ...

Rametra Surinder hält 2140640 TEC-Aktien, angeblich wären das 21% der Firma; selbst aber gefunden habe diese %-Angabe nicht.
Mr. Jackson sagte heute, daß der gesamte Aktienbesitz übernommen wird. Der Preis ist noch nicht bekannt.
Bei aktuellem Tec-Kurs von rund 1,9$ ergibt das einen Wert von ca. 4 Mil $.

Nur zur Info, ATEC heißt jetzt TEC. Ich habe mich nicht verschrieben.


Erik

[erik der große]

Hey. Was geht ab? Umsatz + Kurs steigen.

Erik

[bremse]

6,3%

[kingtom]

@Brainy: Deine Idee ist zwar nicht schlecht und ich hätte auch nichts dagegen, wenn diese Analysten derzeit einkaufen würden, um einige Tage später den Wert zu empfehlen und über den grünen Klee zu loben, doch soweit ich weiß, ist dies in den USA streng verboten und wird als frontrunning bezeichnet und strafrechtlich verfolgt.
Hier in Deutschland funktioniert das sehr wohl (noch), siehe die Entwicklungen dieser Woche in Bezug auf den AKTIONÄR und die Herren Förtsch und Opel und lies dann dazu die Beiträge hier am board.

Ich sehe das zwar nicht so dramatisch und hätte nichts gegen ein bißchen gepushe bei den Amis, um dem ADSX-Kurs auf die Sprünge zu helfen, doch ich glaube, das wird nix.

Trotzdem einen schönen Abend, der uns zwischenzeitlich mit immerhin 3% Plus versüßt wird, ein Gefühl, das ich bei ADSX in dieser Woche eigentlich schon verlernt hatte.

Kingtom

[bremse]

Können Calls(Puts)an der NASDAQ bei einer deutschen Direktbank
und bei welcher geordert werden ?
Zu welchen Transaktionskosten ?

Danke für einen Hinweis

[bremse]

7,3%

[.Wurm.]

Warum geben die nichts über den DA preis?
Und aus welchem Grund gibt es wieder Interesse an ATEC?

Wurm

[erik der große]

3,3125 $ !!

Frag doch mal bei Deiner (hoffentlich) Direktbank nach, wenn die US-Trading anbieten, müßte es doch gehen.
Genau weiß ich es auch nicht.

Erik

[bremse]

13% steigt weiter

[erik der große]

Daß wir diese Woche nochmal einen Kursanstieg sehen, hätte ich nicht gedacht.
In den Ami-Boards denken jetzt viele, daß da eine kommende News dafür verantwortlich ist.
Warten wir es mal ab.
Ist nur merkwürdig, daß bis kurz nach 2.00 pm nur ca. 500000 Stück, und dann bis Börsenschluß fast
2000000 Stück gehandelt wurden.
Mal auf das nachbörsliche Geschehen achten.

Erik

[Kappo]

Solch eine nervöse Aktie hab ich noch nicht gesehen, innerhalb von 30 sec. macht die sprünge um 5% rauf und runter.
MM ein zeichen dafür, daß wenn´s hier mal knallt, dann
aber richtig.

[erik der große]

Kappo,

das ist genau die Meinung, die ich auch vertrete. Wenn da das passente Element hinzu kommt, ich hoffe auf ein Strong Buy,
dann rappelt es in der Kiste.

Ansonsten, falls nichts mehr kommt,
ein Schönes Wochenende.

Erik

[Kappo]

same to you

[OesiStockpicker]

? ich komm heim, was sehe ich da ++++++++++++++, warum? keiner weiss....
vielleicht wieder ein schleichender anstieg.......freitag kurz vor börsenschluss......

[OesiStockpicker]

updated digitalangel.tv!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[janigmbh]

Hallo Leute,

ich schaue gerade desillusioniert in meine US Watchliste und was muß ich da sehen ?? Na Ihr wißt es ja schon : 12% plus ! Grüner Bereich !Nicht minus, roter Bereich ! Und ich dachte, die kennen vorläufig nur eine Richtung, nämlich Süden. Und News gibt`s auch nicht, außer Artec.

Naja, vielleicht ist ja der Sell off, der seit letzten Freitag lief, beendet. Ungewöhnlich ist auch, daß die Stückumsätze scheinbar erst in der späteren Börsensitzung so massiv bis auf fast 2 Mio eingesetzt haben.

Also insgesamt sieht`s ja heute mal gut aus. Hoffentlich bleibt es so.Jackson hat zwar heute nichts Neues berichtet, allerdings hat er sich ja doch sehr euphorisch über die DA Nachpräsentations-Aktivitäten geäußert ( Emails und Voice Emails ).
Was mir auch auffiel : Er hat zweimal unabhängig voneinander in einer Antwort gesagt, daß man noch im 4 Q. mit der ersten DA Lizenzvergabe rechnet. Und zu QCOM und NOKIA hat er jede Aussage verweigert. Er hätte ja auch dementieren können, oder ? Hat er aber nicht. Soweit ich es sinngemäß richtig interpretiere, hat er gesagt, daß er wegen SEC nichts sagen darf. M.E. hätte er aber das Gerücht - es ist ja nur ein Gerücht - schon dementieren dürfen. Na gut.

Der Kauf von Artec Anteilen könnte jetzt wirtschaftlich interessant werden. Grundsätzlich wäre der Deal ja seinerzeit schon sinnvoll gewesen, nur war der Preis seinerzeit viel zu hoch.
Artec paßt m.E. ausgezeichnet zu SALE, da sie selbst PC`s und andere Hardware herstellen. SALE ist ja z.Z. quasi nur im Handel tätig und könnte jetzt quasi - alla Dell - auch selbst produzierte Hardware verkaufen ( Wertschöpfungskette verbessert sich ).
Außerdem sollte ja seinerzeit SALE in Artec aufgehen und damit elegant an die Börse gebracht werden. Ich glaube nicht, daß dieses Ziel aufgegeben wurde. Nur werden die Artec Aktionäre jetzt erheblich weniger bekommen als ursprünglich vorgesehen.
Hier liegt durchaus auch ein Vorteil des allgemeinen Kursverfalls, daß nämlich Einkäufe z.Z. auch wesentlich billiger zu haben sind als " seinerzeit ".
Wenn diese sogenannten billigen Einkäufe dann mal alle zu einem Puzzle und zu einem großen Ganzen zusammengesetzt sind und die Börse wohlmöglich wieder läuft, kann dad neue Puzzle plötzlich sehr wertvoll sein.
Ich sagte schonmal an anderer Stelle : Ich glaube, daß ADSX z.Z. ganz gezielt kleinere HighTechbuden relativ billig kauft und daraus ein großes Ganzes schmiedet. Hier steckt irgendeine Strategie hinter, die man m.E. verständlicherweise bei ADSX z.Z. nicht unbedingt an die große Glocke hängen kann. Alles andere würde keinen Sinn machen und ich halte S. für zu clever als das er nur so zum Spaß und ohne Konzept Firmen aufkauft, die nicht in ein bestimmtes Konzept passen.

Artec hat allerdings nur was mit SALE zu tun und nichts mit dem DA oder CTII.
Aber SALE soll ja auch verkaufsreif gemacht werden. Hier stecken m.E. nicht unerhebliche stille Reserven, vorausgesetzt der Laden und die Börse läuft irgendwann wieder und SALE / ARTEC macht fetten Umsatz und Gewinn.

SALE wäre sicherlich für so manchen großen Internetretailer eine interessante Startposition oder Ergänzung ( verkauft AMZN schon Hardware ?? ). Ich habe vor kurzem auch irgendwo gelesen, daß EBAY in das Elektronic Retailer Geschäft einsteigen will. Entweder sie bauen selbst neu auf ( mit allen Imponderabilien ) oder kaufen einen bestehenden Laden. Das zweite geht einfacher und am Ende ist alles eine Rechenaufgabe.

Also bye, mal sehen was Monatg wird

Grüße Jani

[erik der große]

"BUY, mit geringem Risiko"

Auf CNBC.com gibt es eine Kategorie, die nennt sich "Second Opinion® Weekly".
Diese Second Opinion® Weekly wird jede Woche, immerSamstag in der Frühe erneuert.

Adresse, inkl. der Eingabe von ADSX:
http://cnbc.stkwtch.com/Secop/ADSX.asp?refer=cnbc


Auszüge:

Opinion = LONG
Score = -1

das heißt = Die Aktie ist ein Kauf mit einer unbedeutenden Verschlechterung. Das Risiko ist niedrig.

(Erläuterung:
Opinion Score Interpretation / Market Risk
Long 0 Stock is a buy. Market risk is low.
Long -1 Stock is a buy with minor deterioration. Market risk is low.
Long -2 Stock now experiencing technical deterioration. Market risk is moderate but increasing.
Long/Neutral -3 Warning sign if you own the stock. Significant technical deterioration. A good point to begin evaluating your individual Buy-Hold-Sell
strategies. Market risk is significantly increasing.
Long/Neutral -4 Warning sign if you own the stock. Extreme technical deterioration. Market risk is high.
Avoid 0 Stock is an Avoid. Market risk is high for buyers.
Avoid +1 Stock is an Avoid with minor improvement. Market risk is high for buyers.
Avoid +2 Stock now experiencing technical improvement. Market risk is moderate but decreasing for buyers.
Avoid/Neutral +3 Warning sign if you are short the stock. Significant technical improvement. A good point to begin evaluating your individual Buy-Hold-Sell
strategies. Market risk is significantly decreasing for buyers.
Avoid/Neutral +4 Warning sign if you are short the stock. Extreme technical improvement. Market risk is low for buyers, but not as low as a Long with a
score of 0.)


Recommendation: Caution; Stock is moving against Opinion.

