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      schrieb am 07.12.99 16:10:43
      Beitrag Nr. 1 ()
      wären jetzt nicht schlecht.
      wo ist all die euphorie von euch geblieben?
      mit jedem posting deckt jemand was neues auf.
      ich weiss echt nicht mehr: halten oder verkaufen?
      bei den ganzen vorwuerfen muesste der kurs doch
      runterrauschen wie nichts.
      glaubt ihr noch an was positiv kursbewegendes diese
      woche? warum hat phan seinen trip verschoben?
      oder soll ich den traum vergessen.
      alles nur erlogen, nachdem letzte woche noch alle
      bullish waren? wie ist die stimmung auf raging-bull?
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      schrieb am 07.12.99 16:29:38
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      aOnline - Industry News - Information Technology - Hartcourt Makes a Troubled Bid for China Infohighway
















      Hartcourt Makes a Troubled Bid for China Infohighway
      By Douglas C. McGill
      News Editor, ChinaOnline
      (5/12/99) The Hartcourt Companies Inc., a Los Angeles-based holding
      company that says it has agreed to buy 90% of a Chinese internet
      service provider worth US$80 million, is a shell company formed last
      year to "reap a short-term windfall" in "the stock market of a New
      World Order," the company’s chairman told his investors in a letter
      last week.
      "We must cast aside a lot of textbook principles and age-old
      experience in management to keep up with increasing demand from
      shareholders who are now used to the average gain of 300 percent on
      Internet stocks," the chairman, Dr. Alan V. Phan, wrote in the
      letter.
      On March 23, Hartcourt said it would buy a majority stake in China
      Infohighway, which was formed in Beijing in 1995 as one of China’s
      first private internet service providers. In Hartcourt’s written
      announcement of the deal, it said China Infohighway was "the
      exclusive commercial internet provider in China."
      That story, originally published on the PR Newswire, was picked up
      and reported in newspapers in China, Hong Kong and some business web
      sites, including ChinaOnline.
      On April 8, China Infohighway released a statement saying
      Hartcourt’s announcement was "just a rumor," and that "China
      Infohighway has never contacted Hartcourt about business
      opportunities and cooperation."
      In a telephone interview yesterday, Phan said Hartcourt and China
      Infohighway had signed a share purchase agreement last September
      that was still in effect. A recent change of management at China
      Infohighway, however, was not keen on the deal and so denied
      knowledge of it in their own statement, Phan said.
      Management Reshuffle
      In June 1998, three months before Phan said Hartcourt signed its
      deal with China Infohighway, Zhang Shuxin, the Chinese company’s
      president, resigned after quarrelling with others about the
      company’s focus and mission. In November, she was followed by 15
      other top executives including sales managers and regional office
      heads, who shared her vision and differed with the direction taken
      by new management.
      Since that time, there has been no report of change in the company’s
      top management.
      Hartcourt also said in its original announcement of the purchase
      that China Infohighway was worth US$80 million, based on an
      "independent evaluation," and that the company had 100,000
      subscribers who generated US$16 million in revenues in 1998.
      Last September, when the company underwent a reorganization, it had
      registered capital of RMB 80 million (US$10 million), according to
      its website. As of August, 1998, China Infohighway claimed to have
      more than 60,000 subscribers to its website nationwide, with 50,000
      using its e-mail services. It has never published its revenue
      figures, but the Diannao Bao (China Popular Computer Weekly), a
      Chinese computer newsmagazine, has said the company`s
      expense-to-revenues ratio fell from 9.2:1 in 1997 to 3.5:1 in 1998,
      and that the drop was due to falling expenses, not increasing
      revenues.
      Phan said yesterday the $16 million in revenues his company’s
      announcement cited for China Infohighway in 1988 came in part from
      other sources than the company’s internet operations, but he did not
      specify.
      "What’s Yahoo Worth?"
      As for Hartcourt’s claim that China Infohighway was "the exclusive
      commercial internet provider in China," Phan said yesterday he
      agreed the phrase was misleading.
      "It’s a goof and I admit my mistake in terms of not reading it
      carefully and deleting it out," he said. "It should have said the
      exclusive commercial internet provider in the 21 cities where it
      operates."
      Later in the telephone interview, however, Phan said that China
      Infohighway only has a license to operate in 21 cities, while
      actually operating in "15 or 16." In addition, he agreed that it
      might be possible that more than one internet service provider can
      provide commercial internet services in any given city. Indeed, in
      most of China’s big cities, many internet service providers compete
      with each other to provide internet connections to businesses.
      The company’s US$80 million valuation, Phan said, was determined by
      a Beijing accounting company named China Y.X. Properties Valuation
      Company. A fax copy of their assessment provided by Phan gave two
      values for the company. Its "assets value on the account,"
      representing the company’s tangible assets such as building and
      equipment, accounts receivable and inventory, totalled RMB
      163,630,000 (US$19,785,973).
      Its "assets evaluation value" was listed as RMB824,710,000
      (US$99,723,095) and reflected intangible assets such as licenses
      held, goodwill, and an internet premium.
      "Look at Yahoo," Phan said. "What’s Yahoo worth?"
      The share purchase contemplated in the agreement Phan says was
      signed last September called for the issuance of US$80 million in
      new shares of The Hartcourt Companies Inc., which would be used to
      buy an 85% share of China Infohighway.
      At the same time, US$40 million in cash provided by a second
      investor would be used to pay off debt, improve facilities, and to
      buy 30 percent of the company, Phan said. At the end of the deal,
      then, the company would be 55% owned by China Infohighway, 30% by
      the second investor, and 15% by Hartcourt.
      Phan would not name the potential second investor, except to say it
      is "a very big and reputable investment banking firm" which runs a
      fund that specializes in direct investments in China. The fund, he
      said, is run out of a Chicago office and has US$1.6 billion in
      assets, of which US$700 million is already invested in China.
      Mission Accomplished
      In his April 30 letter to investors, Phan explained that Hartcourt
      had been reorganized last fall to create two companies. One of them,
      Hartcourt, is "now just a shell with approximately $10 million in
      marketable securities and an investment in a Chinese pen factory."
      The pen factory, Xin Hui, is in Guangdong province and is worth $11
      million, Phan said.
      The second company resulting from the reorganization is Enova, which
      manufactures environmental clean-up equipment including vapor
      extraction pumps and landfill conveyors.
      "We remain faithful to our passion and mission of environmental
      clean-up," Phan wrote.
      As for the plan to buy China Infohighway, he added: "We created an
      internet company to satisfy short-term shareholder demand. Upon
      completion of such merger, present board members will resign,
      shareholders will reap a short-term windfall, and the mission is
      accomplished."
      To reach Douglas C. McGill:
      dmcgill@chinaonline.com
      See related article(s):
      Hartcourt to Buy 90% of Chinese ISP in First Deal of its Kind




