GEELY AUTOMOBILE - jetzt hat es einer bemerkt (Seite 2460)

[MarcoGeely]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 41.371.443 von Sangonr1 am 15.04.11 07:09:44

theoretisch schon aber was ist der richtige Preis?? hast es ja gesehen es wird in die eine so wie in die andere richtung immer übertrieben... wenn es so einfach ist wären wir schon alle reich

[Sangonr1]

Zitat von Sangonr1:

Zitat von Orbitsound: Company Information

Value: Value is a measure of a stock's current worth. 0175.HK has a current Value of $4.19 per share. Therefore, it is undervalued compared to its Price of $3.29 per share. Value is computed from forecasted earnings per share, forecasted earnings growth, profitability, interest, and inflation rates. Value increases when earnings, earnings growth rate and profitability increase, and when interest and inflation rates decrease. VectorVest advocates the purchase of undervalued stocks. At some point in time, a stock's Price and Value always will converge.

Das heißt beim Wert von 37 Cent pro Aktie müßte man bei diesem Kurs die Aktie derzeit verkaufen. Sollte der Wert des Unternehmens zunehmen, steigt auch der intrinsische Wert und damit auch der Kurs bei dem man verkaufen sollte. Hätten wir nur 1 Milliarde Aktien
läge dieser Wert derzeit bei 37x7= 2,59 Euro und bei 500 Mio. Aktien bei 5,18 Euro.

[Sangonr1]

Zitat von Orbitsound: Company Information

Value: Value is a measure of a stock's current worth. 0175.HK has a current Value of $4.19 per share. Therefore, it is undervalued compared to its Price of $3.29 per share. Value is computed from forecasted earnings per share, forecasted earnings growth, profitability, interest, and inflation rates. Value increases when earnings, earnings growth rate and profitability increase, and when interest and inflation rates decrease. VectorVest advocates the purchase of undervalued stocks. At some point in time, a stock's Price and Value always will converge.

Sehr wertvoller und informativer Beitrag. Danke.
Da sind viele Punkte des Value Investing angesprochen, was ich mir zur Zeit selbst mühsam zusammensuche.
LG

[hauswand]

Zitat von Sangonr1:

Zitat von Beans01: ______________________________________________________________


Nichtsdestotrotz wird Geely seinen Weg gehen.-

_____________________________________

Na das beruhigt mich etwas.
LG

N'abend Sangonr1,

Gott sei Dank, dann bin ich aber auch beruhigt.

Gute Nacht
hauswand

[Orbitsound]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 41.370.207 von schlaechter am 14.04.11 20:10:35

Company Information

Business: Geely Automobile Holdings Limited, an investment holding company, operates as a specialty automotive and taxi services company. The company engages in the research, production, marketing, and sale of automobiles, automobile parts, and related components in the People’s Republic of China and internationally.
Capital Appreciation

Value: Value is a measure of a stock's current worth. 0175.HK has a current Value of $4.19 per share. Therefore, it is undervalued compared to its Price of $3.29 per share. Value is computed from forecasted earnings per share, forecasted earnings growth, profitability, interest, and inflation rates. Value increases when earnings, earnings growth rate and profitability increase, and when interest and inflation rates decrease. VectorVest advocates the purchase of undervalued stocks. At some point in time, a stock's Price and Value always will converge.

RV (Relative Value): RV is an indicator of long-term price appreciation potential. 0175.HK has an RV of 1.21, which is good on a scale of 0.00 to 2.00. This indicator is far superior to a simple comparison of Price and Value because it is computed from an analysis of projected price appreciation three years out, AAA Corporate Bond Rates, and risk. RV solves the riddle of whether it is preferable to buy High growth, High P/E stocks, or Low growth, Low P/E stocks. VectorVest favors the purchase of stocks with RV ratings above 1.00.


RS (Relative Safety): RS is an indicator of risk. 0175.HK has an RS rating of 0.93, which is fair on a scale of 0.00 to 2.00. RS is computed from an analysis of the consistency and predictability of a company's financial performance, debt to equity ratio, sales volume, business longevity, price volatility and other factors. A stock with an RS rating greater than 1.00 is safer and more predictable than the average stock in the VectorVest database. VectorVest favors the purchase of stocks of companies with consistent, predictable financial performance.

RT (Relative Timing): RT is a fast, smart, accurate indicator of a stock's price trend. 0175.HK has a Relative Timing rating of 1.17, which is good on a scale of 0.00 to 2.00. RT is computed from an analysis of the direction, magnitude, and dynamics of a stock's price movements over one day, one week, one quarter and one year time periods. Once a stock's price has established a strong trend, it is expected to continue in that trend for the short-term. If a trend dissipates, RT will gravitate toward 1.00. RT will explode from bottoms, dive from tops, and reflect changes in price momentum. VectorVest favors the purchase of stocks with RT ratings above 1.00.