Comment: Moving Average Convergence/Divergence (MACD) indicates a Bullish Trend.
Chart pattern indicates a Possible Trend Reversal
Relative Strength is Bearish.
Up/Down volume pattern indicates that the stock is under Accumulation.
The 50 day Moving Average is falling which is Bearish.
The 200 day Moving Average is falling which is Bearish.
Price is above Resistance of 3.33 which is Bullish.



Erik

[janigmbh]

"Price is above Restistance of 3,33 which is bullish !!"

Klingt doch gut Erik, also bleib auch drin. Ich bleib auch drin, weil ich nach unten hin tatsächlich auch kein großes Risiko mehr sehe. Und z.Z. kenne ich kaum einen stock, wo nicht nach unten hin ein Risiko besteht.

Also, auf eine interessante kommende Woche

Grüße Jani

[erik der große]

Hallo Jani,


natürlich bleibe ich dabei.

Erik

[OesiStockpicker]

seht euch das mal an: http://www.multexinvestor.com/data/mxcache/1/1747116.HTM

[OesiStockpicker]

hab mir mal den chart angesehen, den 12 monatschart...,
folgendes scenario, innerhalb der nächsten 2 monate sehen wir wieder 15 us$, fügt das dem chart hinzu...
was haben wir dann, ....... eine Untertassenformation! Beim Durchbrechen der, ich sage mal so salopp 16,5 us$
würde das bedeuten, dass der weg nach oben hin frei ist, und rein charttechnisch die aktie explodieren wird....
hoffentlich bis 30 us$.

so, das war nur so ein gedanke, kurz vorm schlafengehen, ... so zum träumen.....

zzzzz zzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz TRÄUME WERDEN WAHR zzzz zzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzz

[OesiStockpicker]

noch etwas zum Schmökern... warum kauft eigentlich adsx soviel auf.....liegt vielleicht in der biographie von Sully...., auch andere Biographien von hochrangigen ADSX Mitarbeitern:






EXECUTIVE OFFICERS
As of:
September 21, 2000
Age
Position
Officer
since
Sullivan, Richard J.
Biography
Compensation
Stock Options
61
Chairman of the Board,
Chief Executive Officer and
Secretary
1993
Sullivan, Garrett A.
Biography
Compensation
Stock Options
65
President, Chief Operating
Officer and Director
1995
Loppert, David A.
Biography
Compensation
Stock Options
45
Chief Financial Officer, Vice
President
1997
Krawitz, Michael E.
Biography
Compensation
Stock Options
30
Vice President, Assistant
Secretary
1999
McLaughlin, Kevin
Biography
—
Vice President, National
Sales
2000
Zhou, Peter
—
Vice President and Chief
Scientist
2000
Artigliere, Jerome C.
Biography
Compensation
Stock Options
46
Treasurer, Vice President
1998


BOARD OF DIRECTORS
As of:
September 21, 2000
Age
Position
Director
since
Sullivan, Richard J.
Biography
Compensation
Stock Options
61
Chairman of the Board, Chief
Executive Officer and Secretary
1993
Sullivan, Garrett A.
Biography
Compensation
Stock Options
65
President, Chief Operating
Officer and Director
1995
Friedland, Richard S.
Biography
49
Director
1999
Noterman, Arthur F.
Biography
58
Director
1997
Penni, Daniel E.
Biography
52
Director
1995
Sullivan, Angela M.
Biography
42
Director
1996
Weaver, Constance K.
Biography
47
Director
1998



Top



As of: September 21, 2000
Sullivan, Richard J.,
(61)
Chairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer
and Secretary

Mr. Sullivan was elected to the Board of Directors, and named Chief Executive
Officer, in May 1993. He was appointed Secretary in March 1996. He is a member
of the Compensation Committee of the Board of Directors of the Company. Mr.
Sullivan is currently Chairman of Great Bay Technology, Inc. From August 1989 to
December 1992, Mr. Sullivan was Chairman of the Board of Directors of
Consolidated Convenience Systems, Inc., in Springfield, Missouri. He has been
the Managing General Partner of The Bay Group, a merger and acquisition firm in
New Hampshire, since February 1985. Mr. Sullivan was formerly Chairman and
Chief Executive Officer of Manufacturing Resources, Inc., an MRP II software
company in Boston, Massachusetts, and was Chairman and CEO of Encode
Technology, a "Computer-Aided Manufacturing" Company, in Nashua, New
Hampshire from February 1984 to August 1986. Mr. Sullivan is married to Angela
M. Sullivan.

Sullivan, Garrett A., (65)
President, Chief Operating Officer and Director

Mr. Sullivan Mr. Sullivan, age 65, has been President of the Company since March
1995. He was elected to the Board of Directors in August 1995. He was acting
secretary of the Company from March 1995 to March 1996 and acting Chief
Financial Officer from March 1995 to February 1997. From 1993 to 1994 he was
an Executive Vice President of Envirobusiness, Inc. From 1988 to 1993, he served
as president and chief operating officer of two companies in the electronics and
chemical industries which were owned by Philips North America. He was
previously a partner in The Bay Group, a merger and acquisition firm in New
Hampshire, from 1988 to 1993. From 1981 to 1988, Mr. Sullivan was President of
Granada Hospital Group, Burlington, Massachusetts. He earned a Bachelor of
Arts degree from Boston University in 1960 and an MBA from Harvard University in
1962. Mr. Sullivan is not related to Richard J. Sullivan.

Loppert, David A., (45)
Chief Financial Officer, Vice President

Mr. Loppert joined the Company as Vice President, Treasurer and Chief Financial
Officer in February 1997. From 1996 to 1997, he was Chief Financial Officer of
Bingo Brain, Inc. From 1994 to 1996, he was Chief Financial Officer of both C.T.A.
America, Inc., and Ricochet International, L.L.C. Prior to that he was Senior Vice
President, Acquisitions and Due Diligence, of Associated Financial Corporation.
Mr. Loppert started his financial career with Price Waterhouse in 1978, in
Johannesburg, South Africa, before moving to their Los Angeles Office in 1980
where he rose to the position of Senior Manager. He holds Bachelor degrees in
both Accounting and Commerce, as well as a Higher Diploma in Accounting, all
from the University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg. Mr. Loppert was
designated a Chartered Accountant (South Africa) in 1980.

Friedland, Richard S., (49)
Director

Richard Friedland was elected to the Board of Directors in October 1999 and is
Chairman of the Audit Committee and serves on the Compensation Committee of
the Board of Directors of the Company. He was previously associated with
General Instrument Corporation. During his 19-year tenure, he held various
executive positions, including Chief Financial Officer, President and Chief
Operating Officer. In 1995, he was appointed Chairman of the Board and Chief
Executive Officer. Mr. Friedland currently serves on the boards of Tech-Sym
Corporation, Zilog, Inc. and Video Network Communications, Inc., as well as
several development stage companies. He earned a Bachelor of Science degree in
Accounting from Ohio State University in 1972 and a Master of Business
Administration degree from Seton Hall University in 1985.

Noterman, Arthur F., (58)
Director

Mr. Noterman, a Chartered Life Underwriter, has served as a Director since
February 1997, and serves on the Audit Committee of the Board of Directors of the
Company. An operator of his own insurance agency, Mr. Noterman is a registered
NASD broker affiliated with a Chicago, Illinois registered broker/dealer. Mr.
Noterman attended Northeastern University from 1965 to 1975 and obtained the
Chartered Life Underwriters Professional degree in 1979 from The American
College, Bryn Mawr, Pennsylvania.

Penni, Daniel E., (52)
Director

Mr. Penni has served as a Director since March 1995 and is Chairman of the
Compensation Committee, and serves on the Audit Committees of the Board of
Directors of the Company. Since March 1998, he has been an Area Executive
Vice President for Arthur J. Gallagher & Co., an insurance agency. He has worked
in many sales and administrative roles in the insurance business since 1969. He
was President of the Boston Insurance Center, Inc., an insurance agency, until
1988. Mr. Penni was founder and President of BIC Equities, Inc., a broker/dealer
registered with the NASD. Mr. Penni graduated with a Bachelor of Science degree
in 1969 from the School of Management at Boston College.

Sullivan, Angela M., (42)
Director

Ms. Sullivan Ms. Sullivan, age 42, has served as a Director since April 1996 and
serves on the Compensation Committee of the Board of Directors of the Company.
From 1988 to the present, Ms. Sullivan has been a partner in The Bay Group, a
private merger and acquisition firm, President of Great Bay Technology, Inc., and
President of Spirit Saver, Inc. Ms. Sullivan earned a Bachelor of Science degree in
Business Administration in 1980 from Salem State College. Ms. Sullivan is
married to Richard J. Sullivan.

Weaver, Constance K., (47)
Director

Ms. Weaver was elected to the Board of Directors in July 1998 and serves on the
Compensation and Audit Committees of the Board of Directors of the Company.
From 1996 to the present, Ms. Weaver has been Vice President, Investor
Relations and Financial Communications for AT&T Corporation. From 1995
through 1996 she was Senior Director, Investor Relations and Financial
Communications for Microsoft Corporation. From 1993 to 1995 she was Vice
President, Investor Relations, and from 1991 to 1993 she was Director of Investor
Relations, for MCI Communications, Inc. Ms. Weaver is a director of Primark
Corporation and the National Investor Relations Institute (NIRI). She earned a
Bachelor of Science degree from the University of Maryland in 1975.

Krawitz, Michael E., (30)
Vice President, Assistant Secretary

Mr. Krawitz joined the Company as Assistant Vice President and General
Counsel in April 1999, and was appointed Vice President and Assistant Secretary
in December 1999. From 1994 to April 1999, Mr. Krawitz was an attorney with
Fried, Frank, Harris, Shriver & Jacobson in New York. Mr. Krawitz earned a
Bachelor of Arts degree from Cornell University in 1991 and a juris doctorate from
Harvard Law School in 1994.

