CARGOLIFTER: Gedankenspiele von Boeing zum Thema ``Lighter-Than-Air``-Technologie - 500 Beiträge pro Seite

[Ilias]

gepostet von cruft im Thread < Cargolifter: Hilfe, ich verliere die Nerven! am 31.01.01 15:39:40 >

Scheint wirklich so zu sein, das die ``Lighter-Than-Air-``Technologie jetzt auch langsam von den Amerikaner entdeckt wird.
Wenn nun auch Boeing sich darüber Gedanken macht, was werden dann wohl die großen europäischen Luft-und-Raumfahrtunternehmen
dann wohl machen ???

m.f.g. Ilias
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"Up, up and away in those beautiful new balloons

Airships could be making a comeback.

Jon Dootson knew that the controversy surrounding the 1937 Hindenberg airship disaster had kept new airship concepts from
getting off the ground for many years.

But Dootson, an industrial engineering manager at Boeing Mesa, Ariz., also knew that advances in lighter-than-air technology now
make it possible for airships to move everything from passengers to aircraft fuselages.

Dootson suggested that Boeing consider this technology under the Chairman`s Innovation Initiative, and he was soon asked to form
the Boeing Lighter-Than-Air Council.

The 22-member volunteer council chaired by Dootson is composed of upper managers, engineers, business development
employees and cargo experts. It is tracking developments in lighter-than-air technology worldwide and assessing the viability of
designs and proposed markets.

The council will consolidate Boeing`s previous efforts in the area and serve as a clearinghouse for other Boeing innovators who are
looking into lighter-than-air vehicles.

There has been a recent upsurge in lighter-than-air technology, with 24 firms worldwide now in the design and testing phases of
building airships.

One major change: Modern airships use helium for lift and buoyancy, instead of the explosive hydrogen that figured in the
Hindenberg disaster.

Dootson cites several potential uses for the lighter-than-air vehicles. "Boeing Wichita (Kan.) has looked at the possibility of using
lighter-than-air vehicles to carry airplane fuselages," Dootson says.

Other reasons that the council is exploring Boeing`s future use of lighter-than-air technology include these:

The new airships are made using stronger, lighter composites and they come in different, sleeker shapes. Several companies
designing lighter-than-air vehicles claim airships have cargo capacities 10 times the payload of a jumbo jet. Lighter-than-air vehicles
have been designed that would use less fuel to fly from Los Angeles to New York than a 747 uses to taxi from the gate to the
runway. Because the new airships are designed to land in open fields or on water, they don`t require airstrips. This means that
emerging economies, such as those in India and China, will be better able to afford them.

For more information about the Lighter-Than-Air Council, e-mail [e-mail] or call 480-891-2919. A Boeing
Lighter-Than-Air Council Web page is in development."
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[Turnaround2000]

Wenn die Boeing Initiative in eine echte Entwicklung übergeht, kann man nur sagen: "hurry up, CL!"

[Der_Bronstein]

Das ist die Bestätigung für mich nachzukaufen. Hoffentlich geht der Kurs nochmal runter bis 8 Euro. Das ganze kann kein Hirngespinst mehr sein (ja, auch das hatte ich vor 1 1/2 Jahren in meiner Rechnung). Das ist was großes, Jungs!

[villalumas]

Was riesengrosses !

Die Rentner sind wieder einmal übermütig, heute abend.

[Hajoseb]

@ villalumas

Na, dann man schnell rauf auf die Mutti, solange es noch geht.

Viel Spaß und vergess dabei nicht den Computer auszuschalten, das lenkt zusehr ab.

[feierlei]

Der Typ weiss ja nicht mal, wie man "Hindenburg" schreibt...

[Ilias]

Interressanter Artikel über ``False Failed Inovations``.

http://www.dtic.mil/doctrine/jel/jfq_pubs/1223.pdf

m.f.g. Ilias

PS: man braucht einen Acrobat Reader !!!

[ottocito]

@Bronstein

ganz deiner Meinung!


@feierlei

die Amis wissen vielleicht nicht, wie man Hindenburg schreibt, oder dass es eine andere Sprache als englisch gibt, aber fuer technologische und oekonomische Entwicklungen haben sie sehr oft ein feines Naeschen!

Und deshalb...klar doch wird er fliegen..... unser Carli
vielhundertfach sogar und hoffentlich nicht unter der Regie von Boeing!!

mfg ottocito

[Ken_meyer]

... wenn da mal Boeing die Rechnung nicht ohne Teegen
gemacht hat; ich fürchte, der wird wieder ganze Wälder
abholzen, um Finanzminister Rumsfeld mit Faxen einzudecken.

(sorry, konnte mal wieder nicht widerstehen )

[Schwarzer1]

Ich glaube die meisten haben schon lange begriffen das
hier nicht Spinner sonder Realisten am Werke sind. Und sich hier eine
Transporttechnologie entwickelt.Vor allem die klefferen
kaufen jetzt günstig und verkaufen später zu höchstpreisen.
Ich meine nicht nur CL auch seine Mitbewerber.Warum wird
CL so schlecht geredet????? Natürlich um sehr billig an
Anteile zu gelangen.Das Risiko ist jedemfall 100 mal
geringer jetzt als vor 3 Jahren.

