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Zitat von Wickinger66: Ich geh trotzdem bereits jetzt davon aus das das Lumia 900 mehr oder weniger ein Flop ist.
Da ich mit wenig Mühe gesehen habe das man es noch locker mit einer Lieferzeit von 1-2 Tagen in den USA bestellen kann.
Und die Ausverkauftmeldungen scheinen bei Nokia immer dann zu kommen wenn es in den Listen bergab geht
Das Lumia 800 war doch auch ab und zu mal ausverkauft. Die harten Zahlen belegten dann aber das es ein Flop ist. Entweder ist das eine Marketingmasche oder die beherrschen die Lieferkette nicht...
hm wo finde ich das weisse?
Ich geh trotzdem bereits jetzt davon aus das das Lumia 900 mehr oder weniger ein Flop ist.
Da ich mit wenig Mühe gesehen habe das man es noch locker mit einer Lieferzeit von 1-2 Tagen in den USA bestellen kann.
Und die Ausverkauftmeldungen scheinen bei Nokia immer dann zu kommen wenn es in den Listen bergab geht
Da ich mit wenig Mühe gesehen habe das man es noch locker mit einer Lieferzeit von 1-2 Tagen in den USA bestellen kann.
Und die Ausverkauftmeldungen scheinen bei Nokia immer dann zu kommen wenn es in den Listen bergab geht
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 43.082.222 von Wickinger66 am 24.04.12 18:44:59jip
http://www.n-tv.de/technik/iPhone-4S-staendig-ausverkauft-ar…
http://www.focus.de/digital/handy/iphone/apple-handy-iphone-…
http://www.areamobile.de/news/9534-iphone-3g-ausverkauft-sch…
http://www.n-tv.de/technik/iPhone-4S-staendig-ausverkauft-ar…
http://www.focus.de/digital/handy/iphone/apple-handy-iphone-…
http://www.areamobile.de/news/9534-iphone-3g-ausverkauft-sch…
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 43.082.197 von Wickinger66 am 24.04.12 18:39:19Noch was:
Man kann die Ausverkauftmeldung des Lumia 900 auch als Managmentfehler ansehen.
Es gab vermutlich Nokia Phones die einen größeren Initialpeek hatten. Da gab es nie ne Ausverkauftmeldung.
Daher gehe ich stark davon aus das das Lumia 900 auch ein Flop ist
Man kann die Ausverkauftmeldung des Lumia 900 auch als Managmentfehler ansehen.
Es gab vermutlich Nokia Phones die einen größeren Initialpeek hatten. Da gab es nie ne Ausverkauftmeldung.
Daher gehe ich stark davon aus das das Lumia 900 auch ein Flop ist
dividende oder keine dividende. ich sehe es wie der autor. man kann in besseren jahren die aktionäre wieder belohnen. das meiste geld geht doch eh an die institutionellen funds.
Nokia Should Probably Stop Paying Dividends For Now
April 24, 2012 | 7 comments | about: NOK
I love dividends, and it hurts to say this as an investor of Nokia (NOK); however, I believe that Nokia should stop issuing dividends for a while. I know, this would turn off a lot of dividend investors and drive the share price even lower than it is right now, but this is crucial for the company's survival. At a time when the company is running through its cash, it shouldn't throw away its existing money this way.
Nokia's debt rating was recently reduced to Baa3 by Moody's. This is just one step above debt rating of Greece, also known as "junk" level. This will make it really difficult and expensive for Nokia to borrow more money to run its operations. This means that it is crucial for Nokia to hold onto any money it currently has. The company current has long-term interest-bearing liabilities totaling $5.11 billion. Also, the company's deferred tax liabilities sum up to $1 billion. The company's short-term liabilities are $860 million. If the company was currently profitable, these numbers wouldn't look too dangerous; however they look very threatening as the company is losing money.
In 2011, the company's operating loss was $1.45 billion, while its dividend payments totaled $979 million. Obviously if it wasn't for the large chunk of dividend payment, the company would have been in better financial shape right now.
Would it make some investors angry if Nokia announced that it won't pay dividends for a couple years? The answer is probably yes. However, as an investor, if Nokia goes bankrupt, I will lose all my investment in the company. I would rather lose on 5-6% dividend payment (which gets deducted from the share price and gets taxed anyways) than lose my entire principle investment in this company. Of course, I am not saying that canceling dividends for a couple years alone will save the company from bankruptcy, but it can buy the company a significant amount of time to get its act together. Right now Nokia is fighting against time, and time is running out.