McLaughlin, Kevin,
Vice President, National Sales

Mr. McLaughlin has over 20 years experience in executive level sales leadership in
high technology hardware, software and consulting services. His previous
positions have included Senior Vice President of Sales for SCB Computer
Technology, Inc. (Nasdaq: SCBI) and Regional Director for Applicon, Inc., a
Schlumberger, Ltd. (NYSE: SLB) Company.

Artigliere, Jerome C., (46)
Treasurer, Vice President

Mr. Artigliere joined a subsidiary of the Company as President in January 1998,
and was appointed Vice President of the Company in April 1998, and Treasurer in
December 1999. From 1996 to 1997 he was Regional Vice President at General
Electric Capital Corporation in Portsmouth, NH. Prior to that, from 1994 to 1996 he
was State Vice President at First National Bank in Portsmouth, NH, a commercial
bank subsidiary of Peoples Heritage Bank of Portland, MA. He earned an
undergraduate degree in finance from Seton Hall University in 1977, and an MBA
from Fairleigh Dickinson University in 1980.

****************************************************************************************************************************************************

und noch deren Einkünfe 1999:




DETAILS OF ANNUAL COMPENSATION
Fiscal Year Ending:
December 31, 1999
Salary
Bonus
Other
Total
Annual
Comp.
Sullivan, Richard J.
Chairman of the Board, Chief
Executive Officer and Secretary
$457,500
$3,000,000
$9,115
$3,466,615
Sullivan, Garrett A.
President, Chief Operating Officer
and Director
$165,000
$1,500,000
$8,832
$1,673,832
Loppert, David A.
Chief Financial Officer, Vice
President
$150,000
$750,000
$19,775
$919,775
Krawitz, Michael E.
Vice President, Assistant Secretary
$94,027
$150,000
$1,541
$245,568
Artigliere, Jerome C.
Treasurer, Vice President
$98,726
$150,000
$1,938
$250,664

************************************************************************************************************************************************************
so, das wars dann aber wirklich für heut.....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[kebab]

So!!

Jetzt bin ich hoffentlich auf der richtigen Baustelle!!

[janigmbh]

Sollte es tatsächlich zu einem Kursanstieg kommen, sollte man m.E. immer die Marktkapitalisierung im Auge haben. ADSX hat derzeit 86 Mio Aktien in Umlauf. Bei den eben genannten 30$ - über die ich mich ja riesig freuen würde - wäre die company immerhin rund 2,6 Milliarden Dollar wert.
Das wird nicht ohne significante News gehen. Aber je nachdem wie die aussehen ? Warum nicht !
Vor einigen Tagen schrieb ich etwas zur IPO TRANSMETA ( Einziges produkt derzeit ist ein neuer , angeblich revulutionärer Chip ).Der IPO Preis sollte ursprünglich um die 11 $ liegen.
Und obwohl IBM, welche mit beteiligt sind an Transmeta, den chip entgegegen ersten Zusagen doch nicht bei sich verwenden will, wurde der Ipo Preis jetzt neu auf 19 Dollar festgesetzt, weil die Nachfrage exorbitant hoch war. Bei 11$ war für Transmeta bereits ein Marktwert von ca. 2,3 Milliarden $ vorhanden. Wenn die den Ipo Preis jetzt um 8 $, also rund 70% anheben, bedeutet das für Transmeta einen Marktwert von rund 3,9 Milliarden.
Und wenn sich der Ipo Preis dann an der Börse noch verdoppelt, tja, dann haben wir`s wieder gesehen.
Wenn sich für den DA ein wirklich starker Partner wie meinetwegen Qualcom oder NOKIA finden ließe, geht das Papier ab. 30 $ wären dann tatsächlich schnell drin.

Wenn........

Grüße Jani

[nautilus]

kommt nur darauf an wie dumm sich die herren von ads anstellen :-)
aufgrund von umsatz sind wir eh schon mind.10$ wert,und das ist dann eine *1 umsatzbewertung,üblich ist bis zu 4fach.


nautilus

[OesiStockpicker]

hi, jani, das ist aber ein zufall, mich interessiert transmeta auch.....,
ab wann werden die denn gehandelt die tmta, 18$?????, na prost mahlzeit......., da richten sichs wieder die Emissionsbanken.....
ob da noch genug spielraum ist......????? vorerst wohl nicht.., werd ich wohl zuwarten.....

[Brainstorm01]

Hallo,

heut war ja schon ganz schön was los im RB-Board. Die Gerüchte
um Qualcom und Nokia sind wieder da. Bin mal gespannt was heute kommt.
Hoffe natürlich auf eine Neuigkeit, die uns wirklich vom Hocker haut und den Kurs nach oben treibt.

Warten wirs ab, heute wirds bestimmt spannend.

Gruß

Brainy

[Kappo]

Bin mal gespannt, .......das was im Busch sein könnte hat man ja am Freitag
zu Handelschluß gesehen, als der Kurs wie auch die Umsätze explodiert sind.
Warten wir´s ab.

[erik der große]

MCY Enters Into Multi-Million Dollar Deal to License Its Secure Distribution and NETrax Systems

NEW YORK--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Nov. 6, 2000--Digital music distributor MCY.com, Inc. (OTC-BB: MCYC) announced today
that it has entered into an agreement to license its proprietary, secure digital encryption and distribution technologies, including its
NETrax(TM) software, to Applied Digital Solutions, Inc.

The agreement allows Applied Digital to utilize MCY`s NETrax(TM) technologies for certain business-to-business applications. Under
the terms of the agreement, MCY will receive net consideration of approximately $30 million for the grant of the license, which is
subject to government clearance under the Hart-Scott-Rodino Act of 1976, as amended. The consideration is being delivered in the
form of ADS common stock. Management anticipates that revenue from the transaction will be recognized either in the fourth quarter
ended December 31, 2000 or in the first quarter of fiscal 2001 ended March 31, 2001. The announcement was made today by
Bernhard Fritsch, Chairman and CEO of MCY.

The transaction augments MCY`s recent expansion of its business strategy into the fast-growing market for multi-channel digital content
distribution, and positions MCY as a provider of business-to-business technology solutions. A leader in digital music events, MCY is
also a pioneer in providing secure and legal solutions for downloading music from the Internet and other digital channels. Applied Digital
Solutions is a leading single-source provider of e-business solutions.

In making the announcement, Mr. Fritsch said, "Successful digital commerce is dependent upon copy protection, and protection of
intellectual property, which are the fundamental strengths of MCY`s NETrax(TM) System. By licensing our system, ADS is enhancing
its position as a leading provider of digital solutions. For MCY, this transaction shows the strong demand for our technology."

Under the terms of the agreement, MCY has granted Applied Digital a license to MCY`s digital encryption and distribution systems,
including its NETrax(TM) software, for use in various non-entertainment business-to-business applications, including medical and
education, among others. Applied Digital plans to incorporate the digital data protection of audio and video files made possible by
NETrax(TM) into the products and technologies it has developed to serve this range of businesses, including hospitals, biotechnology
companies, and others.

Keith I. Bolton, Vice President and Chief Technology Officer of Applied Digital Solutions, commented, "We are particularly excited
about the NETrax(TM) system`s secure digital encryption and distribution capabilities. Applied Digital intends to incorporate this
technology into our Digital Angel Delivery System, providing secure and fast transmission of sensitive data."

A secure and legal alternative for accessing online music, MCY offers an unparalleled array of songs and music events for audiences
worldwide. MCY has established itself as an industry leader in both pay-per-view and on-demand webcasts of events featuring today`s
top stars, including the Backstreet Boys, Puff Daddy, Michael Jackson, Paul McCartney, (a)NSYNC, Luciano Pavarotti, and Pete
Townshend, among others. In addition, MCY controls an extensive catalog of music available for secured digital downloads.
MCY.com (OTC-BB: MCYC) is based in New York with European headquarters in Munich. For more on MCY, visit
www.mcy.com.

This press release contains forward-looking statements within the meaning of The Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 (the
"Act"). In particular, when used in the preceding discussion, the words "plan," "confident that," "believe," "scheduled," "expect," or
"intend to," and similar conditional expressions are intended to identify forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Act and
are subject to the safe harbor created by the Act. Such statements are subject to certain risks and uncertainties and actual results could
differ materially from those expressed in any of the forward-looking statements. Such risks and uncertainties include, but are not limited
to, market conditions, the timing and delivery of the Company`s products, general acceptance of the Company`s products and
technologies, competitive factors, and other risks described in the Company`s SEC reports and filings.

CONTACT: Susan Blond, Inc.
Lisa Vega, 818/788-8474
[e-mail]
or
MCY Europe
Tia Ernst, [phone]
[e-mail]

[Kappo]

Tja......... was macht dem Kurs jetzt so zu schaffen ?

[Kappo]

Ist doch eigentlich eine Topmeldung.

[OesiStockpicker]

meines glaubens nach wird der kurs derzeit `gedeckelt`., ähnlich wie bei AT&S!!!!!!!max bis 33€, dann ist schluss.,
bei at&S kommen am 9. zahlen......, bis dahin geht das spiel....
bei adsx kommen am 14oder so die zahlen.....ich weiss aber nicht ob aufgrund der bevorstehenden zahlen gedecklt wird, oder aufgrund einer zu erwartenden Nachricht...?

[Kappo]

Auffällig, heute wieder über 11% Kursunterschied im HÖCHST und im NIEDRIGST-level , bei bis jetzt extrem niedrigen Umsätzen.

[Kappo]

Gibt´s wieder in den Schlußminuten einen run wie am Freitag?
Hoffentlich

[janigmbh]

Sieht heute nicht danach aus !