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      schrieb am 07.12.99 16:30:17
      Beitrag Nr. 3 ()
      hinaOnline - Industry News - Information Technology - Hartcourt to Buy 90% of Chinese ISP in First Deal of Its Kind
















      Hartcourt to Buy 90% of Chinese ISP in First Deal of Its Kind
      By William J. McMahon
      ChinaOnline Reporter
      (3/24/1999) The Hartcourt Companies Inc., a California-based holding
      company, announced yesterday it will acquire a 90% share in China
      Infohighway Communications (CIH), marking the first merger of a
      foreign company with a Chinese Internet service provider (ISP).
      The biggest problem facing China`s ISPs has been a lack of capital.
      Official estimates are that over RMB 1 billion (US$120 million) is
      needed to lay the cables, buy the equipment, and train the personnel
      to build the country`s Internet networks.
      If financing is successfully secured, the Hartcourt- China
      Infohighway deal could change the capital drought by opening the
      door to foreign investment.
      China currently has 2.1 million Internet users, according to the
      latest government figures, a small number relative to the country`s
      1.2 billion population. But the number of Internet subscribers has
      nearly doubled in six months, and forecasts have 10 million people
      online by the year 2000, especially if the county`s Internet
      equipment infrastructure is upgraded.
      The closing of Hartcourt- China Infohighway deal is subject to two
      conditions: an independent valuation of CIH in excess of $80
      million, and the arrangement by Hartcourt of US$30 million in
      financing for expansion and repayment of CIH liabilities.
      Hartcourt hopes to raise the $30 million before June 30, according
      to Dr. Alan Phan, president of Hartcourt.
      Technology problems have also hindered the development of ISPs in
      China. Access speeds are far slower in China than in developed
      countries; what takes only a few seconds to access in other
      countries can take over 10 minutes in China.
      One of the main reasons for the technology problems is a lack of
      capital for infrastructure construction. Up to 80% of a Chinese
      ISP`s operating income goes to pay connection charges, compared to
      5% for ISPs in the United States. Such a revenue drain is expected
      to change this year, however, as China Telecom, the state-run
      telecom monopoly, initiates reforms. In January, China Telecom cut
      Internet access fees in response to widespread user complaints over
      the high fees.
      China Infohighway was formed two years ago. It is licensed to
      provide Internet services in 21 cities in China and owns the
      exclusive right to provide commercial Internet services in these
      cities.
      Currently, CIH has about 100,000 subscribers, and last year it
      received $16 million in revenue. In addition to access services, CIH
      operates two Chinese language web sites: a search engine, ``China
      Info Resources Online,`` and an online database of Chinese history
      and culture, ``China on the Net.``
      CIH plans to increase the number of subscribers to 500,000 within
      three years and retain its 30-year exclusive commercial ISP license.

