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Hi, für alle, die online traden wichtiger Hinweis. Zertifikate bei Netscape und Internet Explorer erlöschen zum 31.12.99. Lest selbst:
Posted at 8:52 p.m. PST Tuesday, December 28, 1999
Millions must upgrade browser
But don`t blame Y2K: `Digital certificates` set to expire Dec. 31
BY DEBORAH KONG
Mercury News Staff Writer
Millions of people using older versions of Netscape and Microsoft Web browsers may not be able to access some personal finance and e-commerce sites starting Jan. 1.
It won`t be due to the dreaded Y2K bug. Instead, it`s because electronic credentials embedded in browsers are set to expire on Dec. 31 at midnight.
These ``digital certificates`` are built into individual browsers and issued by Mountain View-based VeriSign to about 150,000 commerce and finance sites. They`re used to ensure secure transactions by verifying that both the site and user are who they say they are.
The expiration of certificates could affect users of Netscape browser versions 4.05 and earlier, and Macintosh users who downloaded Microsoft`s Internet Explorer 4.5 and Outlook Express 5 before Dec. 21. To fix the problem, users need to download the latest versions of Netscape or Internet Explorer.
About 5 million to 10 million Netscape users will be affected, said Chris Saito, Netscape`s senior director of product marketing. About 2.1 million Macintosh users who have Microsoft`s Internet Explorer 4.5 will also be affected.
When those users visit any one of the 150,000 sites, they will receive a warning to upgrade their browser or be blocked from accessing the site until they upgrade their browser.
Microsoft, which is scrambling to notify users, said it won`t be able to guarantee that transactions conducted using the older browsers will be secure.
Beginning Jan. 1, Macintosh users with the older Internet Explorer browsers who try to access sites that use VeriSign`s certificates will receive a message that says `` `Unable to establish a secure connection . . . The information you view and send will be readable to others while in transit, and it may not go to the intended party. Continue loading this page?`
``We`re trying very hard to get the word out there. We`ve been working on it as fast as possible,`` said Irving Kwong, product manager for Microsoft`s Macintosh business unit. ``This is a gray area. We don`t want to come out and say people are totally secure because we can`t guarantee it.``
Microsoft discovered the problem about three weeks ago when it was doing Y2K testing, Kwong said.
For its part, Netscape is also urging users to upgrade their browsers, Saito of Netscape said.
George Wedding of Elk Grove encountered the problem last week when he tried to visit the Bank of America site to pay some bills. Wedding, a Macintosh user with an older version of the Internet Explorer browser, said he was routed to another Web page that told him he had to upgrade his browser.
``With all the advance notice that has been coming about Y2K, to see banking customers kind of ambushed by a problem like this at the last minute . . . I thought it was unusual and not very courteous of the bank to do that to its customers,`` he said.
Bank of America spokesman Richard Beebe said the bank has been encouraging customers to upgrade browsers for several months.
Wells Fargo began notifying customers with the older browsers in October via e-mail. Most have upgraded their browsers, but those who have not will not be allowed to do any online banking until they do so, a spokeswoman said.
Other sites are posting reminders. At Charles Schwab, users with the older browsers have been receiving a pop-up window that tells them they need to upgrade their browser since October. About 10 percent of the company`s online customers will be affected, said spokesman John Sommerfield.
Ben Golub, VeriSign`s director of Internet marketing and sales, said the Dec. 31 expiration date was chosen about five years ago because at the time browsers couldn`t accept dates beyond 1999.
``In retrospect, maybe we should have chosen December 15,`` he said. ``It`s just an unfortunate timing kind of thing
Posted at 8:52 p.m. PST Tuesday, December 28, 1999
Millions must upgrade browser
But don`t blame Y2K: `Digital certificates` set to expire Dec. 31
BY DEBORAH KONG
Mercury News Staff Writer
Millions of people using older versions of Netscape and Microsoft Web browsers may not be able to access some personal finance and e-commerce sites starting Jan. 1.
It won`t be due to the dreaded Y2K bug. Instead, it`s because electronic credentials embedded in browsers are set to expire on Dec. 31 at midnight.
These ``digital certificates`` are built into individual browsers and issued by Mountain View-based VeriSign to about 150,000 commerce and finance sites. They`re used to ensure secure transactions by verifying that both the site and user are who they say they are.
The expiration of certificates could affect users of Netscape browser versions 4.05 and earlier, and Macintosh users who downloaded Microsoft`s Internet Explorer 4.5 and Outlook Express 5 before Dec. 21. To fix the problem, users need to download the latest versions of Netscape or Internet Explorer.
About 5 million to 10 million Netscape users will be affected, said Chris Saito, Netscape`s senior director of product marketing. About 2.1 million Macintosh users who have Microsoft`s Internet Explorer 4.5 will also be affected.
When those users visit any one of the 150,000 sites, they will receive a warning to upgrade their browser or be blocked from accessing the site until they upgrade their browser.
Microsoft, which is scrambling to notify users, said it won`t be able to guarantee that transactions conducted using the older browsers will be secure.