Grüße Jani

[Le Chef]

Ich steh in dr Kältn und wart aufn Taxi , abr `s kummt net , kummt net.....

oder

Warten auf Godot ?

Thommy

[Gilder]

@oesi
danke für die unterlagen, bist überhaupt ein toprecherchierer!!
grüsse

[OesiStockpicker]

Cree läuft auch gut!!!!!, aber morgen sollten wir zumindest über die 130 komen!!!!!!! us$, nächster widerstand 143,
der rest folgt, wenn es soweit ist.

ansonsten warten... und neue tradingideen suchen......

[OesiStockpicker]

so und jetzt noch ein Artikel aus dem Wallstreet Journal:heutige Ausgabe(letzter Absatz)

November 6, 2000



It`s Not Big Brother Invading
Kids` Privacy, It`s Mom and Dad

By ANDREA PETERSEN
Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL

Lindsey Bargo, 15 years old, was triumphantly strolling out of a Gap store
with her new $149.99 black leather jacket when her cell phone rang. It was
her mother.

"A leather jacket? Are you sure this is what you need with your money?"
Julie Bargo recalls saying to her daughter.

Although Ms. Bargo was more than a hundred miles away in her State
College, Pa., office at AccuWeather, she still knew what Lindsey was doing.
Every time her daughter buys something with her debit card, Ms. Bargo, an
Internet executive, gets an instant e-mail from PocketCard Inc.
(www.pocketcard.com), with details on how much Lindsey spent, where she
spent it and the date and time. Sometimes, as in this case, it even tells her
what the money was spent on. "I told her, `You can`t hide from me,` `` Ms.
Bargo says.

In the age-old battle between independence-seeking teenagers and worried
parents, the older generation is packing some new weapons. Caller ID tells
parents who is calling their kids. Cell-phone bills detail every local number
the kid has called. EZ-Pass, the electronic toll-taker, records the exact time
and place that junior starts cruising along the New Jersey Turnpike, and puts
it all on statements. New computer programs track just about everything --
every Web site visited, every e-mail sent -- that a teenager does online.

And parental reconnaissance is going to get a lot more intense. New
technologies will soon allow parents to download live Web-cam videos onto
their cell phones, showing exactly what is going on at home while they are
away. Companies such as SnapTrack and Trimble Navigation are launching
technologies that will turn cell phones into homing devices so parents will
always know where their kids are.

Daniel Rosen was brought down by an electronic version of a trail of bread
crumbs. While the 13-year-old from West Chester, Pa., has his own
computer and access to America Online, his parents use AOL`s parental
controls, which permit Daniel to go only to those Web sites deemed
appropriate for young teens. But that wasn`t enough to keep Daniel from
wandering around the Web. While his parents weren`t looking, Daniel broke
into his father`s AOL account and visited some X-rated Web sites. "He
cracked my password," says the boy`s dad, Mike Rosen, who is the chief
executive of an Internet software company, 2Ce Inc., in King of Prussia, Pa.
"He just tried everything he could think of." Daniel says it wasn`t all that
hard; the password had been saved on the computer.

Mr. Rosen might never have known about the security breach, but his son
left electronic fingerprints. Mr. Rosen started getting unsolicited e-mail
messages from pornographic Web sites. Curious, he looked at the browser
cache on his computer -- the record of sites visited -- and found addresses
with risque names. Mr. Rosen then checked his cookie file. The porn sites
had sent a number of cookies -- little computer programs that recognize a
returning visitor and track his movements -- onto Mr. Rosen`s hard drive.
Daniel was in big trouble.

"I scared the hell out of him," Mr. Rosen says. "I told him he could go to jail
for going into somebody`s computer."

Daniel fessed up. His punishment? A month without using the computer for
anything but homework. "I got busted," Daniel says sheepishly. "I think my
dad can see wherever I go."

Many parents can do exactly that. Norm Zurawski, a locksmith in Schofield,
Wis., and the father of three children, uses a computer program called
Spector to track everything his kids do on the computer. The program takes
frequent electronic "snapshots" of the computer screen and lets Mr.
Zurawski replay the action later. The kids don`t know how he sees what
they are doing.

Mr. Zurawksi`s elder son, 17-year-old Nate, has felt the effects, however.
When Nate was caught visiting some pornographic Web sites, his father
forbade him to go online for a week. But after Mr. Zurawski unplugged the
family`s high-speed DSL Internet connection and went to sleep, Nate
plugged his computer into a dial-up phone line and got to the Internet using a
friend`s AOL screen name. "I knew what was going on because I got these
AOL screen shots," Mr. Zurawksi says.

Circling the Posse

Even when kids aren`t caught red-handed, their parents` technology tools can
cramp their style. Brandon Diamond, 16, got a pager earlier this year, and
most of his friends have cell phones. The kids use them to stay in touch with
one another -- and with their parents -- during afternoons hanging out in the
pool halls and bowling alleys of Pace, Fla.

But Brandon says the cell phones and pagers have made it easier for
parents, who`ve got all their numbers, to keep track of everybody in his
posse. "It is like the parents` secret service," Brandon says. "All the parents
check in with each other, so you`ve got to be good and not act stupid." The
pager does have one advantage for Brandon. He isn`t expected home at
night now until 10:30 (his old curfew was 9:30) because, he says, his parents
feel more comfortable knowing they can always reach him.

But being in touch can ruin a tender teenage moment. Aaron Fleishman, 16,
was at his girlfriend Moira`s house when his mother called him on his cell
phone to find out when he was coming home. The young couple was busy
making out and the call, Aaron says, killed the mood. "My girlfriend was sort
of upset," he says. "It is kind of annoying that my parents can call me
anytime." Couldn`t he have just turned off his cell phone? No, he says -- he`d
get a lecture from his parents.

Of course, for every new parental trick, there are kids figuring out ways to
thwart it. Zak Ellsworth`s parents tried to keep tabs on him by installing
caller-ID on their home phone and looking through the browser cache and
cookie file on his computer. "My parents keep me on a short leash," he says.

But they were no match for Zak, a 17-year-old high-school senior in Reno,
Nev., who maintains the computers for his school`s Junior ROTC program.
After going online, Zak simply erases any tracks by clearing the computer`s
browser cache ("There`s a little button in Internet Explorer that says `erase
history,` " he says.) He also cleans out his computer`s cookie file.

If teenagers think they have it bad, they should be thankful they aren`t in
their little brother`s and sister`s shoes. Companies are getting ready to
unleash more powerful methods of surveillance.

Xanboo Inc. (www.xanboo.com), in New York, plans to begin selling a
$179.95 home-surveillance system in January. It will include a camera and a
motion sensor, so worried parents can get an e-mail at work telling them
when the front door is opened. A camera will beam live video of all who
enter.

PacketVideo Corp. (www.packetvideo.com), in San Diego, Calif., is taking
the idea even further. Early next year it expects to offer technology that will
send streaming video to a parent`s cell phone. "You`ll be able to check on
your kids from anywhere," says Jim Carol, PacketVideo`s chief executive.

Kids on the Map

A number of companies are creating global-positioning system technology to
embed in cell phones and electronic personal organizers. Qualcomm Inc. is
already shipping chip sets with built-in GPS technology to cell-phone
hardware manufacturers. They can be used for everything from beaming
driving directions to keeping track of elderly parents. "You could imagine
logging onto a Web site and typing in a cell-phone number, and a map pops
up to tell you where your teenage kid is," says Steve Poizner, president of
the company`s SnapTrack subsidiary.

Applied Digital Solutions, in Palm Beach, Fla., is getting ready to unveil
Digital Angel, which it plans to put in everything from cell phones to
bracelets and luggage tags. Not only will Digital Angel tell where a person
wearing the device is located, it can also record heart rate and body
temperature. So the device will suit cardiac patients and nervous parents
alike. The company has a patent for a device that can be surgically
implanted beneath the skin.


hoffe, Euch damit gedient zu haben. Warten lohnt sich!

[Kappo]

Na, Ihr müden Krieger!

[erik der große]

Hallo Kappo,

bin heute auch mal wieder da.
Hatte Nachtdienst, bin jetzt aber ausgeschlafen und gespannt was heute abgeht.
Gestern gabs ja nichts Neues.

Es wurde ja angekündigt, daß es im vierten Quartal einen Deal mit einer sehr großen Fa. geben soll.
Da wir mitten im vierten Quartal sind, kann es ja nicht mehr lange dauern bis eine entsprechende Meldung rauskommt.

Erik

[Kappo]

Na, da hoffen wir mal das Beste.
Wenn denn nur bald mal die Stückzahlen ansteigen würde, dann hätte auch der Kurs mehr aussagekraft.

[OesiStockpicker]

und 2 neue movies auf der digitalangel.tv - Seite!!!!!
sogar von der Präsentation in NY!!!!
http://www.digitalangel.tv/sullivan_bolton_ny.ram
http://www.digitalangel.tv/zhou_ny_demo.ram

Das Werkl läuft und es wird nicht mehr lange dauern, bis wir die ersten Anwendungen realisiert haben.....

[Brainstorm01]

Hallo zusammen,

würde mich freuen, wenn wir mal etwas genauer über die Zahlen von ADSX diskutieren könnten. Habe gestern noch ein bisschen herum
geschaut und dabei sind folgende Fragen aufgetaucht:

zu ATEC:

ADSX hat eine Lizenz für 10 Mio$ verkauft.(das Geld dafür hat ADSX meiner Ansicht nach ja schon bekommen)
ADSX hat dann anschließend eine Lizenz für 30 Mio$ gekauft.(soweit ich weiss, ist doch niemandem bekannt wann dieser Betrag abgezahlt
werden muß - oder? kann doch gut sein dass ADSX nur jedes Jahr z.B. 10 Mio $ zahlen muß)
ADSX hat 20 Mio $ von privaten Investoren bekommen.
----------------------------------------------------------------
Dann könnte es also doch so sein, dass ADSX noch 10-20 Mio $ übrig hat und damit kann es doch ATEC kaufen. Die haben eine
Marktkapitalisierung von ca. 10-15 Mio $.