Ich kann langfristig nur zuraten im Depot "Leicher als Luft
-technologie" überzugewichten

[Ilias]

http://www.unibw-muenchen.de/campus/LRT14/Part1/ve-course/le…
http://www.unibw-muenchen.de/campus/LRT14/Part1/ve-course/le…

http://www.pronetz-online.de/portal/HTMLgen/Luft-undRaumfahr…
http://www.rz-kl.fh-kl.de/~schanzen/cargolifter.pdf

False-Failed Innovations
Many military innovations are technology
based, though not all. To achieve an innovation,
an enabling technology must be linked to doctrine
and organizations able to wield new capabilities.
The tank and aircraft carrier were successful
innovations which were based on technology. Efforts
such as the airship never achieved domi-nance.
Still others such as gliders succeeded only
briefly. Then there were innovations such as The myth of the technology tree only looks
toward a narrow set of possibilities, building on
what is in use today rather than considering alter-native
paths such as suitable developments of the
past that were prematurely committed to oblivion.
All too frequently discarded technologies are
ignored. Yet technologies that are inappropriate
in one age have been resurrected through adap-tive
methods and organizations to fill essential re-quirements
at a later time. This process of inno-vation
demolishes the notion that the predictive
linear growth of innovations along a single tech-nological
course is the only road to the future.
To maximize the capacity to exploit new ca-pabilities,
innovators must recognize that past
technology is malleable and may evolve into
something quite different. And there must be a
clear grasp of future requirements. Needs drive
how technology is shaped and used. Only by ana-lyzing
requirements thoroughly and defining
them objectively, unconstrained by narrow think-ing
about how traditionally military capabilities
have been used, can a failed technology become a
false-failed innovation. Look first to needs. Revis-ing
organization and doctrine must follow, then
identifying available technology. Achieving inno-vations,
false-failed or otherwise, frequently re-quires
vision but always calls for hard thinking
that transcends a didactic, linear conception of
how technology becomes capability. JFQ
to achieve an innovation, an enabling
technology must be linked
to doctrine and organizations

[Ilias]

und nocheinmal, weil es so schön ist.

"Up, up and away in those beautiful new balloons

Airships could be making a comeback.

Jon Dootson knew that the controversy surrounding the 1937 Hindenberg airship disaster had kept new airship concepts from
getting off the ground for many years.

But Dootson, an industrial engineering manager at Boeing Mesa, Ariz., also knew that advances in lighter-than-air technology now
make it possible for airships to move everything from passengers to aircraft fuselages.

Dootson suggested that Boeing consider this technology under the Chairman`s Innovation Initiative, and he was soon asked to form
the Boeing Lighter-Than-Air Council.

The 22-member volunteer council chaired by Dootson is composed of upper managers, engineers, business development
employees and cargo experts. It is tracking developments in lighter-than-air technology worldwide and assessing the viability of
designs and proposed markets.

The council will consolidate Boeing`s previous efforts in the area and serve as a clearinghouse for other Boeing innovators who are
looking into lighter-than-air vehicles.

There has been a recent upsurge in lighter-than-air technology, with 24 firms worldwide now in the design and testing phases of
building airships.

One major change: Modern airships use helium for lift and buoyancy, instead of the explosive hydrogen that figured in the
Hindenberg disaster.

Dootson cites several potential uses for the lighter-than-air vehicles. "Boeing Wichita (Kan.) has looked at the possibility of using
lighter-than-air vehicles to carry airplane fuselages," Dootson says.

Other reasons that the council is exploring Boeing`s future use of lighter-than-air technology include these:

The new airships are made using stronger, lighter composites and they come in different, sleeker shapes. Several companies
designing lighter-than-air vehicles claim airships have cargo capacities 10 times the payload of a jumbo jet. Lighter-than-air vehicles
have been designed that would use less fuel to fly from Los Angeles to New York than a 747 uses to taxi from the gate to the
runway. Because the new airships are designed to land in open fields or on water, they don`t require airstrips. This means that
emerging economies, such as those in India and China, will be better able to afford them.

For more information about the Lighter-Than-Air Council, e-mail [e-mail] or call 480-891-2919. A Boeing
Lighter-Than-Air Council Web page is in development."

[Ilias]

@all

kann mir mal jemand verraten, wo der Kurs steht, wenn
Morgen bekannt gegeben WÜRDE (nur reine Annahme), das Boeing sich mit einem Kleckerbetrag von ... Millionen bei CL engagiert?!?

m.f.g. Ilias

PS: und dabei gibt es doch ausser Boeing noch soooo viele andere Interessenten. Aber warten wir mal ab WER zum Zuge kommt.

[svenHamm]

ja, lange müssen wir ja nicht mehr warten,
das Geld ist bald zu Ende.

wer mit WENN und WÜRDE argumentiert,
sollte besser beim Sparbuch bleiben. ;-)

[Ilias]

@svenHamm

war nur eine rein retorische Frage, mehr nicht !!!

und ist es nicht so, das man versucht sich Aktien zuzulegen, die noch eine große Zukunft vor sich haben.

Es gibt bei CL soviele Wenn und Würde oder besser ausgedrückt "Varianten", die eintreten können.
Ich denke es ist es Wert darüber mal nachzudenken, mehr nicht.

m.f.g. Ilias