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Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 49.267.991 von IngChris am 07.03.15 10:58:01Ja, das ist in der Regel so, dass die Nachfrage nach Aktien, die in einen Index aufgenommen werden, steigt. Die Indexfonds, die den Dow abbilden, müssen dann AT&T verkaufen und entsprechend Apple kaufen.
Normalerweise fliegt etwas Kleineres raus und etwas Kleineres kommt rein. Jedenfalls bei den DAXen. Dann ist es annähernd ein Austausch. Da die Indexfonds meist noch gewichten nach Größe, könnten bei Apple auch die anderen DOW-Mitglieder etwas Druck bekommen. Wir hatten so etwas, als das Schwergewicht Telekom in den DAX kam.
Es gibt manchmal Ausgleichsmaßnahmen, um keinen Engpass an Aktien zu bekommen. Zum Beispiel KE nur für Insties. Apple dürfte genügend Aktien zurückgekauft haben, um auch so einen Ausgleich herstellen zu können.
Das kann ich jetzt auf die Schnelle nicht belegen, weil diese Ereignisse schon länger zurückliegen. Es geht nur darum, dass inzwischen eine Art Kurspflege getrieben wird. Bei Börsengängen wird das auch versucht.
Also, es muss nicht sein, dass der Applekurs sofort anzieht. Bei der letzten Aktie, wo ich das mitgemacht habe, stieg der Kurs nicht sogleich, sondern erst ca 1,5 Monate später.
Normalerweise fliegt etwas Kleineres raus und etwas Kleineres kommt rein. Jedenfalls bei den DAXen. Dann ist es annähernd ein Austausch. Da die Indexfonds meist noch gewichten nach Größe, könnten bei Apple auch die anderen DOW-Mitglieder etwas Druck bekommen. Wir hatten so etwas, als das Schwergewicht Telekom in den DAX kam.
Es gibt manchmal Ausgleichsmaßnahmen, um keinen Engpass an Aktien zu bekommen. Zum Beispiel KE nur für Insties. Apple dürfte genügend Aktien zurückgekauft haben, um auch so einen Ausgleich herstellen zu können.
Das kann ich jetzt auf die Schnelle nicht belegen, weil diese Ereignisse schon länger zurückliegen. Es geht nur darum, dass inzwischen eine Art Kurspflege getrieben wird. Bei Börsengängen wird das auch versucht.
Also, es muss nicht sein, dass der Applekurs sofort anzieht. Bei der letzten Aktie, wo ich das mitgemacht habe, stieg der Kurs nicht sogleich, sondern erst ca 1,5 Monate später.
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 49.266.935 von auriga am 07.03.15 01:17:37D.h. also .....ab 19.3 geht´s nochmal ca. 3 Wo. aufwärts, sofern sich diese Theorie bestätigen sollte .....
Das sind ja gute Aussichten ....
- am Mo (9.3.) ein Event-Bonus Richtung USD 130.-/135.-
- ab 19.3 der Dow-Bonus .....
................................wir werden ja sehen .....
Schönes Wochenende.
Das sind ja gute Aussichten ....
- am Mo (9.3.) ein Event-Bonus Richtung USD 130.-/135.-
- ab 19.3 der Dow-Bonus .....
................................wir werden ja sehen .....
Schönes Wochenende.
What Apple’s Dow addition will do to its stock
Published: Mar 6, 2015 1:14 p.m. ET
Data suggest only brief rally for Apple’s stock after Dow addition
Clarification: An earlier version of this report implied Intel’s stock hit its tech-boom-era peak in 1999. It peaked on Sept. 1, 2000.
NEW YORK (MarketWatch) — Apple Inc. is finally being added to the Dow Jones Industrial Average, we learned early Friday, after years of speculation. But, for investors, the excitement may be fleeting.
Historical data show share prices only briefly rally on the announcement that a company is being added to the exclusive, 30-member index.