Dazu noch: Financial summary
ATEC Group is a systems integrator and solution provider in the field of computer technology and
information systems. Services include procurement, build to order systems, network design, project
implementation and help desk support. For the fiscal year ended 6/00, net sales fell 33% to $71.9 million.
Net income totalled $297 thousand, vs. a loss of $4.3 million. Results reflect the Company`s exit from its
wholesale business, offset by the absence of a one-time $3 million charge.

Sind zumindest Profitabel.

Zu DFCO:

Dazu noch: Financial summary
DFCO manufactures a broad line of electronic and visual identification devices for the companion animal, livestock,
laboratory animal, fish and wildlife markets worldwide. For the nine months ended 6/30/00, revenues increased 1%
to $15 million. Net income before extraordinary item fell 11% to $2.4 million. Results reflect increased Visual
identification product revenues. Net income was offset by lower gross margins due to a change in product mix.

NEW YORK (Standard & Poor`s)--Aug 9, 2000, Destron Fearing Corp., announced 3Q EPS $0.03 vs. $0.10 and 9 mos. EPS $0.17 vs. $0.20 .
Results for 1999 exclude extraordinary credits of $0.03 per share for the 9 mos. from early extinguishment debt.

``While our third quarter results came in, as anticipated, under last year`s results, this quarter was a transitional period leading to what we see as a significant
acceleration of our growth beginning in the fourth quarter of this fiscal year and continuing throughout fiscal 2001,`` said Randolph K. Geissler, president and chief
executive officer. ``Last year we fulfilled a significant reader system order for our fisheries market in the third quarter that made comparisons to that quarter difficult
this year. Additionally, in support of the growth that we anticipate going forward, we have committed additional funds for research and development as well as for
sales and marketing. Lastly, also affecting our bottom line was over $160,000 of expenses associated with the pending merger with Applied Digital Solutions, Inc.
(Nasdaq: ADSX - news).``

Sind zumindest Profitabel und sagen, dass sie ein gutes 4 Quartal erwarten und ein gutes Jahr 2001.

Also zu ATEC und DFCO: Sully hat zwei Firmen gekauft, die zumindest schon Profit machen und eigentlich zu einem Kurs wo er Sie
wahrscheinlich billiger nicht hätte kaufen können.

Dann war da doch auch noch was mit einem Kredit o.ä. von 90 Mio $ von Microsoft?

Also könnte es doch genauso gut sein, dass ADSX bekanntgibt, dass sie keine Miesen mehr machen oder? Außerdem wenn ADSX im
4. Quartal wirklich ein JV schließt und eine oder mehrere Lizenzen verkauft(wobei man ja nicht wissen kann, wieviel sie für eine bekommen, es
kann ja auch sein, dass andere Firmen dann bereit sind, z.B. 50 Mio $ für eine Lizenz für den DA bereit sind zu zahlen - oder?), dann
wäre es doch so, dass ADSX von der Finanziellen Seite gar nicht mehr so schlecht da steht oder. Da ich auch davon ausgehe, dass ADSX seine
Umsatzziele dieses Jahr erreicht oder vielleicht sogar noch ein bisschen übertreffen kann.
Und wenn dann noch der Kurs ein bisschen steigt, na dann ist ADSX doch in einer sehr sehr guten Position.

Also wäre wie gesagt froh, wenn wir mal ein bisschen darüber diskutieren würden, da Diskussionen über alle mögliche Interessenten oder
Gerüchte wie das mit Qualcom oder Nokia, sowieso erst wert sind darüber zu reden wenn es keine Gerüchte mehr sind.

Gruß

Brainy

[erik der große]

Ich weiß nur, daß der Erlös aus dem Lizenzverkauf 9 Mil $ und 1 Mil in Aktien von der Lizenz-kaufenden Fa. einbringt.
Dieser Erlös wird erst im vierten Quartal eigebucht werden.
Jetzt sind doch erst mal die Zahlen für das abgeschlossene dritte Quartal fällig.
Ich bin auch mal gespannt, ob Sale weiter Abchreibungen vornehmen muß. Im letzten Quartal waren es ja einige Mil.
Gestern hatte ich es schon mal gepostet, bis Ende Dez. wird ADSX einen großen Partner/Lizenznehmer bekanntgeben,
Auszug aus dem Interview vom Freitag:
"Following the show, we feel VERY confident that we will be in partnership or sign a license during Q4."

erik

[frosch66]

Irgendjemand hat den Begriff "Kurs deckeln" verwendet, bin neu und wüßte gerne die Bedeutung.

[erik der große]

Der Oesi hat den Begriff "deckeln" benutzt.
Ich glaube Oesi meint damit, das der Kurs von anderen niedrig gehalten wird,
z.B. durch Angebot von Aktien zu niedrigen Kursen. Aus Gründen, die wir nicht kennen.
Lange Zeit hatte ich auch diese Meinung, aber mittlerweile wüßte ich nicht, warum dies gemacht werden sollte.

Erik

[Zenit]

@brainy : da haette ich die antwort vom rb ja auch hier posten koennen

muss deine euphorie leider ein wenig bremsen, brainstorm
nicht dass ich es mir nicht auch wuenschen wurde das adsx schwarze zahlen schreibt (bin long)

aber:
nachdem adsx in der vergangeheit jeden noch so kleinen kundengewinn im b2b sektor in eine meldung verpackt hat, ist es in letzter zeit sehr sehr ruhig um dieses standbein geworden.
woher, wenn nicht aus diesem resort, sollen denn die unerwarteten einnahmen kommen ??


zur meldung vom 6.11. :
warum wurde bis jetzt kaum ueber die meldung vom 6.11. diskutiert ?
warum lizensiert adsx eine zusaetzliche daten-verschluesselungs-loesung (fuer immerhin vorrausichtlich 30M$ !!!!), zu der bereits am 25.10. lizensierten technologie von einem nicht genannten unternehmen (fuer 40M$ !!)

[erik der große]

Ich denke, das die 30 Mil $ für die Lizenz (Meldung 06.11.00) in den 40 Mil $ (Meldung vom 25.1.00) enthalten sind.

Auszug aus der Meldung v. 25.10.00:
"...Applied Digital Solutions, Inc. (Nasdaq: ADSX - news) today announced that it has agreed to acquire a series of licenses to proprietary technologies from an
undisclosed partner...."

Hier steht, daß ADSX mehrere Lizenzen kaufen will, also nicht, daß schon etwas gekauft wurde.

Dann, am 06.11.00, wurde die schon bekannte Meldung, daß ADSX von der besagten Fa. Lizenzen für 30 Mil $ kaufen,
ich sag mal "gefunden".
ADSX war ja nicht in der Lage, die Nachricht selbst rauszubringen. Aber wieso nicht?
40-30=10.
Also bleiben noch 10 Mil $ für weitere Lizenzkäufe übrig.

Habe ich das so richtig verstanden? Ich glaube schon.


Erik

[Zenit]

jau, koennte gut sein..

bleibt nur noch die frage warum dann MCYC.OB nicht genannt werden wollte. ist fuer nen over the counter wert doch ein major deal...
hoffe im hinblick auf die 4 qtr. earnings das es der selbe deal war

[erik der große]

Ist das nicht komisch?
Nasdaq fällt immer tiefer und ADSX bleibt davon verschont.
Wenn morgen die Nasdaq steigt, dann fällt ADSX bestimmt wieder.
Vermutl. steigt ADSX noch in den letzten Min.
Ach ja, ADSX ist schon merkwürdig.

Noch einer da ?

Erik

[erik der große]

Die Fa, von welcher ADSX Lizenzen für 30 Mil $ kaufen will, oder schon hat ( wir Aktionäre bekommen ja kein Bescheid),
nennt sich
MCY.COM INC (OTC BB:MCYC.OB).
Die Jahresspanne ist von ca. 1$ bis 17$.
Die Marktkapitalisierung beträgt beim Kurs von 1$ - 59,6Mil $.
Die Meldung vom 06.11.00 hat nichts ausgelöst, keine Kursexplosion, nichts. Und da bekommen die 30 Mil $!

In Deutschland werden die auch gehandelt, WKN 923036.
Vielleicht sollte man hier einsteigen und warten bis ADSX die Meldung heraus bringt. Evtl. löst das ja ein wenig Kurssteigerung aus.



ADSX-Abschlußkurs übrigens 3,0156$, -0,0469$.
Nasdaq 3239,92 Punkte, -175,87Punkte, -5,15% .
ADSX ist zwar nicht gefallen, aber gut gehalten.



Erik

[janigmbh]

Also dafür, daß heute bei vielen großen Playern ( SUNW, EMC, CSCO und, und,und...) regelrechte Blutbäder angerichtet wurden, können wir uns wirklich nicht beklagen über das kleine Minus von 1 %.
Das mit den Lizenzkosten sehe ich übrigens genauso. Die 30 Mio sind mit Sicherheit in den 40 Mio enthalten.
Die Meldung kam nicht von ADSX sondern vom Lizenzgeber. Warum der nicht brutal steigt, verstehe ich auch nicht. Vielleicht wartet man auf eine Bestätigung von ADSX, die ja bis heute fehlt.

Ansonsten gibt`s nichts Neues. Über die kommenden Zahlen zu spekulieren halte ich für wenig sinnvoll, da alles im Kaffeesatz endet.