VST (VST-Vector): VST is the master indicator for ranking every stock in the VectorVest database. 0175.HK has a VST rating of 1.11, which is good on a scale of 0.00 to 2.00. VST is computed from the square root of a weighted sum of the squares of RV, RS, and RT. Stocks with the highest VST ratings have the best combinations of Value, Safety and Timing. These are the stocks to own for above average, long-term capital appreciation. VectorVest advocates the purchase of safe, undervalued stocks rising in price.

Recommendation (REC): VectorVest gives a Buy, Sell, Hold recommendation on every stock, every day. 0175.HK has a Hold recommendation. REC reflects the cumulative effect of all the VectorVest parameters working together. These parameters are designed to help investors buy safe, undervalued stocks rising in price. They also help investors avoid or sell risky, overvalued stocks falling in price. VectorVest recommends that investors buy high VST-Vector, Buy-rated stocks in rising markets.
OR

Stop (Stop-Price): Stop is an indicator of when to sell a long position or cover a short position. 0175.HK has a Stop of $3.20 per share. This is $0.09 below below 0175.HK's current closing Price. A stock's Stop is computed from a 13 week moving average of its closing prices, and is fine-tuned according to the stock's fundamentals. High RV, high RS stocks have lower Stops, and low RV, low RS stocks have higher Stops. In the VectorVest system, a stock gets a 'B' or 'H' recommendation if its Price is above its Stop and an 'S' recommendation if its Price is below its Stop.

GRT (Earnings Growth Rate): GRT reflects a company's one to three year forecasted earnings growth rate in percent per year. 0175.HK has a forecasted Earnings Growth Rate of 15.00%, which VectorVest considers to be very good. GRT is computed from historical, current and forecasted earnings data. It is updated each week for every stock in the VectorVest database. GRT often foretells a stock's future price trend. If a stock's GRT trend is upward, the stock's price will likely rise. If GRT is trending downward, the stock's Price will probably fall. VectorVest favors the purchase of stocks whose GRT is rising and is greater than the sum of current inflation and interest rates, as shown weekly in our investment climate report.

EPS (Earnings per Share): EPS stands for leading 12 months Earnings Per Share. 0175.HK has a forecasted EPS of $0.29 per share. VectorVest determines this forecast from a combination of recent earnings performance and traditional fiscal and/or calendar year earnings forecasts.

P/E (Price to Earnings Ratio): P/E is a popular measure of stock valuation which shows the dollars required to buy one dollar of earnings. 0175.HK has a P/E of 11.34. This ratio may be deemed to be high or low depending upon your frame of reference. The average P/E of all the stocks in the VectorVest database is 8.24. P/E is computed daily using the formula: P/E = Price/EPS.

EY (Earnings Yield): EY reflects earnings per share as a percent of Price. EY is related to P/E via the formula, EY = 100 / (P/E), and may be used in place of P/E as a measure of valuation. EY has the advantages that it is always determinate and can reflect negative earnings. 0175.HK has an EY of 8.88 percent. This is below the current average of 12.17% for all the stocks in the VectorVest database. EY equals 100 x (EPS/Price).

GPE (Growth to P/E Ratio): GPE is another popular measure of stock valuation. It compares earnings growth rate to P/E ratio. 0175.HK has a GPE rating of 1.34. High growth stocks are believed to be able to justify high P/E ratios. A stock is commonly considered to be undervalued when GPE is greater than 1.00 and overvalued when GPE is below 1.00. Unfortunately, this rule of thumb does not take into account the effect of interest rates on P/E ratios. The operative GPE ratio of 1.00 is valid when and only when interest rates equal 10%. With long-term interest rates currently at 3.02%, the operative GPE ratio is 0.09. Therefore, 0175.HK may be considered to be undervalued.
Dividend Information

DIV (Dividend): VectorVest reports annual, regular, cash dividends as indicated by the most recent payments. Special distributions, one-time payments, stock dividends, etc., are not generally included in DIV. 0175.HK pays an annual dividend of 0.02 per share.

DY (Dividend Yield): DY reflects dividend per share as a percent of Price. 0175.HK has a Dividend Yield of 0.61 %. This is below the current average of 3.27% for all the stocks in the VectorVest database. DY equals 100 x (DIV/Price). It is useful to compare DY with EY. If DY is not significantly lower than EY, the dividend payment may be in jeopardy.

DS (Dividend Safety): DS is an indicator of the assurance that regular cash dividends will be declared and paid at current or at higher rates for the foreseeable future. 0175.HK has a Dividend Safety of 66 which is good on a scale of 0 to 99. Stocks with DS values above 75 typically have RS values well above 1.00 and EY levels that are much higher than DY.