In fact, there is a “clear pattern” of good performance leading up to an addition, then “bad performance following,” said Jason Goepfert, president of Sundial Capital Research, who analyzed stock-price trends of the last 20 DJIA additions during the 20 days before their addition and 20 days after. Of course, some of the declines may be due to mean reversion.
Shares of Apple rose 0.7% to $127.26 in high-volume trade after the announcement on Friday morning.
Sundial Capital Research
Bernstein Research analyst Toni Sacconaghi said companies added to the Dow outperform the S&P 500 by 3% in the 30 days after the announcement of their inclusion. With Dow Jones Indexes typically announcing the change one to three weeks before a company is actually added, Sacconaghi said this may indicate “incremental demand for shares” immediately after the initial announcement.
Apple’s AAPL, +0.33% seven-for-one stock split last June opened the door to the stock’s inclusion in the Dow DJIA, -1.54% and put it in line with virtually all of the DJIA eligibility criteria, which includes demonstrating “sustained growth,” being of interest to a large number of investors, and being a large-cap stock priced similarly to the other Dow 30 components in the price-weighted index. Its inclusion follows a four-for-one stock split at Visa, which brought down the collective average of the price-weighted DJIA, thus sparking a need for a pricier stock, according to an announcement by the S&P Dow Jones Indices Index Committee.
See: The stock splits that paved the way to Apple’s joining the Dow
Apple is the biggest company in the U.S., with a $736 billion market cap, but its share price as of this writing was just $128, which would make it only the sixth most expensive stock in the Dow 30 behind Visa Inc. V, +0.52% Goldman Sachs GS, -1.67% IBM Corp. IBM, +0.01% 3M Co. MMM, -1.92% and Boeing Co. BA, -0.10% — though Apple’s stock trades at a 272% premium to AT&T’s stock T, +0.30% , which it is replacing.
Apple gives the Dow its first taste of next-generation tech, which has been glaringly absent from the index even as companies like Facebook Inc. FB, -0.04% Google Inc. GOOGL, +0.06% Amazon Inc. AMZN, +0.06% and Apple pioneered massive innovation in mobile communication, e-commerce and social media. Those four companies have a collective market cap of roughly $1.53 trillion, which equates to roughly 30% of the entire Dow Jones Industrial Average — though only Apple and Facebook have share prices in line with the DJIA’s historical weighting standards.
Even Intel Corp. INTC, +0.03% and Cisco Systems Inc CSCO, +0.16% were added at a time when PC penetration was less than smartphone and tablet penetration is today. In fact, some might argue that the last major tech-sector nod from the Dow came in 1999 when both Intel and Microsoft Corp. MSFT, +0.12% were added in the same month. Apple will replace AT&T Inc., whose stock as of Thursday close was priced at $34, giving the mobile carrier a $176.5 billion market cap.
See: AT&T’s stock could beat Apple’s now that it’s out of the Dow
If Apple had been added in 2014, as some had expected, its performance would have ranked second among both tech stocks and all 30 Dow components, behind Intel. IBM, on the other hand, fell 18%, making it not only the worst tech-sector performer in the Dow 30 in 2014 but also the index’s worst stock overall. AT&T shares are up 5% over the last 12 months.
Interestingly, Intel and Microsoft saw brief stock-price rallies after their respective additions, but both tanked shortly after in the dot-com crash. Neither has returned to its heights of 1999-2000.
Don’t miss: The Nasdaq that hit 5,000 in the year 2000 was a very different stock index than the one that hit 5,000 this week
A version of this story was published on Dec. 26, 2014.
Also read:
This proves Apple is the stock retail investors love most
How Apple stock can easily hit $1 trillion by market cap by 2017
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/will-2015-be-apples-blue-ch…
By JENNIFER BOOTON REPORTER
Jennifer Booton is a MarketWatch reporter based in New York. You can follow her on Twitter @jbooton.
Published: Mar 6, 2015 1:14 p.m. ET
Data suggest only brief rally for Apple’s stock after Dow addition
Clarification: An earlier version of this report implied Intel’s stock hit its tech-boom-era peak in 1999. It peaked on Sept. 1, 2000.