On a side note, I don't think Finnish government will let Nokia go down without a fight. As Europe is divided into 2 parts (i.e. the "fiscally responsible north" vs. "fiscally woeful south"), having its largest corporation go bankrupt would result in a huge blow to Finland. The country is small enough to face a recession in case Nokia goes bankrupt, as the company represents nearly 2% of Finland's GDP and nearly 20% of the country's exports.
Conclusion
I do not recommend buying Nokia at the moment, due to huge uncertainties surrounding the company. However, I don't recommend selling it either, because this will result in a loss for 99% of the company's investors, as the company is currently experiencing its 15-year low share price. Holders of Nokia may benefit from selling covered calls dated 2013 or 2014. The premium will at least make up for part of the loss as the company (I hope) recovers.
Nokia Should Probably Stop Paying Dividends For Now
April 24, 2012 | 7 comments | about: NOK
I love dividends, and it hurts to say this as an investor of Nokia (NOK); however, I believe that Nokia should stop issuing dividends for a while. I know, this would turn off a lot of dividend investors and drive the share price even lower than it is right now, but this is crucial for the company's survival. At a time when the company is running through its cash, it shouldn't throw away its existing money this way.
Nokia's debt rating was recently reduced to Baa3 by Moody's. This is just one step above debt rating of Greece, also known as "junk" level. This will make it really difficult and expensive for Nokia to borrow more money to run its operations. This means that it is crucial for Nokia to hold onto any money it currently has. The company current has long-term interest-bearing liabilities totaling $5.11 billion. Also, the company's deferred tax liabilities sum up to $1 billion. The company's short-term liabilities are $860 million. If the company was currently profitable, these numbers wouldn't look too dangerous; however they look very threatening as the company is losing money.
In 2011, the company's operating loss was $1.45 billion, while its dividend payments totaled $979 million. Obviously if it wasn't for the large chunk of dividend payment, the company would have been in better financial shape right now.
Would it make some investors angry if Nokia announced that it won't pay dividends for a couple years? The answer is probably yes. However, as an investor, if Nokia goes bankrupt, I will lose all my investment in the company. I would rather lose on 5-6% dividend payment (which gets deducted from the share price and gets taxed anyways) than lose my entire principle investment in this company. Of course, I am not saying that canceling dividends for a couple years alone will save the company from bankruptcy, but it can buy the company a significant amount of time to get its act together. Right now Nokia is fighting against time, and time is running out.
On a side note, I don't think Finnish government will let Nokia go down without a fight. As Europe is divided into 2 parts (i.e. the "fiscally responsible north" vs. "fiscally woeful south"), having its largest corporation go bankrupt would result in a huge blow to Finland. The country is small enough to face a recession in case Nokia goes bankrupt, as the company represents nearly 2% of Finland's GDP and nearly 20% of the country's exports.
Conclusion
I do not recommend buying Nokia at the moment, due to huge uncertainties surrounding the company. However, I don't recommend selling it either, because this will result in a loss for 99% of the company's investors, as the company is currently experiencing its 15-year low share price. Holders of Nokia may benefit from selling covered calls dated 2013 or 2014. The premium will at least make up for part of the loss as the company (I hope) recovers.
Hallo,
kann mir jemand sagen, wie hoch die Dividende für das GJ 2011 ist und wann diese zur Auszahlung kommt.
Danke im voraus!
sonnenwelt
kann mir jemand sagen, wie hoch die Dividende für das GJ 2011 ist und wann diese zur Auszahlung kommt.
Danke im voraus!
sonnenwelt
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 43.082.197 von Wickinger66 am 24.04.12 18:39:19Noch was:
Ich werte die Ausverkaufmeldung bereits wieder als Mißerfolgsmeldung des Lumia 900.
Wo ihr alles immer mit Apple vergleicht.
War das IPhone bei hohen Nachfrageschüben jemals ausverkauft?
Ich werte die Ausverkaufmeldung bereits wieder als Mißerfolgsmeldung des Lumia 900.
Wo ihr alles immer mit Apple vergleicht.
War das IPhone bei hohen Nachfrageschüben jemals ausverkauft?
Das Lumia 900 soll auch schon wieder ausverkauft sein.
Das soll vermutlich erklären warum das Lumia 900 in den Statistiken wieder fällt.
Das soll vermutlich erklären warum das Lumia 900 in den Statistiken wieder fällt.
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 43.082.080 von Doktortee am 24.04.12 18:16:00 meinte natürlich das Lumia 900 bei uns hier in D
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