Also denn bis in Kürze Jani

[erik der große]

Nachbörslich schon 100000 Stück gelaufen.
Einkäufe, weils günstig ist, oder kalte Füße.

Erik

[Brainstorm01]

Moin zusammen,

wer suchet der findet!

11/06/00 - MCY COM INC - Enters Into Multi-Million Dollar Deal to License Its Secure - Distribution
and NETrax Systems

New York, New York, Nov. 06, 2000 (Market News Publishing via COMTEX) -- Digital music distributor MCY.com, Inc. announced that it has
entered into an agreement to license its proprietary, secure digital encryption and distribution technologies, including its NETrax(TM) software,
to Applied Digital Solutions, Inc.

The agreement allows Applied Digital to utilize MCY`s NETrax(TM) technologies for certain business-to-business applications. Under the terms
of the agreement, MCY will receive net consideration of approximately $30 million for the grant of the license, which is subject to government
clearance under the Hart-Scott-Rodino Act of 1976, as amended. The consideration is being delivered in the form of ADS common stock.
Management anticipates that revenue from the transaction will be recognized either in the fourth quarter ended December 31, 2000 or in the
first quarter of fiscal 2001 ended March 31, 2001. The announcement was made this day by Bernhard Fritsch, Chairman and CEO of MCY.

The transaction augments MCY`s recent expansion of its business strategy into the fast-growing market for multi-channel digital content
distribution, and positions MCY as a provider of business-to-business technology solutions. A leader in digital music events, MCY is also a
pioneer in providing secure and legal solutions for downloading music from the Internet and other digital channels. Applied Digital Solutions is a
leading single-source provider of e-business solutions.

In making the announcement, Mr. Fritsch said, "Successful digital commerce is dependent upon copy protection, and protection of intellectual
property, which are the fundamental strengths of MCY`s NETrax(TM) System. By licensing our system, ADS is enhancing its position as a
leading provider of digital solutions. For MCY, this transaction shows the strong demand for our technology."

Under the terms of the agreement, MCY has granted Applied Digital a license to MCY`s digital encryption and distribution systems, including
its NETrax(TM) software, for use in various non-entertainment business-to-business applications, including medical and education, among
others. Applied Digital plans to incorporate the digital data protection of audio and video files made possible by NETrax(TM) into the products
and technologies it has developed to serve this range of businesses, including hospitals, biotechnology companies, and others.

Keith I. Bolton, Vice President and Chief Technology Officer of Applied Digital Solutions, commented, "We are particularly excited about the
NETrax(TM) system`s secure digital encryption and distribution capabilities. Applied Digital intends to incorporate this technology into our
Digital Angel Delivery System, providing secure and fast transmission of sensitive data."

A secure and legal alternative for accessing online music, MCY offers an unparalleled array of songs and music events for audiences
worldwide. MCY has established itself as an industry leader in both pay-per-view and on-demand webcasts of events featuring today`s top
stars, including the Backstreet Boys, Puff Daddy, Michael Jackson, Paul McCartney, (a)NSYNC, Luciano Pavarotti, and Pete Townshend,
among others. In addition, MCY controls an extensive catalog of music available for secured digital downloads. MCY.com (OTC-BB: MCYC) is
based in New York with European headquarters in Munich. For more on MCY, visit www.mcy.com.

This press release contains forward-looking statements within the meaning of The Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 (the "Act").
In particular, when used in the preceding discussion, the words "plan," "confident that," "believe," "scheduled," "expect," or "intend to," and
similar conditional expressions are intended to identify forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Act and are subject to the safe
harbor created by the Act. Such statements are subject to certain risks and uncertainties and actual results could differ materially from those
expressed in any of the forward-looking statements. Such risks and uncertainties include, but are not limited to, market conditions, the timing
and delivery of the Company`s products, general acceptance of the Company`s products and technologies, competitive factors, and other risks
described in the Company`s SEC reports and filings.

-0-

STOCK SYMBOLS: [(mcyc)] [(adsx)] TEL: [phone] Susan Blond, Inc. TEL: [phone] Susan Blond, Inc Lisa Vega,
[e-mail] TEL: [phone] MCY Europe Tia Ernst, [e-mail] ______________________________________
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reserved. Fax[phone] MarketbyFax(tm) - To get the NEWS as it happens, call [phone].


Besonder im 3. Absatz:

Management anticipates that revenue from the transaction will be recognized either in the fourth quarter ended December 31, 2000 or in the
first quarter of fiscal 2001 ended March 31, 2001. The announcement was made this day by Bernhard Fritsch, Chairman and CEO of MCY.

Könnte das etwa diese angebliche Nachricht sein, die noch kommen soll??

Außerdem finde ich, dass man doch auch hier wieder ein kleines "Puzzle"-Stück für den DA findet:

Keith I. Bolton, Vice President and Chief Technology Officer of Applied Digital Solutions, commented, "We are particularly excited about the
NETrax(TM) system`s secure digital encryption and distribution capabilities. Applied Digital intends to incorporate this technology into our
Digital Angel Delivery System, providing secure and fast transmission of sensitive data."

Außerdem noch gefunden:

REVENUES (Thousands of U.S. Dollars)

QUARTERS 1997 1998 1999 2000

MAR 18,127 38,784 51,573 85,153
JUN 24,744 53,680 72,955 63,863
SEP 29,195 59,044 107,262
DEC 31,093 55,573 104,951

TOTAL 103,159 207,081 336,741

EARNINGS PER SHARE

MAR 0.050 0.020 -0.040 -0.020
JUN 0.060 0.070 0.010 -0.350
SEP 0.080 0.050 0.010
DEC 0.020 0.000 0.100

TOTAL 0.210 0.140 0.080

7/99, Name changed from Applied Cellular Technology.


GROWTH RATES 1 YEAR 3 YEAR 5 YEAR
Revenue 62.61% 156.81% 301.44%
EPS -17.04% -8.87% 5.04%
Dividend NM% NM% NM%

Daraus kann man zumindest sehen, dass das 3. und 4. Quartal immer die Umsatzstärksten Quartale waren. Und selbst wenn
ADSX dieses Jahr im 3. und 4. Quartal nur genau denselben Umsatz machen wie im letzten Jahr (wovon ich nicht ausgehe), dann
würde ADSX immer noch ca. 23 Mio $ mehr Umsatz machen als letztes Jahr.(Ist ja auch immerhin etwas)

Falls es jemand interessiert:

INSTITUTIONAL & INSIDER OWNERSHIP
PURCHASES SALES NET PURCH %OWNED
Institutions (3 Months) 1.060 Mil 0.371 Mil 0.689 Mil 5.8%
Insiders (6 Months) 0.000 Mil 0.000 Mil 0.000 Mil 15.1%

Und zuguterletzt:
(ist aber schon etwas älter, war zumindest kein Datum angegeben)

Little BoPeep needed Applied Digital Solutions` "Digital Angel," a global
positioning system (GPS) chip for keeping tabs on animals, valuables,
and, perhaps, people. The company (formerly Applied Cellular
Technology) provides products and services for telecommunications,
networking, and e-business. Subsidiary IntelleSale.com (44% of sales)
sells computers and related products online. The company`s
acquisition of Destron Fearing, a developer and manufacturer of animal
identification products, strengthens its move into the pet chip business.
Applied Digital continues to divest noncore assets and to scoop up
acquisitions in the e-commerce and computer telephony markets. US
customers account for nearly 80% of sales.

Wenn ich mir das durchlese, dann bedeutet es doch dass mit Intellesale ca.44% des Umsatzes
gemacht werden, demnach wird sozusagen mit e-commerce und b2b 56% des Umsatzes gemacht.
Aber ADSX wil es schaffen dort 80% des Umsatzes zu machen(wenn ich nichts falsch verstehe).
Also kümmern sie sich doch darum, dass im core-business ein Umsatzwachstum zustandekommt.


so ich hoffe das hat wieder etwas zum großen "Mysterium"-ADSX beigetragen:-)

Warten wirs ab wir werden ja sehen.

Gruß

Brainy

[Brainstorm01]

Was ich noch fragen wollte:

NEW YORK (Standard & Poor`s)--Aug 14, 2000, Applied Digital Solutions, announced 2Q loss per sh. of $0.35 vs. EPS $0.01 & 6 mos. loss per sh. of $0.38
vs. loss of $0.03.

Results for 2000 include charge of $17M in 2nd quarter & 6 mos. from writedowns, reserves & costs related to cancelled IPO.

Was bedeuted denn dieses: & 6 mos. ?????
wäre dankbar für Aufklärung

Gruß

Brainy

[OesiStockpicker]

alle schmähstad???? wo habt Ihr Euch alle verkrochen????
wieder mal eine sch.... woche...., heute wars schon ziemlich kritisch für unser baby, das low bei 2,78 us$,
ein schnäppchen..., aber die gibt es hierzulande ebenso....:
AT&S, Pankl, auch em.tv!!!!!
weiters beobachtet gericom.....!!!!!!

[erik der große]

Abend!

[erik der große]

Anstieg Institutioneller Anleger

Quelle:
http://www.nasdaq.com/asp/Holdings.asp?symbol=ADSX%60&select…

Institutioneller Anteil auf 7,28% gestiegen, 42 Aktienhalter.
Gestern noch 6,69%.
Vorvorgestern noch 6,5%.

Keine extreme Steigerungen, aber stetig.

Solange die Institutionellen noch an ADSX glauben......


Erik

[Spectrum2000]

Hallo Hoffende,

stellt Euch mal vor, wenn erst am 17.11. das Wahlergebnis endgültig bekanntgegeben wird und am 16.11. gibt ADSX die Quartalszahlen bekannt.

Wer weiß was dann passiert?

Das wird nichts für schwache Nerven.