NEW YORK (MarketWatch) — Apple Inc. is finally being added to the Dow Jones Industrial Average, we learned early Friday, after years of speculation. But, for investors, the excitement may be fleeting.
Historical data show share prices only briefly rally on the announcement that a company is being added to the exclusive, 30-member index.
In fact, there is a “clear pattern” of good performance leading up to an addition, then “bad performance following,” said Jason Goepfert, president of Sundial Capital Research, who analyzed stock-price trends of the last 20 DJIA additions during the 20 days before their addition and 20 days after. Of course, some of the declines may be due to mean reversion.
Shares of Apple rose 0.7% to $127.26 in high-volume trade after the announcement on Friday morning.
Sundial Capital Research
Bernstein Research analyst Toni Sacconaghi said companies added to the Dow outperform the S&P 500 by 3% in the 30 days after the announcement of their inclusion. With Dow Jones Indexes typically announcing the change one to three weeks before a company is actually added, Sacconaghi said this may indicate “incremental demand for shares” immediately after the initial announcement.
Apple’s AAPL, +0.33% seven-for-one stock split last June opened the door to the stock’s inclusion in the Dow DJIA, -1.54% and put it in line with virtually all of the DJIA eligibility criteria, which includes demonstrating “sustained growth,” being of interest to a large number of investors, and being a large-cap stock priced similarly to the other Dow 30 components in the price-weighted index. Its inclusion follows a four-for-one stock split at Visa, which brought down the collective average of the price-weighted DJIA, thus sparking a need for a pricier stock, according to an announcement by the S&P Dow Jones Indices Index Committee.
See: The stock splits that paved the way to Apple’s joining the Dow
Apple is the biggest company in the U.S., with a $736 billion market cap, but its share price as of this writing was just $128, which would make it only the sixth most expensive stock in the Dow 30 behind Visa Inc. V, +0.52% Goldman Sachs GS, -1.67% IBM Corp. IBM, +0.01% 3M Co. MMM, -1.92% and Boeing Co. BA, -0.10% — though Apple’s stock trades at a 272% premium to AT&T’s stock T, +0.30% , which it is replacing.
Apple gives the Dow its first taste of next-generation tech, which has been glaringly absent from the index even as companies like Facebook Inc. FB, -0.04% Google Inc. GOOGL, +0.06% Amazon Inc. AMZN, +0.06% and Apple pioneered massive innovation in mobile communication, e-commerce and social media. Those four companies have a collective market cap of roughly $1.53 trillion, which equates to roughly 30% of the entire Dow Jones Industrial Average — though only Apple and Facebook have share prices in line with the DJIA’s historical weighting standards.
Even Intel Corp. INTC, +0.03% and Cisco Systems Inc CSCO, +0.16% were added at a time when PC penetration was less than smartphone and tablet penetration is today. In fact, some might argue that the last major tech-sector nod from the Dow came in 1999 when both Intel and Microsoft Corp. MSFT, +0.12% were added in the same month. Apple will replace AT&T Inc., whose stock as of Thursday close was priced at $34, giving the mobile carrier a $176.5 billion market cap.
See: AT&T’s stock could beat Apple’s now that it’s out of the Dow
If Apple had been added in 2014, as some had expected, its performance would have ranked second among both tech stocks and all 30 Dow components, behind Intel. IBM, on the other hand, fell 18%, making it not only the worst tech-sector performer in the Dow 30 in 2014 but also the index’s worst stock overall. AT&T shares are up 5% over the last 12 months.
Interestingly, Intel and Microsoft saw brief stock-price rallies after their respective additions, but both tanked shortly after in the dot-com crash. Neither has returned to its heights of 1999-2000.
Don’t miss: The Nasdaq that hit 5,000 in the year 2000 was a very different stock index than the one that hit 5,000 this week
A version of this story was published on Dec. 26, 2014.