      Hartcourt will have its wholly owned subsidiary, AsiaNet, take over
      management of CIH`s Internet infrastructure and operations, as well
      as assume responsibility for future development.
      ``Subject to our ability to commit the necessary resources and
      depending on the group`s ability to market and attract a high
      percentage of customers," said Phan, "the Chinese joint venture can
      buy out the government`s position and effectively convert the
      venture into a privately owned company and become Asia`s largest
      Internet provider.``
      The Hartcourt Companies (OTC:HRCT) focuses on high tech businesses,
      with an interest in developing markets in Asia.
      To contact William J. McMahon:
      P: (312) 335-8881
      F: (312) 335-9299
      E: bmcmahon@chinaonline.com
      See related article(s):
      Chinese Internet Service Providers Lack Connections
      Statistical Report on Internet Development in China
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      schrieb am 07.12.99 16:30:42
      Beitrag Nr. 4 ()
      ChinaOnline - Industry News - Information Technology - China Infohighway In No Rush for Overseas Investment
















      China Infohighway In No Rush for Overseas Investment
      (7/15/99) China Infohighway, a internet service provider (ISP) and
      internet content provider (ICP), says it is no hurry to gain foreign
      investment, the June 22 Zhongguo Qiye Bao (China Enterprises News)
      reported.
      In March, Hartcourt Companies Inc., a California-based holding
      company, caused a stir when it announced it would acquire a 90%
      stake in China Infohighway. If true, Hartcourt would have been the
      first foreign firm to merge with a Chinese ISP.
      Han Xu, the executive director of China Infohighway, said his
      company is not in an "urgent" need for foreign funds. A recent round
      of funding from Xingfa Group, a subordinate organisation of China’s
      State Council, and which made Xingfa majority stockholder in China
      Infohighway, has pushed back any needs.
      Han said Hartcourt has in fact no substantive "touch with the
      administrative structure of the company." Downplaying the
      controversy, Han added that many people have expressed interest in
      investing in China Infohighway.
      Han, however, did not rule out ever taking on a foreign partner in
      the future. His only requirement for a co-operative partner was a
      willingness to make a "considerable contribution" to the development
      of the company.
      Infohighway reports that it has about 100,000 registered users in
      mainland China. Jiang Shaoming, consultant to the chairman of China
      Infohighway, said the company’s 1998 income was US$3.02 million, up
      from US$1.2 million in1997. He believes the company will see a 10%
      increase on revenue this year.
      Jiang said the registered capital of China Infohighway is US$14.5
      million, and its invested capital is US$30.24 million. Income and
      expenses have so far been "balanced."
      Han says that the company works hard to develop the market and
      places great emphasis on the research and development, on which the
      annual investment amounts to no less than USD1.2 million (RMB10
      million), which is much more than in the early period of the
      company.
      For the year, China Infohighway’s main goals are to build a strong
      brand name, and to develop advertising channels on the internet. In
      the future the company hopes to get into e-commerce.
      The site averages one million hits per day via its eight nodes, with
      each node averaging 50,000 to 100,000 hits.
      See related article(s):
      Hartcourt Makes a Troubled Bid for China Infohighway
      Hartcourt to Buy 90% of Chinese ISP in First Deal of Its Kind




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      schrieb am 07.12.99 16:31:50
      Beitrag Nr. 5 ()
      So jetzt soll sich jeder selber gedanken machen, ich für meinen Teil denke, dass es do dchlecht wie einige sagen nicht aussieht.