Ist im Moment eh egal, selbst viele Giganten müssen 100% zulegen um an ihr Hoch anzuknüpfen.

Zur Zeit ist wahnsinnig viel Geld vernichtet worden, ich hoffe nur, daß hört auch mal
wieder auf.

In Hoffnung, Spectrum!

[erik der große]

Auch wieder so´ne Sache.
Atec(TEC) hat gestern in einem neuen SEC-Filing nähere Informationen über den Kauf von Atec-Anteilen durch ADSX
bekanntgegeben.
Quelle:
http://www.nasdaq.com/asp/quotes_sec.asp?symbol=TEC`&selecte…
und dann Sec-Filing vom 09.11.00.
Hat ADSX es einfach nicht nötig uns zu informieren?

Erik

[frosch66]

Interessanter Bericht von der christlichen Lobby, die in den Staaten besonders stark ist. www.worthynews.com/news-features/digital-angel.html

[OesiStockpicker]

endlich eine Antwort von der Swatch Group....:

zur Erinnerung nochmal meine Mail:

Dear Sirs,
I`ve read in an US magazin about a company named ADSX, which has unveiled a
small chip. According their announcement this chip is able to track people
through GPS Tech. and also it is able to implement a biosensor. The article
says that ADSX is in discussion with a WatchMaker. No name defined. Now my
question: Can you tell me, if Swatch is planning to
produce watches with sutch chips implemented.
P.S: this chip is called Digital Angel!

I am looking forward to your prompt answer to ****************************
Thank you in advance.

und hier die Antwort(achtet auf meine Mail, was ich darin schrieb und was geantwortet wurde...)

Dear Mr. ********
Thank you for your mail to which we can now pass you the following
information:
ADS has bought the DESTRON company, specialized in the field of RFID
identification of animals and one of our customers. At this time, we have no
concrete details about this specific project.
With best regards
[e-mail]
Barbara Zaech

*************************************************************************************************************************
strike, ich hatte Recht......dürfte wirklich passen...., ...and one of our customers.....
das dürfte meine EM-Marin Geschichte, ich glaube im Thread 9 gewesen sein....!
Nun gut, wenns für Tiere gut ist, kann es für Uhren auch nicht schlecht sein........, und die Produktion wäre im eigenen Hause.....,
womit Swatch alles in der Hand hätte.
Ihr werdet jetzt sagen, ok, aber in der Mail wurde von Destron gesprochen....ja, das stimmt, aber ist Destron nicht massgeblich am Digital Angel beteiligt,
ist der CEO von DigitalAngel nicht der ehemaliger Destron President- ich meine hier Randy Geissler...!

[OesiStockpicker]

NEWS VON DER DIGITAL ANGEL SEITE:

Rede Sullivan`s bei der Präsentation:

http://www.digitalangel.net/graphics/from_ceo_lit.gif

[OesiStockpicker]

an frosch:
auch wenn das in einem christlichen forum steht, ehrlich gesagt, die können schreiben, was sie wollen, ich halte von dem ganzen christlichen getue sowieso nichts...,
die haben doch sowieso alle eine doppelmoral, also was solls?
und noch etwas, habt ihr euch das angesehen:
http://www.digitalangel.net/graphics/from_ceo_lit.gif
das ist nämlich seine rede von der präsentation, und wenn man genauer liest:

All told, we`ve studied 26 potential vertical
markets for Digital Angel, and uncovered a
Digital Angel marketplace for those applications
that is conservatively estimated to exceed $70
billion. $70 billion dollars!

That`s a huge opportunity … and that`s just in the United States market. The worldwide
potential is even bigger.

And let me be very clear on one important point. This potential marketplace I`m talking <<<<-------
about is for an attachable device … something worn on the outside … close to the skin. <<<<-------

We`re not planning on or even considering any other application at this time. Only external uses! <<<<----------

[kingtom]

ADSX tut weiterhin was für`s Kerngeschäft, dem Kurs hilft es jedoch leider Gottes nicht auf die Sprünge (schön waren die Zeiten, als wenigstens die 3$ als felsenfester Boden gelten konnten):

Applied Digital Solutions Subsidiary Launches New State-of-the-Art Facilities At the Riverside University Research Park in Southern California

PALM BEACH, Fla.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Nov. 10, 2000--Applied Digital Solutions, Inc. (NASDAQ: ADSX), a leading, single-source provider of e-business solutions, today announced that its eBusiness Practice (formerly known as Timely Technology Corporation) will open the doors on December 4, 2000, to its all-new, state-of-the-art application center and eBusiness software development lab.

Both the new center and lab will be located in the University Research Park area of the 856-acre Riverside Regional Technology Park.

Richard J. Sullivan, Chairman and CEO of Applied Digital Solutions, said in a prepared statement: "The opening of these new facilities for our eBusiness Practice is extremely exciting. Riverside County, the City of Riverside and the University of California, Riverside, have created the ultimate location for business development and technological innovation in the Technology Park. We`re looking forward to building on the great partnerships we`ve established in Riverside and we know that the state-of-the-art infrastructure at the Technology Park will help us do just that. This is an ideal location for developing new eBusiness applications as well as deploying mission critical support for many of Applied Digital`s innovative projects, including our breakthrough Digital Angel(TM) technology and supporting communications Delivery System."

Digital Angel communications technology, recently unveiled at an October 30, 2000, event in New York City, is the first-ever operational combination of advanced sensor technology and Web-enabled wireless telecommunications linked to GPS location-tracking systems. Digital Angel offers numerous potential applications, from medical monitoring for at-risk patients and e-commerce security, to managing the commodity supply chain and pet/property location tracking services. Digital Angel data is transmitted wirelessly, on a real time basis, to an Internet-integrated ground station and made available on a Web-enabled desktop, laptop or wireless device. The Applied Digital Solutions` new Technology Park facility will be the primary application center for the entire Digital Angel(TM) Delivery System.

Applied Digital selected the Technology Park in Riverside because of its prime location and distinctive technological advantages. In the heart of what has become a major center for software technology, the new location links the Company with Riverside City and County resources and the University of California Riverside`s prestigious academic and research programs. Moreover, Technology Park accommodates the unique amenities required by technology-based companies, making it an ideal location for Applied Digital`s eBusiness Practice.

Michael Beck, Director of New Initiatives and Economic Development at the University of California Riverside (UCR), is also extremely enthusiastic about integrating Digital Angel`s requirements into the University Research Park facility. "Actualizing the numerous capabilities and broad functionality of Digital Angel is exciting from both a technological and regional perspective. I`m thrilled to see that Applied Digital`s eBusiness Practice will be able to take advantage of the infrastructure that`s deployed throughout Technology Park in supporting the Digital Angel Delivery System."

Beck went on to describe the information infrastructure that will be available at Technology Park. "We have two primary fiber optics providers, one of which is capable of providing up to one gigabit of Internet service within 24 hours. Plus the city of Riverside`s public utility is installing a 48-strand fiber ring within the Technology Park, which is connected to a co-location point-of-presence for all major Internet carriers, just a mile-and-a-half from Applied Digital`s new facilities. So there`s an ongoing ability to expand multiple networks within the Technology Park. This will prove extremely helpful in supporting the Digital Angel Delivery System -- as will the proximity to UCR, affording Applied Digital ready access to the expertise of our Computer Science and Engineering faculty and students from the College of Engineering, which specializes in networks, wireless communications and nano technologies."

Commenting on the upcoming move, Bradley J. Hudson, Executive Director and Assistant County Executive Officer, County of Riverside Economic Development Agency said: "The County of Riverside is very pleased and excited that Applied Digital Solutions has agreed to relocate their outstanding eBusiness Practice to the University Research Park. We are convinced that Applied Digital`s presence in the park will help to attract many top level, high-technology oriented companies to Riverside." More About Applied Digital Solutions - eBusiness Practice

Applied Digital Solutions - eBusiness Practice (formerly known as Timely Technology Corporation) provides innovative e-commerce solutions to a broad range of industries including government, mortgage, insurance and retail organizations; offers distance learning solutions tailored to the unique needs of businesses and organizations; and is committed to promoting e-commerce through community seminars and its ongoing partnership with UCR Extension. Timely Technology Corporation became a subsidiary of Applied Digital Solutions, Inc. in July 2000. For more information, call 909-351-1882, or visit www.timely-technology.com. About Applied Digital Solutions, Inc.

Applied Digital Solutions is a leading edge, single-source provider of e-business solutions. The company differentiates itself in the marketplace by enabling e-business through Computer Telephony Internet Integration (CTII). With five-year growth (from 1994 to 1998) of 64,012%, Applied Digital Solutions is ranked as the fifth fastest-growing technology company by Deloitte & Touche in its 1999 Technology Fast 500 listing. For more information, visit the company`s web site at www.adsx.com. bla bla

Trotzdem ein schönes Wochenende wünscht

kingtom

[erik der große]

Angeblich gibts morgen schon Quartalszahlen, Montag den 13.11.00.
Quelle: www.whispers.com.

Wollen wir hoffen, daß die "one-time non-recurring charge of $17.0 million" von IntelleSale im zweiten Quartal wirklich
nur einmalig war.
Das dritte Quartal lief vom 01.07.00 bis 30.09.00.

Folgende Fa. wurden im 3. Quartal aufgekauft

24.07.00 ADSX kauft Perimeter Tachnology
02.08.00 ADSX kauft Computer Equity Inc.
04.08.00 ADSX kauft Timely Technology
15.08.00 ADSX kauft WebNet Services
11.09.00 ADSXgibt den Zusammenschluß zw. Digital Angel.net und Destron Fearing Corporation bekannt

Alle Umsätze müßten folglich mit ins dritte Quartal einfließen.
Cash-Bezahlungen aber auch.

Na, warten wir es mal ab.