Beginning Jan. 1, Macintosh users with the older Internet Explorer browsers who try to access sites that use VeriSign`s certificates will receive a message that says `` `Unable to establish a secure connection . . . The information you view and send will be readable to others while in transit, and it may not go to the intended party. Continue loading this page?`
``We`re trying very hard to get the word out there. We`ve been working on it as fast as possible,`` said Irving Kwong, product manager for Microsoft`s Macintosh business unit. ``This is a gray area. We don`t want to come out and say people are totally secure because we can`t guarantee it.``
Microsoft discovered the problem about three weeks ago when it was doing Y2K testing, Kwong said.
For its part, Netscape is also urging users to upgrade their browsers, Saito of Netscape said.
George Wedding of Elk Grove encountered the problem last week when he tried to visit the Bank of America site to pay some bills. Wedding, a Macintosh user with an older version of the Internet Explorer browser, said he was routed to another Web page that told him he had to upgrade his browser.
``With all the advance notice that has been coming about Y2K, to see banking customers kind of ambushed by a problem like this at the last minute . . . I thought it was unusual and not very courteous of the bank to do that to its customers,`` he said.
Bank of America spokesman Richard Beebe said the bank has been encouraging customers to upgrade browsers for several months.
Wells Fargo began notifying customers with the older browsers in October via e-mail. Most have upgraded their browsers, but those who have not will not be allowed to do any online banking until they do so, a spokeswoman said.
Other sites are posting reminders. At Charles Schwab, users with the older browsers have been receiving a pop-up window that tells them they need to upgrade their browser since October. About 10 percent of the company`s online customers will be affected, said spokesman John Sommerfield.
Ben Golub, VeriSign`s director of Internet marketing and sales, said the Dec. 31 expiration date was chosen about five years ago because at the time browsers couldn`t accept dates beyond 1999.
``In retrospect, maybe we should have chosen December 15,`` he said. ``It`s just an unfortunate timing kind of thing
german,und wie kann ich ein update durchführen.es wäre schrecklich wenn ich am 02.01. nicht handel könnte. da ich ja noch an diesen tag in urlaub fahre.muß ich mir sorgen machen????????????danke im vorausich hoffe dein hilfe-angebot steht noch?ich benutze den netscape 4.5/ i mac
Hi, DjW
ich denke, von der Netscape-Homepage den Link zum Download und die Maschine laufen lassen, dürfte bei 56k-Modem bei ca. 11 MB ne Stunde dauern und gibt vorerst nur die US-Version vermutlich. So ist es zumindest beim Internet Explorer, den ich auf meinem Mac benutze.
Okay so??
Danke für die TC, Matsushita Tip(p)s.
cu german
ich denke, von der Netscape-Homepage den Link zum Download und die Maschine laufen lassen, dürfte bei 56k-Modem bei ca. 11 MB ne Stunde dauern und gibt vorerst nur die US-Version vermutlich. So ist es zumindest beim Internet Explorer, den ich auf meinem Mac benutze.
Okay so??
Danke für die TC, Matsushita Tip(p)s.
cu german
NACHTRAG
Stimmt so, habe es mir auf der Netscape-Homepage www.netscape.com angeschaut. Steht dort links oben in ROT!! Evtl. geht Download morgens schneller - sind die Amis im Bett.
Ciao - german
Stimmt so, habe es mir auf der Netscape-Homepage www.netscape.com angeschaut. Steht dort links oben in ROT!! Evtl. geht Download morgens schneller - sind die Amis im Bett.
Ciao - german
Hi, DjW
... hat´s geklappt mit dem Update, evtl. gibt es auch nur einen Patch für die Us-Version vom Netscape Communicator.
cu - german
... hat´s geklappt mit dem Update, evtl. gibt es auch nur einen Patch für die Us-Version vom Netscape Communicator.
cu - german
Hi,
habt ihr Online-Trader alle schön eure Browser, egal ob Netscape oder Microsoft, upgedated ??
... wenn nicht, werden aufgrund der ablaufenden Sicherheitszertifikate ab 1.1.2000 Transaktionen teilweise unausführbar. Aber es gibt ja noch das gute, alte Telefon ...
Guten Rutsch - german
habt ihr Online-Trader alle schön eure Browser, egal ob Netscape oder Microsoft, upgedated ??
... wenn nicht, werden aufgrund der ablaufenden Sicherheitszertifikate ab 1.1.2000 Transaktionen teilweise unausführbar. Aber es gibt ja noch das gute, alte Telefon ...
Guten Rutsch - german
german, oben links wo die diskette angezeigt wird und download darunter steht?die 4.7 version herunterladen?dankedjw
Hi, DjW,
habe es mir noch mal bei netscape.com angesehen:
Update nur für Version 4.7 verfügbar. Entweder von einer neueren MacUp, MacWelt oder MacMagazin-CDRom kopieren und dann Update aus dem Internet dowloaden oder 4.7 Version downloaden und dann updaten.
Okay??
german
habe es mir noch mal bei netscape.com angesehen:
Update nur für Version 4.7 verfügbar. Entweder von einer neueren MacUp, MacWelt oder MacMagazin-CDRom kopieren und dann Update aus dem Internet dowloaden oder 4.7 Version downloaden und dann updaten.
Okay??
german
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