Also read:
This proves Apple is the stock retail investors love most
How Apple stock can easily hit $1 trillion by market cap by 2017
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/will-2015-be-apples-blue-ch…
By JENNIFER BOOTON REPORTER
Jennifer Booton is a MarketWatch reporter based in New York. You can follow her on Twitter @jbooton.
Fri, Mar 6, 2015, 6:56pm EST - US Markets are closed
How the Dow Jones industrial average works
As Apple joins Dow Jones industrial average, here's a closer look at a famous market barometer
Associated Press By The Associated Press
1 hour ago
Apple will be joining the Dow Jones industrial average, an elite club of 30 major U.S. companies, on March 19, replacing AT&T. Here's a look at the famous barometer of the U.S. stock market and how it works.
Q: Why is Apple being added to the Dow Jones industrial average?
A: S&P Dow Jones indices, which administers the Dow and other stock market indicators, said the change was prompted by a four-to-one stock split for Visa, which would greatly reduce the representation of technology companies in the index. Adding Apple would help offset that. The big reduction in Visa's stock price that will be caused by the split will result in Visa having a much smaller effect on the Dow's movements.
Q: What is the Dow Jones industrial average?
A: The Dow Jones industrial average is a popular gauge of the health of the stock market. It was created in 1896 by Charles H. Dow, one of the founders of The Wall Street Journal, with the intention of giving the stock market credibility and making investing more understandable. The original index had 12 members. The number of companies making up the Dow gradually increased to 30 by 1928.
The index includes some of the biggest household names: Microsoft, American Express, Wal-Mart and General Electric, which has been in the index since 1907.
Q: How does the Dow work?
A: The Dow is a price-weighted index, which means it's calculated based on movements in the price of every company's stock in the index, irrespective of how large the company's value is. So, every change of $1 in any of the 30 stocks in the index results in the same amount of point change in the index, currently around 6.42. That number will change slightly when Apple is added and AT&T comes out.
Q: How do stock prices affect the Dow?
A: After Apple enters the Dow after the close of trading on March 18 and Visa splits its stock, Goldman Sachs, which was trading at about $186 a share on Friday, will likely be the most expensive stock in the index, while Intel will be one of the cheapest. Intel was trading at about $33 a share on Friday. It's a lot easier for Goldman Sachs to move $1 a share, which represents a change of just 0.5 percent, versus Intel, where a $1 move represents 3 percent. Notwithstanding that difference, a $1 move in either Goldman Sachs or Intel will move the Dow by the same amount, 6.42 points, even though Intel is worth about double what Goldman Sachs is.
Q: What about other indexes?
A: Professional investors tend to more closely follow the Standard & Poor's 500 index, which not only tracks far more companies, 500 versus 30 for the Dow, but also takes into account the size of a company's market value in determining how much sway that stock has over the index.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/dow-jones-industrial-average-w…
How the Dow Jones industrial average works
As Apple joins Dow Jones industrial average, here's a closer look at a famous market barometer
Associated Press By The Associated Press
1 hour ago
Apple will be joining the Dow Jones industrial average, an elite club of 30 major U.S. companies, on March 19, replacing AT&T. Here's a look at the famous barometer of the U.S. stock market and how it works.
Q: Why is Apple being added to the Dow Jones industrial average?
A: S&P Dow Jones indices, which administers the Dow and other stock market indicators, said the change was prompted by a four-to-one stock split for Visa, which would greatly reduce the representation of technology companies in the index. Adding Apple would help offset that. The big reduction in Visa's stock price that will be caused by the split will result in Visa having a much smaller effect on the Dow's movements.
Q: What is the Dow Jones industrial average?
A: The Dow Jones industrial average is a popular gauge of the health of the stock market. It was created in 1896 by Charles H. Dow, one of the founders of The Wall Street Journal, with the intention of giving the stock market credibility and making investing more understandable. The original index had 12 members. The number of companies making up the Dow gradually increased to 30 by 1928.
The index includes some of the biggest household names: Microsoft, American Express, Wal-Mart and General Electric, which has been in the index since 1907.
Q: How does the Dow work?