DG (Dividend Growth Rate): Dividend Growth is a subtle yet important indicator of a company's financial performance. It also provides some insight into the board's outlook on the company's ability to increase earnings. 0175.HK has a Dividend Growth of 19% This is above the current average of 3.27% for all the stocks in the VectorVest database.

YSG (YSG-Vector): YSG is an indicator which combines DIV, DY and DG into a single value, and allows direct comparison of all dividend-paying stocks in the database. 0175.HK has a YSG rating of 1 which is fair. Stocks with the highest YSG values have the best combinations of Dividend Yield, Safety and Growth. These are the stocks to buy for about current income and long-term growth.
Price-Volume Data

Price: 0175.HK closed on Thursday, April 14, 2011 at $3.29 per share.

Open:0175.HK opened trading at a price of $3.30 per share on Thursday, April 14, 2011.

High: 0175.HK traded at a High price of $3.34 per share on Thursday, April 14, 2011.

Low: 0175.HK traded at a Low price of $3.23 per share on Thursday, April 14, 2011.

Close: 0175.HK closed on Thursday, April 14, 2011 at $3.29 per share. (Close is also called Price in the VectorVest system)

Range: Range reflects the difference between the High and Low prices for the day. 0175.HK traded with a range of $0.11 per share on Thursday, April 14, 2011.

$ Change: 0175.HK up 0.03 from the prior day's closing Price.

%PRC: 0175.HK's Price changed 0.92% from the prior day's closing price.

Volume: 0175.HK traded 66,857,860 shares on Thursday, April 14, 2011.

AvgVol: AvgVol is the 50 day moving average of daily volume as computed by VectorVest. 0175.HK has an AvgVol of 43,510,300 shares traded per day.

%Vol: %Vol reflects the percent change in today's trading volume as compared to the AvgVol. %Vol equals ((Volume - AvgVol) / AvgVol ) * 100. 0175.HK had a %Vol of 53.66% on Thursday, April 14, 2011

CI (Comfort Index): CI is an indicator which reflects a stock's ability to resist severe and/or lengthy price declines.0175.HK has a CI rating of 0.24, which is very poor on a scale of 0.00 to 2.00. CI is quite different from RS in that it is based solely upon a stock's long-term price history. VectorVest advocates the purchase of high CI stocks.
Sales / Market Capitalization Information

Sales: 0175.HK has annual sales of 23,888,000,000

Sales Growth: Sales Growth is the Sales Growth Rate in percent over the last 12 months. 0175.HK has a Sales Growth of 34.00% per year. This is excellent. Sales Growth is updated each week for every stock. It is often useful to compare Sales Growth to Earnings Growth to gain an insight into a company's operations.

Sales Per Share (SPS): 0175.HK has annual sales of $3.21 per share. SPS can be used as a measure of valuation when comparing stocks within an Industry Group.

Price to Sales Ratio (P/S): 0175.HK has a P/S of 1.02. This ratio is also used as a measure of valuation. Here, too, it is useful when comparing stocks within an Industry Group.

Shares: 0175.HK has 7,441,000,000 shares of stock outstanding.

Market Capitalization: 0175.HK has a Market Capitalization of 24,480,000,000. Market Capitalization is calculated by multiplying price times shares outstanding.

Business Sector: 0175.HK has been assigned to the Consumer Discretionary Business Sector. VectorVest classifies stocks into over 200 Industry Groups and 40 Business Sectors.

Industry Group: 0175.HK has been assigned to the Consumer Discr(Autos&Compnnts) Industry Group. VectorVest classifies stocks into over 200 Industry Groups and 40 Business Sectors.

[BriBumer]

und schon analysieren lassen?

überall wo ne mail verlangt wird binsch skeptisch

[schlaechter]

http://www.vectorvest.com/stockanalysis/stockanalysis.aspx?H….

[Sangonr1]

Zitat von Beans01: ______________________________

Hey, lieber Sango , ich habe diesen
Bericht nicht in diesen Thread gestellt;
sondern in "wuscher´s Thread".

Das geht schon aus diesen Worten hervor:

Zitat:
Ich stelle ihn rein, weil außer wuscher, Charly, h-mann und mir, eh fast
keiner mehr da ist, der sich darüber aufregt.

________________________________

Ich gebe dir natürlich insofern recht, dass beide Seiten - wie z.B. Kopp-Verlag - ganz ähnlich wie die Bild-Zeitung - von reißerischen und panikverbreitenden Nachrichten un plakativen Überschriften leben.
Ich möchte nicht wissen, wie viele Menschen damit in Angststörungen getrieben werden.

Fakt ist jedoch auch, dass nicht alles aus den Fingern gesogen ist.
Wir werden durch die Medien manipuliert und erfahren meist nur die Dinge,
die wir auch erfahren sollen.
________________________________
Ändern können wir nicht viel - nur diese Nachrichten versuchen zu filtern - und für sich
die Konsequenzen ziehen. Seine eigene Meinung bilden.