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      schrieb am 07.12.99 16:47:21
      Beitrag Nr. 6 ()
      Buster,ich denke du bemerkst selbst,was jene Basher vorhaben,und das schlimme ist,daß sie dabei tatsächlich eine Verunsicherung erzeugen,die nun einmal nicht berechtigt ist.
      Meist tauchen jene Basher dann auf,wenn neue News/Akquisitionen anstehen.
      Man will durch die Verunsicherung der Anleger den Kurs kurzfristig drücken,um selbst zu profitieren,was hier teilweise geschieht,müßte jedem zu denken geben!!!
      Hier wird mit der Angst der Anleger gespielt,ich kann nur hoffen das man sich nicht von cyperhyper`s verunsichern läßt und das endlich einmal wieder sachlich diskutiert wird.
      HRCT ist und bleibt ein Unternehmen mit hervorragender Zukunft.
      Die Beweise werden in den folgenden Wochen und Monaten folgen,und auch dem letzten Basher die Grundlagen nehmen.


      Mit freundlichen Grüßen

      NETMAN
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      schrieb am 07.12.99 16:56:11
      Beitrag Nr. 7 ()
      ist irgendwem schonmal aufgefallen, daß das ne olle kammele ist?

      heute 5/12/99 zu lesen mag ja zunächst nach aktualität aussehen.

      ist aber engl. datum, also 12. Mai!

      wenn das also wirklich schwerwiegend wäre, hätte das doch schon viel früher gefunden und diskutiert werden können. v.a. im rb-board. da sind nämlich nicht wenige dabei, die durchaus wissen, wie man dd betreibt.
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      schrieb am 07.12.99 17:00:04
      Beitrag Nr. 8 ()
      Richtig,der Artikel ist über ein halbes Jahr alt.
      Aber etwas anderes hat unser Basher cyperhyper=georgina nicht finden können.
      Kindergartenniveau halt,no comment!

      NETMAN
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      schrieb am 07.12.99 17:07:54
      Beitrag Nr. 9 ()
      Viele Kritiker scheinen zu vergessen, dass mit Schwartz bereits ein Risikokaptialgeber mit im Boot sitzt. Und wenn ich mich nicht irre, bauen Beteiligungsprofis ihre Investments nicht auf Sand, zumindest muss hier festgehalten werden, dass deren Nachforschungen zumindest mehr zu trauen ist, als irgendwelche Postern auf irgendwelchen Boards, die zwar Unstimmigkeiten aufdecken, aber dazu keine Begruendungen liefern.
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      schrieb am 07.12.99 17:14:37
      Beitrag Nr. 10 ()
      leute,

      mittlerweile bin ich mehr als stinksauer, wird demnächst phan noch vorgeworfen er sei homophil oder was???

      es ist ja nicht mehr zum aushalten!!!

      echt kranke geister! mir fehlen mittlerweile wirklich die worte wie hrct durch den schlamm gezogen wird und stehts unter dem dem mantel: "als interssierter anleger muß man auch darüber sprechen dürfen..." -
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      schrieb am 07.12.99 17:17:32
      Beitrag Nr. 11 ()
      Wer verkaufen will soll verkaufen, ich bleibe investiert.
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      schrieb am 07.12.99 17:50:15
      Beitrag Nr. 12 ()
      Ich möchte erst einmal allen danken,die sachlich und intelligent an einer Diskussion interessiert sind.
      In US-Boards werden Personen wie Cyper...in der Luft zerrissen.
      Aber ich glaube der Großteil der Anleger weiß inzwischen, wie er jene Artikel zu bewerten hat.
      Wer jetzt die Ruhe bewahrt,wird die Früchte seiner Geduld bald ernten,aber wer zweifelt soll bitteschön verkaufen.
      Ich denke der Kursverlauf und die Umsätze der letzten Wochen sprechen für sich und für gut informierte Anleger.

      Mit freundl. Grüßen

      Netman


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