A: The Dow is a price-weighted index, which means it's calculated based on movements in the price of every company's stock in the index, irrespective of how large the company's value is. So, every change of $1 in any of the 30 stocks in the index results in the same amount of point change in the index, currently around 6.42. That number will change slightly when Apple is added and AT&T comes out.
Q: How do stock prices affect the Dow?
A: After Apple enters the Dow after the close of trading on March 18 and Visa splits its stock, Goldman Sachs, which was trading at about $186 a share on Friday, will likely be the most expensive stock in the index, while Intel will be one of the cheapest. Intel was trading at about $33 a share on Friday. It's a lot easier for Goldman Sachs to move $1 a share, which represents a change of just 0.5 percent, versus Intel, where a $1 move represents 3 percent. Notwithstanding that difference, a $1 move in either Goldman Sachs or Intel will move the Dow by the same amount, 6.42 points, even though Intel is worth about double what Goldman Sachs is.
Q: What about other indexes?
A: Professional investors tend to more closely follow the Standard & Poor's 500 index, which not only tracks far more companies, 500 versus 30 for the Dow, but also takes into account the size of a company's market value in determining how much sway that stock has over the index.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/dow-jones-industrial-average-w…
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 49.266.866 von IngChris am 07.03.15 00:39:29Soll auch gleich in D kommen. Ja, ein oberes Ziel wäre natürlich netter...völlig offen....teste doch mal Stuttgart...hab den Booton-Artikel gefunden und noch einen interessanten über DOW.Stelle ich noch ein.
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Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 49.266.857 von auriga am 07.03.15 00:36:20Na gut - dann nehmen wir die USD 133+ 
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 49.266.854 von IngChris am 07.03.15 00:31:52Werde mal drüber nachdenken - vielleicht kaufe ich ja Mo vor 18.00 noch zu 
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............kann mir gut vorstellen, dass uns Aktionären gefällt was Apple da so vorstellt .....
............und dann gibt´s hoffentlich gleich eine Pre-Order Möglichkeit ....
..................kann mir gut vorstellen, dass uns Aktionären gefällt was Apple da so vorstellt .....
............und dann gibt´s hoffentlich gleich eine Pre-Order Möglichkeit ....
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 49.254.761 von Red Shoes (†) am 05.03.15 22:51:32
Dieses habe ich gemeint. Nicht LOEWE hier gemeint.
Zitat von Red Shoes:Zitat von Red Shoes: Die letzte Einschätzung vom 14.02.15 war definitiv falsch. Die Aktie ist deutlich übers Ziel hinausgeschossen - trotz aller kritischen Signale. Der Hanging Man wurde zu einem klassischen bärischen Fehlsignal.
Der Ausblick
An der gesamten Gemengelage hat sich nicht viel verändert. Ich muß deshalb konsequenterweise davon ausgehen, daß die Aktie demnächst korrigieren wird.
Die Frage ist nur, ab welchem Niveau?
Ich versuche, mich heranzutasten. Bei ca. 133,36 Dollar läge schon die nächste Zielmarke, die sich sich modelltheoretisch ableiten läßt.
Da war die Aktie gestern schon ganz nah dran. Warten wir dieses Mal einfach mal ab, ob dann etwas und was eventuell Neues passieren wird.
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Mein nächstes unteres Etappenziel liegt bei ca. 122,11 Dollar.
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Dieses habe ich gemeint. Nicht LOEWE hier gemeint.
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 49.266.848 von auriga am 07.03.15 00:28:09Welches ? .... habe etwas den Überblick verloren ....
Nachbörslich bereits wieder auf USD 127.- ........wenn das mal kein gutes Zeichen ist ....
Nachbörslich bereits wieder auf USD 127.- ........wenn das mal kein gutes Zeichen ist ....
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 49.266.848 von auriga am 07.03.15 00:28:09Also ich meinte jetzt auf das event...aber ist natürlich auch insgesamt zu sehen, Gesamtmarkt, DOW, newsflow etc..
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