Und ich bin der festen Meinung, dass wir noch garnichts überstanden
haben - das dicke Ende kommt noch.

Warten wir doch einfach ab.
________________________________

Übrigens, ich wollte in diesem Thread nicht darüber schreien,
aber du hast es angesprochen und meine Post hier hineingesetzt.
_____________________________

Nichtsdestotrotz wird Geely seinen Weg gehen.-

_____________________________________

Na das beruhigt mich etwas.
LG

[Beans01]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 41.369.471 von Sangonr1 am 14.04.11 18:20:14

______________________________

Hey, lieber Sango , ich habe diesen
Bericht nicht in diesen Thread gestellt;
sondern in "wuscher´s Thread".

Das geht schon aus diesen Worten hervor:

Zitat:
Ich stelle ihn rein, weil außer wuscher, Charly, h-mann und mir, eh fast
keiner mehr da ist, der sich darüber aufregt.

________________________________

Ich gebe dir natürlich insofern recht, dass beide Seiten - wie z.B. Kopp-Verlag - ganz ähnlich wie die Bild-Zeitung - von reißerischen und panikverbreitenden Nachrichten un plakativen Überschriften leben.
Ich möchte nicht wissen, wie viele Menschen damit in Angststörungen getrieben werden.

Fakt ist jedoch auch, dass nicht alles aus den Fingern gesogen ist.
Wir werden durch die Medien manipuliert und erfahren meist nur die Dinge,
die wir auch erfahren sollen.
________________________________
Ändern können wir nicht viel - nur diese Nachrichten versuchen zu filtern - und für sich
die Konsequenzen ziehen. Seine eigene Meinung bilden.

Und ich bin der festen Meinung, dass wir noch garnichts überstanden
haben - das dicke Ende kommt noch.

Warten wir doch einfach ab.
________________________________

Übrigens, ich wollte in diesem Thread nicht darüber schreien,
aber du hast es angesprochen und meine Post hier hineingesetzt.
_____________________________

Nichtsdestotrotz wird Geely seinen Weg gehen.-

_____________________________________

[Sangonr1]

Zitat von Beans01: ____________________________________

Fundsache -- Fundsache

Achtung - dieser Bericht hat nur ganz indirekt mit
Geely zu tun.

Ich stelle ihn rein, weil außer wuscher, Charly, h-mann und mir, eh fast
keiner mehr da ist, der sich darüber aufregt.
Es geht hier um das Thema - Aktien und Verhalten im Hinblick auf die Zukunft.

___________________________________________

Quelle:http://walladoo-limited.com/news/sie-haben-maximal-drei-mona…" target="_blank" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">http://walladoo-limited.com/news/sie-haben-maximal-drei-mona…

Ubrigens eine recht gute Seite - ok manchmal etwas abgedreht - vertritt aber eine ähnliche Meinung, wie der Kopp-Verlag. Link zur Hauptseite: http://walladoo-limited.com/news/


Sie haben maximal drei Monate Zeit, bis es richtig unbequem werden kann

By Christoph | April 14, 2011

Sie haben etwas länger von mir nichts gehört, weil ich eigentlich immer wieder dasselbe sagen kann, nämlich:

Bereiten Sie sich auf schlechtere Zeiten vor!

_____________________________________________

Hallo Beans,

das habe ich gerade angelesen.
Ich kann nicht verstehen, wie ihr euch von solchen Gauklern faszinieren lassen könnt und es noch halbwegs glaubt. Die wollen euch doch nur in Panik versetzen und zwar zu ihrem eigenen Vorteil. Vor kurzem hattest Du ja auch jemanden präsentiert mit Homepage, der wohl sogar Scientologe ist.
Dann macht euch doch mal die Mühe und lest fundiertes Wissen und Literatur. Zum Beispiel ist Portugal nicht so bankrott wie es für den Laien scheint. Die mußten wegen der hohen Schuldzinslasten unter den Rettungsschirm.
Ein Beispiel für fundierte Literatur ist " Die unsichtbare Hand von Prof. Ulrich van Suntum (ehemals Wirtschaftsweiser)". Hier wird ökonomisches Denken und werden Zusammenhänge verständlich dargelegt. Es bringt einfach nichts auf dem Niveau von Lieschen Müller "Hetzpropaganda" wie z.B. aus dem Kopp-Verlag für bare Münze zu nehmen.
Dadurch wird es auch nicht wahrer, wenn mit Verschwörungstheorien versucht wird, es glaubhaft zu machen. Wenn man das dann wirklich glaubt, ist man tatsächlich der Dumme.
Also lieber selber denken und sich informieren lernen als denken lassen.
LG