Erik

[Brainstorm01]

Hallo,

@Erik der Große:
hast du auch herausgefunden, wieviel Umsatz die Unternehmen, die ADSX im 3.Quartal aufgekauft hat, gemacht haben?
Wenn ja, dann poste es doch bitte noch - wäre bestimmt nicht uninteressant.

Danke im Voraus.

Gruß

Brainy

[erik der große]

Auf die Schnelle habe ich nur was über Destron gefunden:


The Company`s operating activities provided net cash of $1,974,000 during the nine months ended June 30, 2000,
principally relating to net income of $2,353,000 and a decrease in vendor deposits,
prepaid expenses and other current assets of $204,000 offset by an increase in accounts receivable of $724,000.

The Company`s investing activities used $350,000 for the purchase of fixed assets during the nine month period ended June 30, 2000.
Financing activities used net cash of $415,000 during the same period.
The funds were principally used to pay off a long term debt obligation.

As of June 30, 2000, the Company had net working capital of $7,498,000, compared to $5,449,000 at September 30, 1999.
The Company`s balance sheet as of June 30, 2000 reflected a current ratio of 5.4 to 1.


Erik

[Bavario]

Hallo zusammen, ich bin neu hier auf dem Board, verfolge aber mit Interesse die Diskussionen zu ADSX. Nach Bekanntgabe des Präsentationstermins zum Digital Angel habe ich mich entschlossen, einige Stücke von ADSX zu kaufen. Ich habe mich dabei von dem m.E. enormen Umsatzvolumen, das in DA stecken könnte, motivieren lassen. Umso erstaunter bin ich nun, daß seit dem 30.10. keine nennenswerten Infos zu DA publik gemacht werden noch irgendeine Empfehlung eines Brokerhauses veröffentlicht wurde. Ich bin nach wie vor von DA begeistert, frage mich aber, warum die Muttergesellschaft nichts tut, um den Kursverfall zu stoppen. M.E. kann es dafür nur 2 Gründe geben:
1. es laufen Verhandlungen mit potenziellen Kunden/Investoren, die aber noch in einem so frühen Stadium sind, daß eine Veröffentlichung zum heutigen Zeitpunkt unseriös wurde. Hinzu kommt das aktuelle Börsenumfeld, in dem gute Nachrichten einfach untergehen.
2. Die DA-Technologie ist noch weit davon entfernt, die Marktreife zu erlangen. Genau das könnte der Eindruck auf der Präsentation gewesen sein, den Investoren bekommen haben und deshalb ein Engagement zum heutigen Zeitpunkt ausschließen, da man zunächst die weiteren Entwicklungsstufen abwarten will.

In diesem Zusammenhang: Was ist die Meinung von Wirtschaftsminister Mineta wert, wenn seine Behörde, unter einen neuem U.S.-Präsidenten eine neue Führung erhält?

[erik der große]

Der ganze Markt ist zur Zeit zum Kotzen!
Wielange soll das denn noch weiter gehen.
Meine Liste ist ganz schön rot, nicht nur ADSX.

Daß seit einer Woche keine News mehr kommen, außer die poplige News vom Freitag, könnte doch daran liegen,
daß vor Veröffentlichung von Quartalszahlen keine herausgegeben werden dürfen.
Oder habe ich das falsch in Erinnerung?
Bitte, wer da Ahnung hat, solls mal posten.
Ich glaube im Moment hat es überhaupt keinen Sinn, sich über die fundamentalen Dinge zu unterhalten.
Im Moment wird auch alles, aber wirklich alles zu Boden gerissen.

Zu ADSX ist noch zu sagen, daß ich hoffe, daß die Zahlen, die bestimmt erst nach Börsenschluß bekanntgegeben werden,
nicht ganz so beschissen ausfallen, sonst....

Bitte mal ein Posting zu "News vor Quartalszahlen", wenns einer wissen tut.


Erik,
mit einem Teil vieler ADSX langfristig noch dabei,
Kursfristig ist ja das eingetreten, was ich vor Wochen schon gesagt habe.
Denkt daran, ADSX ist sowieso keine "normale" Aktie. Die Vergangenheit hats gezeigt.

Wer neu zu ADSX gekommen ist, mich würde es interessieren, wie ihr auf ADSX gekommen seit.

Jungs, heute Abend treffen wir uns hier im Bord, heulen wegen unseren Aktien und so,
wir Aktionäre müssen zusammen halten, is ja doch so schön.

[janigmbh]

Nach SEC Bilanzrichtlinien können Umsätze übernommener Unternehmen erst mit eingerechnet werden, wenn die Übernahmen durch Zustimmung beider Aktionärsgruppen formell bestätigt sind. Ob das auf alle u.a. Unternehmen zutrifft, kann ich jetzt aus dem Stehgreif nicht sagen.
Ansonsten natürlich alles Scheiße ( ich hoffe, ich darf das mal so sagen, ist sonst nicht mein Stil )but what will you do ??

Im Moment sind alle noch so super News wie "Perlen vor die Säue geschmissen ", insofern ist es gut, wenn sie nichts berichten.

Aber warten wir auch erstmal heute den Schluß ab, wohlmöglich sehen wir noch einen Rebound; wäre ja nicht das erstemal.

Die Zahlen kommen wahrscheinlich nachbörslich, ist aber auch egal. Bei 1$ kauf ich nach, hab ich ja schon öfter gesagt; und dann gleich nochmal 10000 Stück.

Ich hoffe, Eure anderen Geschäfte laufen dafür gut ( nicht Aktien )

Kopf hoch und Ohren steif halten.

Grüße Jani

[OesiStockpicker]

AMEN! Möge Gott uns helfen, ein anderer wird`s eh nicht können.

Spaß beiseite....., kurzfristig absolut zum KOTZEN
langfristig ...... was solls?

bis später...., werde mich heute auch schlau machen

war am wochenende ziemlich krank, fieber etc., heute bin ich schon wieder fieberfrei, und was muss ich sehen:
das ganze Depot ausser I:FAO!!!!!(ich glaub`s gar nicht) und Pankl!!!!!!! im Minus, sogar mein Favorit AT&S;
da sind mir doch wochenendtage mit fieber viel lieber.........

[Kappo]

Ich glaub ich bin nicht mehr zu retten......... ich hab
heute wieder Applied eingekauft.

[erik der große]

Ich habe nichts mehr zum Nachkaufen!
Bin echt gespannt auf die Zahlen.

Erik

[janigmbh]

Wenn die Zahlen extrem schlecht sein sollten, könnte es nachbörslich zu einem Sell off bei ADSX kommen. Auf Grund des hohen Minus von z.Z. 7,78 % - entgegen einem gerade nur noch mit 20 Punkten im Minus stehenden Nasdaq - könnte es immerhin sein, daß einige Insider mal wieder mehr wissen als wir und bereits vorsichtshalber verkaufen. Wir könnten uns dann tatsächlich einem Kurs nähern, der im Schneeballsystem weitere Leute zum endgültigen Ausstieg und Schlußstrich unter diese Aktie bringen könnte, was dann über kurz oder lang tatsächlich einen Dollar bedeuten könnte.
Da ich meinen Einsatz im sogenannten Innenverhältnis eh schon seit einigen Wochen " abgeschrieben " habe, würde mich das psychologisch nicht mehr ganz so hart treffen. Es stellt sich dann allerdings die Frage, ob es wirklich Sinn macht, nochmal $ 10000 hinterher zu schmeißen für 10000 Stück oder ob man es dann dabei beläßt.
Verschmerzen könnte ich die auch noch, aber in den Gully will ich es auch nicht unbedingt schmeißen.
Wir sind von oben gerechnet nur noch ca. 60% Kursverlust von diesem besagten Dollar entfernt. Das ist nicht mehr unbedingt soviel, wenn man bedenkt, wie andere Papiere bei sehr schlechten Zahlen abgestraft werden.

Ich will den Teufel ja nicht an die Wand malen, aber fast 8 % Minus ohne News bei einem derartigen Nasdaq Rebound wie heute ist viel Zeug.

Bis nachher

Grüße Jani

[erik der große]

Aber wenn da einige Leute was wüßten, wäre dann der Umsatz nicht höher.

Scheißeeeee.

Erik

[erik der große]

2,5$!!!!!!!!!!


Jetzt noch schlechte Zahlen und wir sehen heute noch die 2$.

Erik

[erik der große]

Anstieg der Institutionellen Anleger!

Quelle:
http://www.nasdaq.com/asp/holdings.asp?symbol=ADSX`&selected…


Anzahl der Institutionellen ist auf 43 gestiegen.
Aktienanzahl auf 8,71% gestiegen, von 7,29%.

Warum kaufen die immernoch zu?????????????????


Erik

[janigmbh]

http://www.earningswhispers.com/stocks.asp?Symbol=adsx

Wo bleiben die Earnings ??

Jani

[erik der große]

das würde ich auch gerne mal erfahren!

Ich finde auch nirgends noch einen Hinweis darauf, daß heute die Zahlen kommen.
Seltsam.

Erik

[janigmbh]

Vielleicht hat sie ja der Mut verlassen.....!

Jani

[Brainstorm01]

Hallo,

die Zahlen werden doch erst am 15.11 bekanntgegeben.

Gruß

Brainy

[erik der große]

Die Amis scheinen auch nichts zu wissen.
In der Vergangenheit kamen die Zahlen immer kurz nach Börsenschluß.
Einen Tag vor ADSX, kamen Zahlen von IntelleSale und Tigertel. Tigertel gibt es ja nicht mehr aber Sale.
So. Und nun. Nichts.

Erik

[Kappo]

Hier steht aber das es wohl HEUTE ist.

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[erik der große]

Hallo Kappo.

Wo bleiben denn die Scheiß Zahlen??????????

Erik