Globale Erwärmung durch Treibhauseffekt - nur ein Mythos der Linken? (Seite 4593)

[lemoncurry]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 37.187.249 von mouse_potato am 15.05.09 18:31:38

Ist ja superseriös. Die Rede des CEO eines Erdöl- und Erdgaskonzerns.

QUESTAR CORPORATION
Questar Corporation is a natural gas-focused energy company with four major lines of business conducted through three principal subsidiaries — Questar Market Resources (gas and oil exploration, development and production; gas gathering and processing); Questar Pipeline (interstate gas transportation and storage); and Questar Gas (retail gas distribution).

http://www.questar.com/about_us/profile/overview.html

Da haben schon ganz andere CEOs vertrauenswürdige Reden gehalten:

Philip Morris CEO Tells Pregnant Moms Smoking is Safe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpwcF3Malj8

[mouse_potato]

Energy Myths and Realities

Keith O. Rattie
Chairman, President and CEO
Questar Corporation
Utah Valley University
April 2, 2009


Now, the “consensus” back in the mid-1970s was that America and the world were running out of oil. Ironically, some in the media were also claiming a scientific consensus that the planet was cooling, fossil fuels could be to blame, and we were all going to freeze to death unless we kicked our fossil-fuel habit. We were told we needed to find alternatives to oil – fast. That task, we were told, was too important to leave to markets, so government needed to intervene with massive taxpayer subsidies for otherwise uneconomic forms of energy. That thinking led to the now infamous 1977 National Energy Plan, an experiment with central planning that failed miserably. Fast-forward to today, and: déjà vu. This time the fear is not so much that we‟re running out of oil, but that we‟re running out of time – the earth is getting hotter, humans are to blame, and we‟re all doomed if we don‟t stop using fossil fuels – fast. Once again we‟re being told that the job is too important to be left to markets.

Well, the doomsters of the 1970s turned out to be remarkably wrong. My bet is that today‟s doomsters will be proven wrong....


http://www.questar.com/news/2009_news/UVUSpeech.pdf

[for4zim]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 37.180.702 von Kaperfahrer am 15.05.09 06:45:09

Ich habe nicht den Eindruck, daß Du längere Texte verstehst.

[rv_2011]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 37.185.815 von Gilhaney am 15.05.09 16:20:42

Dieses Methan wäre dann aber eine Folge der CO2-Emissionen - gibt also für Kaperfahrer nichts her.

[Gilhaney]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 37.185.594 von rv_2011 am 15.05.09 16:00:33

Tja - die Geschichte mit dem Methaneis...

Da können die Milchwirtschaftler hantieren wie sie wollen, gegen das Methanhydrat in den Ozeanen und das Metha in der Taiga ist das alles vermutlich nur ein Pups, wenn sich diese irgendwann auflösen.


Gruß
Gilhaney



hier noch´n link

http://www.wbgu.de/wbgu_sn2006/wbgu_sn2006_voll_6.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">http://www.wbgu.de/wbgu_sn2006/wbgu_sn2006_voll_6.html

[rv_2011]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 37.185.594 von rv_2011 am 15.05.09 16:00:33

Noch etwas:

Methan ist in der Atmosphäre kurzlebig (10-12 Jahre) - anders als CO2 (> 100 Jahre). Ein Rückgang der Methan-Emissionen führt mit geringer Verzögerung zu einem Rückgang der Konzentration.

[rv_2011]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 37.184.534 von Gilhaney am 15.05.09 14:31:59

Tatsächlich stagnieren die Methan-Emissionen ja. Das kommt u.a. durch weniger Lecks bei der Erdgasproduktion, die Gründe sind aber nicht ganz klar.

Für bedenklicher als die direkten anthropogenen Emissionen sehe ich die möglichen Gefahren durch Ausgasen der großen Methanhydrat-Lager in Folge der Erwärmung.

[Gilhaney]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 37.183.901 von rv_2011 am 15.05.09 13:24:09

Hallo rv


wobei die Gefährdung durch Methan viel direkter ist, als hier so oft dargestellt wird. Hier nur ein Beispiel für die direkte Bedrohung durch Methan die man nicht leichtfertig verharmlosen sollte:




1995 was...


A bad year for:

Pigs, seventy-two of whom forced a South African Airways plane to make an emergency landing after the pigs' flatulence, urine and body heat activated the fire alarm. Fifteen prize stud pigs were asphyxiated by halon gas from the automatic extinguishers


William Hartston

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/1995-was-1527017.htm…" target="_blank" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/1995-was-1527017.htm…




GAS-PASSING PIGS FORCE CROWDED AIRLINER TO LAND!
LONDON, ENGLAND


The pilot of a crowded passenger jet made an emergency landing when the plane's fire alarms sounded, then discovered that the alarms had been triggered by 72 prize pigs in the cargo hold -- all passing gas at the same time!
"All the heat and methane gas generated by the pigs' flatulence was enough to activate the alarms and signal an emergency," said a somber South African Airways spokesman.
And perturbed passengers aboard the flight from London to Johannesburg say the gas passed by all those airy oinkers was enough to activate their alarms as well.
"The minute I got a load of that smell, I knew somebody or something had had way too much to eat," recalled flabbergasted British businessman Thomas Moss.
"Really, it was enough to knock you out of your seat. So when the pilot announced we were turning back, everybody on the plane breathed a giant sigh of relief -- and I think that was the first time any of us had breathed since the jet took off."

This particular pig tale began when airline officials loaded the blowhard hogs aboard the jet for a cheduled 11-hour flight - never dreaming how much damage 72 rootin' and tootin' porkers could do to air quality aboard the jam-packed plane.
"The breeder wanted to fly the pigs on a passenger flight because that plane was flying directly to South Africa," said an embarrassed airline spokesman. "He thought that would be less traumatic for the animals than putting them on a freighter flight, which would have stopped in several cities en route."
But the plane was barely in the air before the porkers' penchant for pooting had the 305 human passengers aboard squirming in their seats.

"Those pigs were down there eating and passing gas, eating and passing gas, and it didn't take long before that smell came seeping up into the passenger compartment," said amused tourist Teresa Nunez. "Nobody had taken into account the fact that pigs are very flatulent animals."
But just minutes after takeoff, the less-than-refined swine had raised such a stink that the cockpit fire alarms sounded, forcing the panic-stricken pilot to make an emergency landing in London.
"I was never so glad to be back on the ground in my entire life," laughed relieved Teresa, 37. "When you're going to be stuck on a plane for 11 hours, you can only hope your fellow passengers are little more polite than those pigs -- and a little less gassy."
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http://mariah.stonemarche.org/favlinks/pigs07.htm

[rv_2011]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 37.183.791 von TomTrader am 15.05.09 13:13:17

Warum beschäftigen die Energiekonzerne Energieberater?

Das ist Teil der PR.

[rv_2011]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 37.183.672 von Gilhaney am 15.05.09 13:01:41

Ich sehe auch, dass Methan (und der in einigen Ländern exzessive Verzehr von Wiederkäuern) ein Problem ist.
Allerdings stagniert der Methanausstoß - im Gegensatz zum CO2-Ausstoß. Der Anteil am anthropogenen Treibhauseffekt sinkt:



Warum hat Kaperfahrer nur im Sinne, vom CO2 abzulenken?